Dead Pool '08

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Jaymc is the unofficial moderator of this thread of threads, but I thought that I would go ahead and get an early start:

Yogi Berra
Ernest Borgnine
Fidel Castro
Walter Cronkite
Kirk Douglas
B.B. King
Jerry Lewis
Les Paul
Britney Spears
Dr. Ruth Westheimer

Have I won '07 yet?

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 31 December 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Damn the bags under your eyes, I was going to start this thread tomorrow!

Dick Clark
Fidel Castro
Ariel Sharon
Hosni Mubarak
B.B. King
Britney Spears
Ronnie Biggs
Elizabeth Edwards :-((((
Suzanne Pleshette
Leontyne Price

Rock Hardy, Monday, 31 December 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I still insist that the deadline is tonight. This getting the month of January "free" still irks me.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 31 December 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I'll take full advantage of it.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 31 December 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Bo Diddley
Carol Channing

sexyDancer, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

woah ... Carol Channing is 1/4 black?

sexyDancer, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like getting the whole month of January free. But let's give people a week to make their picks, at which point I'll put 'em all in my spreadsheet and any changes after that will be void.

jaymc, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Meant to add an "either" at the end of that first sentence.

jaymc, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

So, deadline January 7.

jaymc, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

I thought Bo Diddley had already died. There'll be adjustments on my list.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Britney Spears
Amy Winehouse
Robbie Williams
Arthur C Clarke
ZsaZsa Gabor
Estelle Getty
Vera Lynn
Norman Wisdom
Bo Diddley
Kirk Douglas

limón, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Anna Wing
Liz Dawn
Heather Mills
Nicholas Parsons
Maggie Thatcher
Jean-Paul Belmondo
Jackie Stallone
Olivia de Havilland
Rupert Murdoch
Barbara Bush

JTS, Monday, 31 December 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Muhammed Ali
Ian Brady
Larry Hagman
Doris Day
Charlton Heston
Ian Huntley
Margaret Thatcher
Ariel Sharon
Elizabeth Taylor
Russell Watson

(sorry, my internet was broken yesterday)

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

i was gonna say estelle getty too...

estelle getty
estelle parsons
kenneth anger
mort sahl
tuli kupferberg
i.m. pei
army archerd
william f. buckley
pierre boulez
hal holbrook

get bent, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

I don't suppose anyone had Kevin Greening on their list last year, did they?

DavidM, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

MaN, estelle getty was on my list for five years. I'm convinced that she ain't never gonna die.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

this will be a black year for white Americans:

Ray Bradbury
Jean Shepard
Kitty Wells
R. Lee Ermey
Tom Bosley
Marion Ross
W. Mark Felt
Walter Mondale
Henry Kissinger
Andrew Wyeth

hawth, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

Chuck Berry
George H. W. Bush
Queen Elizabeth II
Osama Bin Laden
Fidel Castro
Whitey Ford
Angela Lansbury
Hugh Hefner
Mel Brooks
Leslie Nielsen

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

So when's shakey going to post his list?

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

Bob Barker
Henry Kissinger
Pete Doherty
Margaret Thatcher
Fidel Castro
Richard Petty
Hugh Hefner
Prince Philip (QEII's hubby)
Robert Duvall
Barbara Bush (elder)

milo z, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

Dirk Benedict
Dick Button
Earl Butz
Dick Cheney
Dick Clark
Andy Dick
Dick Gregory
Dick Hyman
Dick Martin
Dick Van Patten

gershy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

I've never done this, and I always find it a little too morbid, but why not:

Garry Kasparov
Bill Cosby
Tina Turner
Phyllis Diller
Jonathon Taylor Thomas
Jackée Harry
John Searle
Pauline Oliveros
Jeanne-Claude (as in, Christo and)
Betty White

Casuistry, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:09 (seventeen years ago)

yeah okay, I'm a rookie too, but here goes:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Pope Benedict XVI
Jimmy Carter
Günter Grass
Courtney Love
Pervez Musharraf
Sumner Redstone
William Safire
J.D. Salinger
Sly Stone

Clay, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:32 (seventeen years ago)

Robert Mugabe
Joan Rivers
Ken Dodd
Pete Doherty
Michael Parkinson
David Attenborough
Gary Coleman
Michael Jackson (suicide)
Bush (assassination)
John Howard (malaise)

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:38 (seventeen years ago)

(my first too)

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:38 (seventeen years ago)

Lennie Bennett
Louis Farrakhan
Gene Gene the Dancing Machine
Lex Luger
"Chemical" Ali Hassan al-Majid
Bobby Murcer
Suzanne Pleshette
King Sihanouk of Cambodia
Ariel Sharon
Russell Watson

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 3 January 2008 09:47 (seventeen years ago)

SUBSTITUTION:

Lennie Bennett
Louis Farrakhan
Lex Luger
"Chemical" Ali Hassan al-Majid
Bobby Murcer
Suzanne Pleshette
King Sihanouk of Cambodia
Ariel Sharon
Sir Cyril Smith
Russell Watson

Dom Passantino, Friday, 4 January 2008 23:44 (seventeen years ago)

Britney Spears

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 January 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

Larry King
Owen Wilson
Barack Obama
Jimmy Page
Liz Taylor
Jimmy Scott
Pervez Musharraf
Manoel de Oliveira
Jimmy Hill
Jean Luc Godard =(

admrl, Saturday, 5 January 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

why not switch Jimmy Page for Alain Resnais =(

admrl, Saturday, 5 January 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

jimmy hill! so true. (bobby robson aint never dying is he?)

r|t|c, Saturday, 5 January 2008 00:41 (seventeen years ago)

I forgot George Steinbrenner. Ain't no way he'll make it to '09.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:34 (seventeen years ago)

can we have a clarification on the rules again - i think you get points for the # of years below 100 of the dededent, right? not the total # of dead people on your list (which is how rotten.com tallies its results). in other words, putting 99 year old Manoel de Oliveira on yer list is hardly worth it.

gershy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:42 (seventeen years ago)

Well this isn't morbid at all.

The Reverend, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:43 (seventeen years ago)

jaymc, what's the ruling on people who aren't on the rotten.com deadpool site? Dom has three names that aren't listed there.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

Estelle Getty
Barack Obama
Estelle Getty
Arthur C. Clarke
Keith Richards
Margaret Thatcher
Ariel Sharon
Lee Kuan Yew
Robert Smith
Pete Doherty

robertwolf8080, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

Dick Cheney
Dick Morris
Britney Spears
Nancy Reagan
Paris Hilton
Lara Flynn Boyle
Hayley Barbour
Margot Kidder
O.J. Simpson
Kirstie Alley

Sara R-C, Saturday, 5 January 2008 06:22 (seventeen years ago)

Its a little disturbing to see more than one Obama mention.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 5 January 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

Bob Hawke
Britney Spears
Margaret Thatcher
Nicholas Parsons
Rolf Harris
Pete Seeger
Arthur Morris
Connie Francis
Amrosi
Imam Samudra

(also first time. Yes there is an element of wish-projection with some of the choices, esp the first four and last two.)

Fred Nerk, Saturday, 5 January 2008 06:36 (seventeen years ago)

jaymc, what's the ruling on people who aren't on the rotten.com deadpool site? Dom has three names that aren't listed there.

I'd really prefer it if they were on Rotten.com, but since Pleasant Plains started this thread and didn't mention it, I'm not sure I can do anything about it. Although if Dom or anyone else (I haven't created deadpool08.xls yet, so I don't know if others have picked questionably famous people, too) could be persuaded to change their picks, that'd be cool.

jaymc, Saturday, 5 January 2008 06:55 (seventeen years ago)

Is there a rule about picking people with known terminal illnesses? (not that I had anyone in mind, I just wondered).

Trayce, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:05 (seventeen years ago)

The rule for terminal illnesses is "that's a good pick."

Fred Nerk has a few that aren't on the Rotten.com list either. I went ahead and registered my list here and made some changes:

Elizabeth Edwards
Bo Diddley
Ronnie Biggs
Fidel Castro
BB King
Suzanne Pleshette
Leontyne Price
Ariel Sharon
Britney Spears
Elizabeth Taylor

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:13 (seventeen years ago)

k so my updated list then:

Robert Mugabe
Joan Rivers
Ken Dodd
Pete Doherty
Britney Spears
David Attenborough
Gary Coleman
Michael Jackson (suicide)
Bush (assassination)
John Howard (malaise)

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:16 (seventeen years ago)

You used to be able to ask rotten.com to add people if you wanted, I guess you still can if you want British people who don't register highly enough on American radar to warrant a mention. We still doing the 100 minus age at death points scoring though?

ailsa, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:26 (seventeen years ago)

Yes we are. Forgot to mention that.

jaymc, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:30 (seventeen years ago)

I've done mine here:

http://deadpool.rotten.com/profiles/38/01/68799.html

ailsa, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:33 (seventeen years ago)

here's mine. rotten didn't have tuli kupferberg so i subbed in pierre cardin.

http://deadpool.rotten.com/profiles/39/02/68800.html

get bent, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:40 (seventeen years ago)

John Howard (malaise)

Hahaha :)

Trayce, Saturday, 5 January 2008 07:44 (seventeen years ago)

should we all be posting our links to make it easier for you, jaymc?
here's mine
http://deadpool.rotten.com/profiles/30/04/68556.html

gershy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 08:24 (seventeen years ago)

Here's my profile:

http://deadpool.rotten.com/profiles/42/05/68803.html

And the list in plain writing, just in case:

1. Dave Brubeck
2. Fidel Castro
3. Jack Chick
4. Ravi Shankar
5. Michael Jackson
6. Jerry Lewis
7. Robert Mugabe
8. Ariel Sharon
9. Doris Day
10. Charlie Watts

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 January 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

I had toyed with picking Gazza last year, but didn't. Thought he was back on track again by the turn of the year, so didn't bother with him this year.

ailsa, Monday, 2 June 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

Nobody picked YSL?

Madchen picked him ... last year.

jaymc, Monday, 2 June 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

MaN, estelle getty was on my list for five years. I'm convinced that she ain't never gonna die.

-- Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, January 1, 2008 12:41 PM (Tuesday, January 1, 2008 12:41 PM) Bookmark Link

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

no one's called Teddy Kennedy yet...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

And when we die and float away
Into the night, the Milky Way
You'll hear me call, as we ascend
I'll see you there, then once again
Thank you for being a friend

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

You guys could've had an extra point if she'd hung around for another three days.

Rock Hardy 65 (Suzanne Pleshette, Suharto, Bo Diddley)
jaymc 58 (Suharto, Charlton Heston, Sydney Pollack)
limon 47 (Arthur C. Clarke, Bo Diddley, Estelle Getty)
get bent 34 (William F. Buckley, Estelle Getty)
Dom Passantino 30 (Suzanne Pleshette)
robertwolf8080 26 (Arthur C. Clarke, Estelle Getty)
Kenan 25 (Roy Scheider)
todd swiss 21 (Bo Diddley)
kingfish 19 (Harvey Korman)
ailsa 17 (Charlton Heston)
gershy 16 (Earl Butz, Dick Martin)

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

i'm going to wear my golden girls t-shirt today. :-(

get bent, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

Lennie Bennett
Louis Farrakhan
Lex Luger
"Chemical" Ali Hassan al-Majid
Bobby Murcer
Suzanne Pleshette
King Sihanouk of Cambodia
Ariel Sharon
Sir Cyril Smith
Russell Watson

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, 4 January 2008 23:44 (6 months ago) Bookmark Link

Another 38 points for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Murcer

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

holy hell how would you pick bobby murcer?

G00blar, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

Where's that ILX thread that starts off with "Dom Passantino has a bizarrely high knowledge of American culture"?

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

I picked the wrong Golden Girl, even.

Casuistry, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

You guys could've had an extra point if she'd hung around for another three days.

One fewer point, surely?

Casuistry, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

Oh right. I don't know what I was thinking.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

Where's that ILX thread that starts off with "Dom Passantino has a bizarrely high knowledge of American culture"?

More like Dom Passantino is good at googling "celebrities with cancer."

Murcer, who had been suffering from headaches and a lack of energy according to the New York Daily News, was diagnosed with a brain tumor on Christmas Eve, 2006, and underwent surgery on December 28, 2006, at the The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. On January 10, 2007, it was announced that the tumor was malignant.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

right

G00blar, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

Sorted. Anyone else I miss?

Dom Passantino 68 (Suzanne Pleshette, Bobby Murcer)
Rock Hardy 65 (Suzanne Pleshette, Suharto, Bo Diddley)
jaymc 58 (Suharto, Charlton Heston, Sydney Pollack)
limon 47 (Arthur C. Clarke, Bo Diddley, Estelle Getty)
get bent 34 (William F. Buckley, Estelle Getty)
robertwolf8080 26 (Arthur C. Clarke, Estelle Getty)
Kenan 25 (Roy Scheider)
todd swiss 21 (Bo Diddley)
kingfish 19 (Harvey Korman)
ailsa 17 (Charlton Heston)
gershy 16 (Earl Butz, Dick Martin)

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

(Just went through the .xls. It looks like everyone else is still alive. For now.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

ok that's chilling

darraghmac, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

YEAH

Do I get extra points because I accidentally put her down twice

robertwolf8080, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

Haha. No.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

no one's called Teddy Kennedy yet...?

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:26 PM (Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:26 PM) Bookmark Link

Even he didn't know he was sick back in January.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Really surprised no one had Paul Newman.

jaymc, Monday, 29 September 2008 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

His cancer was a big surprise to me. He was on my list of people to include next year if he made it that long.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Monday, 29 September 2008 02:56 (seventeen years ago)

I think maybe someone picked him last year? I was out of town this weekend, and when I saw the news on CNN, one of my first thoughts was "Someone's getting points for this." Yes, I know.

jaymc, Monday, 29 September 2008 03:35 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

anybody got ron jeremy? i saw dude on tv & he looks half dead already

some dude'n'em (and what), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

More so than usual?

⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

No one put him on their '08 list.

jaymc, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

i can't believe Salinger hasn't died yet.

akm, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

None of mine are dead! Even Ken Dodd is still kicking on.

I'm Richard (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Of all the well loved English actresses I could have picked... Kathy bloody Staff totally went over my head. Not that she would have helped me now. Next time I'm going to have to trawl the cast of "Last of the Summer Wine" and also anyone who has picked up a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Oscars in the last five years.

JTS, Sunday, 14 December 2008 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

Update:

Dom Passantino 68 (Suzanne Pleshette, Bobby Murcer)
Rock Hardy 65 (Suzanne Pleshette, Suharto, Bo Diddley)
Fred Nerk 62 (Imam Samudra)
jaymc 58 (Suharto, Charlton Heston, Sydney Pollack)
limon 47 (Arthur C. Clarke, Bo Diddley, Estelle Getty)
get bent 34 (William F. Buckley, Estelle Getty)
robertwolf8080 26 (Arthur C. Clarke, Estelle Getty)
Kenan 25 (Roy Scheider)
todd swiss 21 (Bo Diddley)
kingfish 19 (Harvey Korman)
ailsa 17 (Charlton Heston)
gershy 16 (Earl Butz, Dick Martin)
Grandpont Genie 8 (Reg Varney)
hawth 5 (W. Mark Felt)

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

Also, I just realized that kingfish picked Harry Reasoner for this year's pool. Harry Reasoner died in 1991.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

Update:

Dom Passantino 68 (Suzanne Pleshette, Bobby Murcer)
Rock Hardy 65 (Suzanne Pleshette, Suharto, Bo Diddley)
Fred Nerk 62 (Imam Samudra)
jaymc 58 (Suharto, Charlton Heston, Sydney Pollack)
limon 47 (Arthur C. Clarke, Bo Diddley, Estelle Getty)
get bent 34 (William F. Buckley, Estelle Getty)
Grandpont Genie 27 (Reg Varney, Eartha Kitt)
robertwolf8080 26 (Arthur C. Clarke, Estelle Getty)
Kenan 25 (Roy Scheider)
todd swiss 21 (Bo Diddley)
kingfish 19 (Harvey Korman)
ailsa 17 (Charlton Heston)
gershy 16 (Earl Butz, Dick Martin)
hawth 5 (W. Mark Felt)

WmC, Friday, 26 December 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

Good job, WmC. I was away from the ol' .xls for a few days.

Two days left -- can Dom hold on? He's been in the lead since July, but it's pretty tight at the top. Pete Seeger dies tomorrow, and Fred Nerk wins it.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

lol what an awesome thread

how the hell did dom even know who bobby murcer was

cankles, Monday, 29 December 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

u got '09 thread yet?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 December 2008 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

I'll start it on Wednesday.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

Some other guy started one, but I don't recognize its legitimacy.

I have a post-it note full of names for '09 accumulated throughout the year on the side of my computer.

WmC, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

I was going to suggest for next year's pool: maybe we switch up to teams of 15?

Roni Size Queen (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 29 December 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

Or even 20.

Roni Size Queen (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 29 December 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm, I'm not completely opposed to the idea. What's your motivation -- just so that people win with more than two names?

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 29 December 2008 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah. 20 may be an excess, 15 seems to be better... it'd allow for more deaths during the year, plus it'd make the circle of picks wider, so next year it's not every Britisher picking Bobby Robson and every American picking whicheverthefuck US sports figure is being wheeled off his deathbed to pick up a lifetime achievement award this year.

Roni Size Queen (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

That's an awful statement to make about Ben Roethlisberger.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

I have no idea if that's a real person or if it's some Chuck "Chuck" Bubbaferger of the New East Paddington Ashtrays thing.

Roni Size Queen (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

I played in a different dead pool list, but the only two hits I got were for Bettie Page and Paul Newman. Working on my 2009 list...

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 29 December 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

Pete Seeger dies tomorrow, and Fred Nerk wins it.

Margaret Thatcher, too, for that matter.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 29 December 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

What clock are we going by here? Eastern?

When I argue I wear Bapes (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 1 January 2009 01:32 (sixteen years ago)

I say American Samoa.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 1 January 2009 04:55 (sixteen years ago)

Looks like Dom wins this. (I'll go through later just to make sure no one else has died in the two weeks since I last checked, but I can't think of any. No one had Freddie Hubbard or Harold Pinter, for example.)

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Thursday, 1 January 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)


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