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What ILxer reminds you most of yourself? Dan and Ned springs to mind, sorry for using such an obvious example.

But who reminds you of yourself? And do you argue with them because of it? Do you agree with the theory of disliking people due to seeing aspects of their personality you don't like in yourself? I'm not too sure.

I'll put this sentence in cos I'm sick of ending posts with "I'm not too sure" and "I dunno" and "perhaps".

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't mean Dan and Ned remind me of MYself. anyway.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No one really springs to mind. I have some common ground with quite a few posters. But, no real mind-meld!

― jel --, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Like looking in a mirror is possibly the stupidest, stupidest name for this thread. jesus.........

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A moderator could rename it for you Ronan, (I think)...I suggest ILE: Mind-Meld Shocker!

― jel --, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know. Many people who probably won't agree with me on this.

Shades of, well you Ronan in some respects, Di, Emma, Evangeline, Ellie,Tom perhaps, Nick as a real person rather than scary net alter ego.

Actually reviewing that list of madly disparate people I think you can take bits of anyone. Hmm. No one over-riding person really.

― Anna, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am like a big grown up version of Graham, apparently (the internet version, not the scary real life one).

Actually, I tend to see myself most in Tom, Chris, Ellie, Nicole and above all Nitsuh.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is bugging me as it seems to assume that you can actually tell what someone is like from reading their bored / crazed / provocative rantings on the internet.

― Emma, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No it isn't.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Err - 'doesn't'.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually it's suddenly bugging me too and I am now ignoring it.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah it isn't. Noone's saying you're absolutely right or that if you met the person in real life things would be the same.

If I say the age difference makes things difficult for me is that a cop out?

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sigh.......NO MORE THREAD STARTING for me today. jesus.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What is it about Ronan?

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not making any such assumption Emma - its saying who reminds you of yourself, i.e. whose crazed internet persona reminds you most of your own 'real life' self. Anyway you are exactly the same online as offline. (OK I only think this because I knew you offline first).

― Tom, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well sorry but when you mention 'seeing aspects of their personality' it seems to suggest that you can make these out from reading ILE.

Ronan go to the corner and have a good hard think about what you have done.

― Emma, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe I seem the same offline as online to you because I am deliberately playing up to the image you have of me as a result of what I'm like online? And we didn't really know each other that well offline before. I hope this isn't sounding too bitchy. Oh dear.

― Emma, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There is no such thing as one's 'real personality' you rockist.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm mystified by Nicks post. Is it good? Is it bad? I don't know. oh yeah I'm allowed speak from the bold corner right?

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick is right. I mean he's actually quite pleasant sometimes in real life.

― Ally C, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah Emma but I think it's as simple as me knowing your tone of voice and the way you speak beforehand and reading your comments with that in mind. Those things are massive carriers of 'personality' - what I'm saying is that for me you don't have a separate 'online' personality because I 'hear' Emma when I read the posts. Whereas for Ned who I knew for ages online, even now I've met him I still don't match his online voice to his offline voice.

― Tom, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha, the idea that you 'hear' people you know when reading their posts makes me think of that thing they do in films / on TV where someone reads a letter sent by another character and it is read out in that character's voice.

― Emma, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom's last post is a prime example of seeing myself in the mirror. It is totally OTM.

― N., Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well then either I am a freak or just unusually grumpy and contrary today as I don't think I ever feel like that about things people say. I might think 'hmm yes I agree' but I never think 'oooh look that is EXACTLY how I feel, spooky'.

― Emma, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whereas for Ned who I knew for ages online, even now I've met him I still don't match his online voice to his offline voice.

Hm. I shall have to talk louder. ;-) But I understand where you're coming from there.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I might think 'hmm yes I agree' but I never think 'oooh look that is EXACTLY how I feel, spooky'.

scary! thats just how i feel!!!. erm...

― gareth, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

geoff

― anthony, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I aspire to be more like Ronan, but that's a slightly different question.

Also I just heard Hanle y's music for the first time and some of it strikes me as very much like stuff I've written.

― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

gah my head is big enough as things are Nitsuh. I can't help but ask why.....where a stronger man might just shut up.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe it’s just in contrast to the usual tone of net discussion—or more likely in contrast to the way I fear my posts come across—but you’re always quite friendly and just so admirably forthright about why you do or don’t think things, and what you do or don’t know about them; on some level you escape the way message boards slant everything toward becoming big pointed wrestling-match debates, insofar as your posts always seem like really trustworthy expressions of opinion rather than attempts to convince anyone of anything or defend your positions. (Read: "I envy your self-esteem!") Also possibly it’s that you seem to have less of a net or a writing persona than most do: your posts always seem like perfectly reasonable, accommodating things a friend might say as you were walking down the street. (Hahaha maybe this means you are young and naïve and therefore will only be pleasant until next year when you become jaded! Hopefully not.)

In conclusion: in a world of online Ronans, I suspect there would be precious little bitching or sniping.

― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

God thanks......copy and paste into compliments of the week thread. That's really good of you to say that. thanks. I now can see that as wild justification for every mentalist comment I've ever made : )

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hurrah for Nitsuh and Ronan both! For they have Achieved Peace.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the way this is going...

― Dan Irons, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr. C reminds me of me because he's old, likes the Buzzcocks, and confesses to having been a Jam fan. But he knows more about music and writes real good. I don't argue with him, or anyone else here, but I fully subscribe to the "if you spot it you got it"/"you are what you hate" schools of thought.

― dan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sometimes i feel a bit similar to masonic. but then not always.

― di, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does wishing you were like another ILx-er count?

― starry sound of jim, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Umm... I have a brown shirt (!?)

― emil.y, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In fact it's got to be Emma, or possibly Nicole. I'm well known to be an unobservant wench tho, so could be millions of miles off. But if accurate, perhaps this is why I rarely respond to their posts (already agreeing with them after all).

― Kim, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always post using a silly accent.

― jel --, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a world of online Ronans

What new circle of hell is this??

― N., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jesus Nick....there's not actually such a world.

So much for your Diamond Geezer status.

― Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's only in real life, Ronan, remember?

P.S. I love you really. I thought what Nitsuh said was very interesting re: you. I was thinking it was a product of your private education. Instilled a sense of confidence in yourself etc. The old cliché. Kind of worked for me. Kind of.

― N., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Our school used to say "Moulding men for others". Someone once got in trouble for saying "you mean for other men?", to the headmaster. The concept of moulding men to fit other men is quite disgusting. In fact there's a whole load of odd idiosynchrosies (spelling has gone to shit) about private schools I think. Teachers used to say "that's not in the Belvedere spirit". Belvedere being the name of the school.

Oddly when I went to college first, the girl I ended up fancying said to me after the first seminar where we got to speak much, "so belvedere boy yeah?". I was so disgusted. All those years of not playing rugby and mocking the school for nothing.

― Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Our school motto was "Manners makyth man". It dated from 13- eightysomething. I think by the 19th and 20th centuries all the vaguely sensible mottos had been taken. I also think that "Manners" in 13-eightysomthing probably didn't mean Emma's-etiquette-guide style manners but something about chivalry.

― Tom, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh our actual motto was "Per Vias Rectas". By Straight Ways. Judge it as you see fit.

― Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I dunno about other posters reminding me of myself, but I am glad that so many of the more leafy cul de sacs in the A-Z roadmap of my tastes are shared by the ILE community. I have talked with youse about Tom Lehrer to Tom Baker and been pleased to find like minded indivs. Particularly fine of late has been the Krazy Kat/Little Nemo threads which made my day, I can tell you.

Props to you all.

― misterjones, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ours was "floreat salopia" which boiled down means "Bring on the New World Order"

― mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

manners makyth man => cheese before pudding = UR gay

― mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

our one at primary school was "semper sursum" which is "always..." something i never found out what. though it should have been "cum grano salis" heheh.

― katie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Moulding men for others".

Which I read to mean 'men who are going mouldy'. My school had no motto and instilled no confidence in the worldly sense I think Nick means. There were no moulding men, though, so I guess it's a net gain.

― Ellie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

katie's motto = "i always go on top"

(euphemistically rendered: "ever upwards")

― mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

actually that wd be "semper supersum" (= i am always thooper)

― mark s, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Semper supersperm" sounds better though.

― Nicole, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Our schools motto was "The School In Borehamwood". What literalists.

― Pete, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom = Old Wykhamist or Old Chad & Jeremyist?

― David, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Pinefox and Ramosi have so much in common, don't you think?

― Nitsuh, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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