Who should replace Alex McLeish as Scotland Manager?

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Apparently there's a shortlist of 4, so which of those 4 should get the job?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Tommy Burns 12
George Burley 5
Graeme Souness3
Mark McGhee 0


Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still backing the Amstrad CPC 6128 that flashes "4-4-2" in BASIC. He can do a good job at Hamden Park.

Well, at least a better than those four.

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not really against either 4 (or Kenny Dalglish who was mentioned by some people) but none of them have me excited either.
But I think Tommy Burns probably is the top candidate as he's been assistant manager and should have had the job before big eck.
Plus I think out of those candidates he is (hopefully) more likely to have his team play decent football.
10 years ago I would've snapped Souness up in a second but I think he's past it now.

Would anyone have liked Jimmy Calderwood as manager?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

What, no Sam Allardyce?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

My Dad hates McGhee cos he always takes his glasses off before doing TV interviews.

Also cos of him being a shit Wolves manager, obv.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

"Hello my name is Berti...Stgov...and I come from a place...far far away"

blueski, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

Martin Jol

ken c, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

dalglish, for the lulz

darraghmac, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I hope it's Souness.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

Big Sam is now available

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

There is a shortlist of five, btw, poor wee Billy Davies, all forgotten about.

There is no-one in the fucking WORLD who would want Jimmy Calderwood as manager, is there?

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

I hope there's no-one who wants Billy Davies! (is there?)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7186059.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tommy ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Burns gets my vote

... no surprise there

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully he'll say Scollandfooballclub in interviews.

onimo, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

Top 10 most succesful Scotland managers:

1. Alex McLeish (2007) - 70.00% (win percentage)
2. Ian McColl (1960–65) - 60.71%
3. Tommy Docherty (1971–72) - 58.33%
4. Selection committee (1872–1954 & 1954–58) - 58.27%
5. Matt Busby (1958) - 50.00%
6. Malcolm McDonald (1966–67) - 50.00%
7. Willie Ormond (1973–77) - 47.37%
8. Craig Brown (1993–2002) - 45.71%
9. Walter Smith (2004–07) - 43.75%
10. Jock Stein (1965–66) - 42.86%

Bring back the Selection Committee!

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

Craig Brown (1993–2002)

wonder if you'll ever get a Scotland manager reign this long again

blueski, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

If they had no amibition and got them to every other international tourney, maybe.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think they'd get the chance to reach more than one tournament before heading off to either Rangers, Celtic or a midtable Prem club.

blueski, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Craig Brown (1993–2002)

wonder if you'll ever get a Scotland manager reign this long again

If they play like Brown's teams, I hope not

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

i know you'd rather Scotland played good football than qualified for tournaments

blueski, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

True, just as long as Craig Brown's not the manager

Tom D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone who is actually Scottish vote for Souness?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

Mark McGhee with 0 votes is supposedly the hot favourite for the job.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

There might be one or two people in Scotland who are fans of Souness, given that he played for and managed Rangers and set the ball rolling on their 9-in-a-row and all that.

Mark McGhee is not the hot favourite for the job, he just has more friends singing his praises in the press. The hot favourite is none other than Graeme Souness.

Graeme Souness 4/7
Mark McGhee 3/1
Tommy Burns 7/2
George Burley 4/1

onimo, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

A lot of the praise for Mark McGhee in the press seems to be for his sensitivity and dignity in his relations with the media following the death of Phil O'Donnell, as opposed to any real footballing credentials. Being a nice bloke and decent human being doesn't necessarily win you stuff. A poll on Real Radio this afternoon had 50%+ of respondents favouring Souness.

ailsa, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Andy Roxburgh. The 90s are back.

The Boyler, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7196547.stm
1st Billy refuses to go through the interviews process now Tommy allegedly isn't so keen either.
Whoever is left standing gets the job it seems.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

A poll on Real Radio this afternoon had 50%+ of respondents favouring Souness

How many weren't Rangers fans I wonder?

Tom D., Friday, 18 January 2008 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like Souness doesn't fancy the wages.

onimo, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Good

Tom D., Friday, 18 January 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

If they all knock it back does billy davies just get the job as he's available, desperate and cheap?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Want the scotland job, Onimo?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Well, yes. Or they could sound out more people who might actually be interested, other than people who they would like to be interested.

xpost

ailsa, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Also, how can they give a job to Billy Davies when he's not going to take it?

ailsa, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

oops, ailsa nearly got the job there!

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

i'm available, desperate, cheap and might even choose to play our best striker when we need a goal :-)

ailsa, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Archie Buchanan confirmed. "Eh...what team am I managing again?"

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Some clown in the paper yesterday was wondering why Colin Hendry hadn't been mentioned as a potential candidate. I'm assuming he hasn't looked at the first division table recently.

ailsa, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

(and yes, he did mention about his braveheart attitude, lol ridiculous jimmy-wigged morons)

ailsa, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

"They can take our lives but they will never take our Jimmy wigs!"

Tom D., Friday, 18 January 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Souness might be desperate enough for one last crack at a big job, supposedly he's up for the Republic Of Ireland job (Can't see that one happening)

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Shearer seen scooting up the M74.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Colin Hendry has resigned on compassionate grounds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/clyde/7196978.stm
I'm not suggesting he's in for the scotland job, just posting it here because he was mentioned a few posts ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 January 2008 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Gordon Smith said yesterday the appointment would be announced at the end of january, but apparently they are to offer the job to...

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Gordon Smith is a grade A wank.

Burley would be a good choice.

As much as I like Tommy Burns I think he's better left to youth development etc. rather than managing the national side.

jim, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hugh Keevins and Davie Proven were moaning on the radio on sunday that top managers were being forced to suffer the indignity of being interviewed by amateurs in the sfa who have no place in football and how Gordon Smith should be the only man appointing who he thought was best.
I got my dad to switch off the car radio.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Provan

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Offering job to Burley will be top lolz if he says no.

Do you think it's right that a bunch of business suits with no idea how to manage a football team are the ones to choose then, yes?

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think it's right Gordon Smith should choose?
Suits at clubs decide who is manager so why should it be any different

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't matter whether or not *I* think it's right, it's his job as Chief Exec - I was asking you since you're the one that got someone to turn the radio off for you, such was your disgust. The SFA has a council and representatives therein at all levels of the game in Scotland, so some input from those who've been there might be not a bad idea (I have no idea how their selection / interview process actually goes and which particular suits do the interviewing, btw, but I don't see the boss having the final say being a terribly bad thing).

International management is not the same as club management, and the organisational structures are totally different so not a fair comparison and totally irrelevant to this.

As another thought, someone on one of the England threads (actually, it might have been on another message board, come to think of it) made the very valid point that it might be worth conducting exit interviews with people who had held the post previously to see what they thought the job meant to them, where they could have had better backing etc etc.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Seems like a compensation agreement's been reached with Southampton and it's just up to the SFA/Burley to agree terms. Like "don't pull any Romanov choosing-my-team-for-me shit on me and I might stay longer than five minutes", that sort of thing :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Burley's agent Athole Still said: "He's a football guy and by that I mean he likes his teams to play football.

blueski, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Good. I like Burley.

Tom D., Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)


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