British Painitng 1750 1950 Top Ten and why so few ?

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i was reading an article in an art hisotry journal ( a serious one without the pretty pictures) and this historian claimed that there were only ever 10 British Painters between 1750 and 1950 that were worth anything . These Painters were :

Now i am thinking about this and these are the only Brtish painters i know, has there been a dearth of paintign in britian , is this list represtentive ? If it is and if there has been why is that ?

― anthony, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well a step off-canon there were a few pre-raphs knocking around mid-19th c, and a terrific bonkers religious painter called JOHN MARTIN who painted the end of the world a few dozen times, but basically we were saving our energy so as to invent hip-hop

― mark s, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey did anyone else see the BBC Living With The Enemy episode where the trad. artists lived with the conceptual artits? I watched it last night it was fantastic. "worth anything" meaning what exactly?

― ducklingmonster, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

anthony has a holman hunt he's trying to flog

― mark s, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bacon heh heh.

― Josh, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bacon did most of is great work post 1950.

― anthony, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If worth anything means celebrity - David Hockney, Bridget Riley. Lists are easy to criticise and bold to make. I wouldn't dare. Death of painting sounds exciting.

― ducklingmonster, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Who shot painting?

― ducklingmonster, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah,British Painting Post 1950 has been blossomed (Hockney,Prince,Riely,Bacon et.al) by important i mean cannonical.

― anthony, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Your historian's list of 10 is too limited.He/she seems either too fussy (or too grumpy).

Pre-Raphaelite painters not in your list & worth checking out:

Edward Burne-Jones (1833-1898)
William Holman Hunt (1827-1910)
John Everett Millais (1829-1896)
Arthur Hughes (1832-1915)
Dante Gabriel Rossetti (1828-1882)

A little earlier, try Samuel Palmer (1805-1881)

― David, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I presume that LS Lowry is too parochial, downbeat, folksy and, yikes, popular to be considered as a serious Britartist.

Also on a list, though presumably not in the premier league would be Augustus Johns, Winifred Knights and John Piper.

― Billy Dods, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lowry is also believed to have had the same mental condition that I have, which may or may not have influenced his standing.

John Piper made a British Transport Film in 1959 and is therefore a MAJOR HISTORICAL FIGURE

― Robin Carmody, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was a bit harsh labelling Piper second division. His work strides the divide between classical landscape painting and abstraction which worked particularly well in his cataloguing of the chaos of WW2.

Important also for his work in other materials/mediums esp glass but also fabrics too (In fact there's a set of curtains he designed on ebay just now).

― Billy Dods, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Really, even the high-toned journals are doing SPIN-style lists of those who "matter"? What happened to Rosetti's reputation?

― Curt, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i know i know they should really start doing HOT n' NOT lists

― ducklingmonster, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

twenty-one years pass...

Hey did anyone else see the BBC Living With The Enemy episode where the trad. artists lived with the conceptual artits? I watched it last night it was fantastic.

This sounds like amazing television and seems to have been memory holed from the internet in favour of some shitty radio thing with Giles Brandeth.

― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

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