MOST HATED PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM POLL

I can't decide between Liverpool and Newcastle

Man U, for always, forever and ever. Blues mostly too comedy to be fully hateworthy.

Newcastle likewise.

rafa and carragher wanted me to go with liverpool, but john terry talked me out of it. inspirational leader of men, you know.

k I hate Terry more than any other Prem player.

Heart says Tottenham; head says that's like voting for the Lib Dems.

Arsenal.

The Curse of Christmas refers to a trend where...

WTF has this got to do with anything???

Or we could all just vote Portsmouth for a laugh.

Easiest poll ever.

If anyone other than Newcastle wins this I will be very disappointed with you people.

NV OTM re: Blooz

I mean come on, put aside your petty local rivalries and recognise who the real enemy is here

no way. pompey scum ftw!

What's the point in hating Newcastle?

Are we sposed to be voting for the club/squad/etc as it is now (in which case, Newcastle a *strong* contender), or its general history (in which case I gots no beef with em)

A Pompey landslide would be pretty funny, to be fair

Are we sposed to be voting for the club/squad/etc as it is now (in which case, Newcastle a *strong* contender), or its general history (in which case I gots no beef with em)

The instructions are set out quite clearly above the poll. "The curse of Christmas...."

I think we're voting for the overall package the team, the history, and the fans.

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I do love a good old fashioned crying Geordie tho.

Man U for sure but Arsenal and West Ham come close.

My hatred of Newcastle is because they typify a certain type of fan (Wednesday, Forest, QPR) that us lower-league types have to put up with on a regular basis, people who believe their club is a lot bigger than it actually is.

Plus their team is mainly thugs and crooks managed by a corrupt dude who looks like a slug.

Arsenal win on all three counts still, but there's still a respectable margin between second place West Ham and the rest.

I think I actually hate Reading and Derby less than Spurs right now.

Newcastle have got rid of most of the thugs now haven't they? Admittedly they've bought in Joey Barton which is a bit like selling all your guns to buy a rocket launcher.

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i forgot about fat sam! i was wondering about all the toon hate. barton and fat sam are a tough double act to beat, kinda like bad cop/total c*nt partnership.

Portsmouth?

If we're talking about the Mike Oldfield track, I got no beef with 'em.

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I quite like Newcastle. Fond memories of the Keegan years and their complete lack of threat as a footballing force ever since. I've gone for Spurs out of tradition, but Rafa's beard and Stevie pinhead made it very difficult.

Oh, and I like Fat Sam too.

TCWTB = Martian's secret identity?

-- Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:16 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

The Cunt With The Blog?

*rimshot*

because i don't love any of these teams i don't hate any of them either

but voted Wigan because they are shite and should just give up already (for some reason i have more sympathy for Derby)

I have big ol' sympathy for Wigan because I know the trauma of supporting a football team in a town where all the local business prefer to invest in the rugby team

Easiest poll ever.

Yes. Liverpool.

el-hadji diouf-shaped elephant in room, although I also hold great disdain for birmingham city (irksome little club without a dram of romance to recommend it)

OH SHIT why did i not vote west ham ;_;

it is because i still love curbs (and possibly scotty, but that's more debatable)

Y'know, after the results are in we should really poll the most hated player at the most hated club.

most hated player poll full stop poll would be good, but it's hard to see past eboue, barton or diouf.

I’d say Wigan Athletic because its the club supporter by everyone who is a regular at the pub I frequent in Dorchester and I find them to be annoying. But at the same time, its Wigan Athletic, who really cares?

i really hope people aren't boring and vote for man u and chelsea even though they're clearly more likeable than half the rest of the premiership (man u especially, who i actually support in europe more than any other british club). would understand chelsea winning the poll but again it would be dull, and at least they're providers of entertainment and lolz. what have bolton and birmingham ever really provided except tedium? i suppose birmingham play the (slightly) better football, hence my bolton vote.

spot the bitter addick

another shout for most hated player: michael brown

Eboue? He's made no impression on me whatsoever.

Most hated players: Lampard, Gerrard, Terry. Duh.

‘I’d say Wigan Athletic because its the club supporter by everyone who is a regular at the pub I frequent in Dorchester and I find them to be annoying. But at the same time, its Wigan Athletic, who really cares?’

Trauma?

Most hated players: Lampard, Gerrard, Terry. Duh.

Joe Cole. Divin' greetin'-faced little cunt.

Danny Wallace

Cruel

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gary weasel-faced neville

Chelsea would have been my second choice, but that's a relatively recent thing. As late as 2004 I was cheering when they dumped Arsenal out of Europe.

Questions to the United Haters: when did you start hating United / who do you support / where do you come from?

When I was at school nearly everyone else supported Spurs/Arsenal/West Ham/Liverpool and they just hated each other's clubs. Nobody seemed bothered enough to even have an opinion about United. But that was in the south and United were a bit rubbish for a while. When I went to university up north I was a bit taken aback at just how many people *really* hated United. Not just the local population (which was split three ways between Leeds, Man Utd and Liverpool), but students from all over the north supporting teams like Sheff Wed, Stoke, Burnley, etc. all seemed to absolutely loathe United - and this was when they were still 25+ years without winning the league. I imagine it's got a lot to do with so many people from Stoke, Burnley, etc. supporting Man Utd instead of Stoke, Burnley, etc. At some point in 1993 the whole of the rest of the country seemed to start hating Man United too.

Yeah, that's my reading too. At my (south London/Surrey border) school in the late 80s, it was all about hating Liverpool, or local rivals. United were always presented by the media as this massive club, but it was very hard to understand why, given they'd never been that successful in our lifetimes. So nobody really bothered hating them - they weren't relevant. All the Londoners who supported United were pitied rather than scorned.

But that was my generation in the south. My family are Midlanders and didn't understand why I wanted United to beat Palace in the 90 Cup final.

Then United got successful again and everybody started to hate them.

I think by 93 United had the sort of side and produced the sort of results that indicated their title wasn't gonna be a one-off (which certainly wasn't the case with Leeds the year before)

Also Cantona, Robson, Ince, Keane, Schmeichel, Ferguson... these are people it was easy to dislike.

I always thought of Schmeichel as pretty likeable until he allegedly became the J Terry to Ledley King's Ian Wright, allegedly

Didn't Ian Wright later admitted he'd completely made that up?

I don't remember but it never really stuck TBF

i voted for the Villa, shit on them for they are shite. did no one else here from the West Midlands vote? every Villa fan i've ever met was:

1. a racist
2. a cunt

mind you, times are changing now. kids today, they don't understand how important it is to hate the Villa. you see people walking around Cov city centre, bold as brass, in Villa shirts. in broad daylight! 10 years ago, maybe even 5, they'd have ended up in a ditch somewhere, blood oozing and slowly comingling with with the dank, stagnant soil of our fair city.

I am a nice guy

my post was pitched at being roughly 50% sincere, but on reflection, i'm actually closer to 95% behind what i said.

I have seen Ferg nailbomb three mosques

I just wanted to affirm, that I am a nice guy

It's nearly Christmas

http://images.teamtalk.com/06/10/190/JuanPabloAngel_167874.jpg

Also a nice guy

http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/02/40/Dion_Dublin.jpg

Look at the warmth, the sincerity

About 11 inches of warmth and sincerity, apparently

he made Savage cry

the top 5 teams in this poll are the top 5 teams in the premier league just now.

Tall poppy syndrome

Another damning indictment of just how much the British hate success, and also cunts with bells

Ferg has been on fire today, but finest moment in recent memory probably the following gem from non-league equivalent:

I live with a nice Leeds fan :/

He does break quite a lot of stuff tho

Thinking about it, his attempted arson of Rio Ferdinand's house was probably the pinnacle

-- That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 14:28 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

LouJag: hypeman

That wasn't actually a joke. He's also friends with the guy who baited Phil Neville into dissing Fergie via text by pretending to be Alan Smith. He really is a nice dude though.

Yeah, I didn't think it was a joke, but often the truth is funnier. Keep it up, guys!

Another fun Dio Dublin fact: apparently he sweats like a shower-head

to answer the "how long have you hated manyoo" question, my answer is always. Before even I became aware of the nuances of football loving and just said I was a Liverpool supporter my Dad continuously informed me that they were pretty much the devil (no pun intended), he hated them with a passion, which was weird as he was some odd Fulham/Millwall/Palace hybrid fan (he used to pick which game he'd go to in the sixties that morning)

Dada's usual bollocks on here makes me all the more glad to be a Liverpool fan though.

I still don't understand why I don't hate Everton thoughm maybe it's the Jonesy effect, but nah, they're nowehere compared to...let's see...Manyoo, Chelsea, Portsmouth, possibly Bolton even

I still don't understand why I don't hate Everton though

You don't hate Everton cos you're not a Scouser, Porkpie. I think it may well be the case that Liverpool hatred for Man United exceeds any enmity for Everton even within the city, though. There's a few more layers of loathing there.

Not that Porkpie (or Ronan or Stevie) are like this, but I've met Cockney Reds who thought Everton were based on the Wirral somewhere; we just don't register and probably haven't with any Liverpool fan from outside the area since the mid-'80s. That may change...

The historical shifting of rival teams and most hated has changed a lot duing the premiership era - with so many fans not living in or even coming from the cities of their teams many traditional rivalries really not being felt in the same way. Which raises interesting questions about constructed identity and how it holds true in some respects but not others (Manchester United fans at work that have nothing to say about Manchester City or Leeds but plenty to say about Chelsea)

In a way this already existed with teams with larger catchment areas..growing up in Burnley the main rivalry was with Blackburn of course. Out into the dales and there was a rivalry with Bradford City that really didn't exist in the same way in the town itself - where it was all about Blackburn hatred

The Premiership bandwagon exaggerating further still an already 10-15-20? year process in which the links between a citys team and its fanbase becoming more and more unconnected (increased geographical mobility a factor also)

Michael, you can't get away with using the term 'Cockney Reds' to describe Liverpool supporters

Its already interesting in sports the 'we' being used, the identification process with clubs/business that are far far divorced from the environment which they originally grew from...but that identification with the geographical element removed is fascinating

Sorry, you're right - bit of a lazy catch-all term that, Nasty, and about 15 years out of date. You can propose another one if you like. Home Kounties Kopites?

Guess London is too far away to qualify as Wooly?

Ha, yes - it's dead Woolly down here. Just like the rest of the UK is "Zone 7" to Londoners.

Oh yeah. I'm a complete and utter wool, but then to some reds on some forums, anyone not born within hearing distance of the last orders bell at the Albert is a wool......

I despise Man U, way more than Everton. I have never cared about Everton losing in a huge way, though the CL exit was sort of amusing, but there was a time when Man U's complete ineptitude in Europe was the only sustaining thing in football, eg a team that played Paul Parker vs Barcelona with Ronaldo for Barcelona that time when they lost heavily a decade ago or so.

United losing in Europe has been pretty fulfilling for years now.

Was Ronaldo really playing? That game was in 1994, so he would have been very young. I remember it was 4-0 and I remember Gary Walsh was in goal because of the foreigners rule but I can't remember who was playing for Barcelona. I'm pretty sure they had Stoichkov (sp?) and Romario.

Ronaldo had only just joined PSV when Man U lost 4-0 to Barca. Stoichkov scored two, Romario and Ferrer got the others.

I remember 90 Minutes pointing out that "Hristo Stoichkov and Romario" was an anagram of "O shock horror it is a Vimto"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ08QHezFjg

Manchester City 0

i hate the bandwagon hate from lol big club supporters whenever somebody else gets a crazy rich owner and starts to threaten. also Citeh have a high percentage of my fave PL players in the squad

ya i am ambivalent about them cuz i like mancini and silva and balotelli and i don't think their football is notably poorer than a lot of the shite produced by leading english teams in recent times

i'd guess they would get near the top of this poll now

Cornwall Reds be shook

CHELSEA

LOL Man City bottom of the poll. How times change.

reading upthread to discover i voted for bolton = i disown me

you could still remember City's brief spell in League 1 back then and the Shaun Goater era etc..

Southgate = nice guy, going nowhere

― Tom D., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 17:37 (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Wrong on both counts :(

Celtic fans were big on Rodgers & Hammerstein before all this Merseybeat nonsense :)

― onimo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 11:03 (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nah, Rodgers and Hart, 'tic fans are more discriminating

― Tom D., Thursday, 13 December 2007 11:03 (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

... in 2007 it was Richard and Lorenz, in 2023 it's Brendan and Joe, more's the pity

<3 onimo

they’re all loathsome

Tottenham