DONAL LOGUE POLL

Steal This Movie (2000) .... Stew Albert
Reindeer Games (2000) .... Pug
The Tao of Steve (2000) .... Dex
Blade (1998) .... Quinn

i would be happy for zodiac or grounded for life to win

takedown is the kevin mitnick movie btw

working title was "hackers 2"

Skeet Ulrich ... Kevin Mitnick

Russell Wong ... Tsutomu Shimomura

Angela Featherstone ... Julia

Donal Logue ... Alex Lowe

Christopher McDonald ... Mitch Gibson

Master P ... Brad

Tom Berenger ... McCoy Rollins

Jeremy Sisto ... Lance 'Icebreaker' Petersen

Amanda Peet ... Karen

Ethan Suplee ... Dan Bradley
Dorit Sauer ... Shelley

tao of steve is the worst movie ever

But Hackers 2/Mitnick/Takedown is the BEST movie ever.

I had totally forgotten he was the MTV cab driver guy!

I am tempted to vote for Grounded for Life just based on him + Kevin Corrigan being a wonderful combination

really? donal logue?

gotta be knuckle up

Grounded For Life 4 life

little women be little WINNIN.

I spent the better part of a year of post-college unemployment watching every episode ever made of Boy Meets World, Grounded For Life and 8 Simple Rules.

I liked that Steal from Mick Jagger show.

tao of steve is the worst movie ever

one of them.

def jimmy the cab driver wins

grounded for life is the shit

reindeer games is underrated

richard riehle, vv good in grounded for life

one of the only sitcoms with an appealingly hot wife imo

reindeer games bloooows.

you liked superman returns

s1ocki has two points in his favour

you liked reindeer games!

please tell me you've been saving that one up tho hahaha!

my super-shame.

reindeer games >>>> superman returns

don't like reindeer games much, actually

what's wrong with Tao of Steve?

reindeer games was funny

i avoid tao of steve like the plaque

plaque? plague

it is bad.

should be an option for his VH1 work

couldn't get past the trailer for tao of steve.

do all the ronin dickriders from a couple weeks ago hate reindeer games for being a step down or do they not know its a frankenheimer joint

The whole unraveling-through-flashback structure of Grounded for Life got grating, though. That is not a device you can use for every single episode of something. You can't structure a whole sitcom out of that.

no i knew that! just never seen it, cos the rvws were uniformly bad at the time. also: affleck

xp

benjamin hussein affleck

Matt Damon: Just take it from "It's a good course."
Ben Affleck: Oh, now you're the director.
Matt Damon: Hey shove it, Bounce-boy. Let's remember who talked who into doing this shit in the first place. Talking me into Dogma was one thing, but this...
Ben Affleck: Hey look, I'm sorry I dragged you away from whatever-gay-serial-killers-who-ride-horses-and-like-to-play-golf-touchy-feely-picture you're supposed to be doing this week.
Matt Damon: I take it you haven't seen Forces of Nature?
Ben Affleck: You're like a child. What've I been telling you? You gotta do the safe picture. Then you can do the art picture. But then sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him. And sometimes, you have to go back to the well.
Matt Damon: And sometimes, you do Reindeer Games.
Ben Affleck: See, that's just mean.

The whole unraveling-through-flashback structure of Grounded for Life got grating, though. That is not a device you can use for every single episode of something. You can't structure a whole sitcom out of that.

What about How I Met Your Mother?

Reindeer Games was lacking in the car chase department

'you're like a child' << funny in all contexts, spoken by anyone

i knew reindeer games was a frankenheimer joint. didnt really affect my opinion of it either way. besides being kinda let down i guess

i didnt think it was the g.o.a.t. or anything but catching it on british tv at like 2am i ended up getting into it

Reindeer Games (known as Deception in the UK) is a 2000 movie, directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Ben Affleck, Gary Sinise, and Charlize Theron. It was Frankenheimer's final film. This was shot in Vancouver and Prince George, British Columbia, Canada. The Native American characters who are an Old Governor and a Bartender (Gordon Tootoosis with his North of 60 co-star Jimmy Herman) do not talk in this live-action film.

is that what you liked about it?

yeah slutsky i hate movies where indian dudes are allowed to speak

I feel that way about new SVU episodes, actually

If I ever hear that guy say "well, the Mohawk believe" one more time...

i think i've said this before but the 'seedy underbelly of a sunny coastal town' aspect of Terriers was probably the closest thing it had to a strong thematic hook (and in that way it reminded me a bit of the Delaware boardwalk areas i grew up around) but they didn't play that up enough either

ha ok i believe you, i think ive moved past that now, and tbf im not the biggest fan of procedurals tho justified did to some extent make me ponder and appreciated what theyre all abt more xp

procedural conventions are like the formal constraints on sonnets!

probably not

i love genre, though

i loved the 'seedy underbelly of a sunny coastal town' aspect and also the 'brilliant loser detectives' and if the show had been particularly catering to me it wouldve been more of that and more serialized and less episodic and more judicious application of emo and prob leave out some of the blatant low rent tv tropes like the nerds

procedural conventions are like the formal constraints on sonnets!

― horseshoe, Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:47 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is fair!

haha what i really loved about the show was the regularity with which it made me cry. and the seedy underbelly of a sunny coastal town part, too.

the emo i thought was well done and def central to how the whole thing worked, just maybe it wouldve had more impact if there was a lil more idk rhythm to it

im not sure why im trying to create some other show here

if you successfully pitch Pugs to FX i think it'll go over well here

(some dude, we must have had this conversation before but where did you grow up? I'm from Rehoboth.)

I still haven't finished Terriers bc I'm hoping Jeff will watch it and we can see the second half together. We did start watching Justified and I'm surprised at how much I like it.

yeah, i lived in Rehoboth for about 10 years -- i've had convos w/ one or two people on ilx who've also lived there before but i dunno if it was you under a different display name or something

whoever made the VMars connection upthread - I've always thought of Terriers as being part of the same universe.

huh really? both set in the san diego area, but Vmars seems wayyyyy more cartoony than Terriers.

are there any other examples of SoCal noir out there? (xpost)

Veronica Mars was a bit light and quippy but i mean a lot of the main plot threads still revolved around rape and murder

yeah I've always made the V Mars/Terriers connection as well; probably my two favorite non-animated TV shows tbh

lol @ me

I feel like V Mars does rely on melodrama plot twists sometimes--Duncan & V are brother-sister, coma Meg is pregnant--but I feel there are def tonal affinities and a sophistication present in both that kind of couple them together in my mind

man, this fuckin show.

started watching terriers -- co-signing all the vmars vibes, am def digging it

Shaun Ryan said on Twitter yesterday he's thinking of starting a Kickstarter for a Terriers movie since the cast is all (for now) pretty much available.

TAKE MY MONEY

finished this & already miss it.

that post upthread abt the planned opening scene of a next season is interesting. yeah, hank is just fuckin w/ britt @ the end there but it does work imo

i like a lot of the non-hollywood looking actors that they used -- ie the investigative reporter lady & huh 'steph' is logues irl sister

hank's plan:

1. cheat

Rewatched Terriers recently, still love it

skeet ulrich was the drummer in gay dad

i love that they have millennial lone gunmen

Since this is sort of the default Terriers thread...

I'm watching it for the second time lately. I'm starting to think my favorite thing about it is that the characters' relationships outside the private-detective world actually exist outside the conventions of a private-detective show. They're not like crime-drama ex-wives and girlfriends, most of the time. They have a whole independent real-world context around them.

So most shows would use Hank's relationship with his ex-wife to have him act outwardly dramatic, brooding and fuming and fighting in crime-drama terms. But in this show he has to act like an actual modern human who's spent time in A.A., always trying to be decent in the same ordinary, real-world ways viewers have to be. It's a small thing, but watching your crusty private-detective protagonist sit with his ex-wife and say, e.g., "you're right, that was invasive, and I apologize" -- that feels so incredibly fresh to me! Most of the really moving Hank scenes involve his having to swallow emotions and do the right, appropriate thing, which (to me) turns out way more dramatic than the billion shows about guys who will never do that, or are so glorified by the plot that they're never even asked to.

(It's also the best possible use of Logue's face, which is why it's so terrific that his actual sister plays his sister -- they both have faces that seem sorta weathered and sad but fundamentally kind.)

And then Britt and Katie's relationship is framed in such a way that Katie is actually the protagonist. And even in crime-drama world, Britt and Hank process things between the two of them in those same real-world modern-human terms (like when Britt's upset about Katie and Hank offers the whole "patronizing" reassurance about their being equal partners) ...

I dunno. This show was good at a lot of things, but I think it was best at handling those relationships, and I can't help imagining that if it had gone for two or three seasons, it could have built such amazing long-term arcs out of them. I mean, look at how quickly it turned Katie into a really fascinating, central character. It did some really great women in general.

On my second viewing I was surprised by the strength of the casual wordplay in the dialogue. Hank is written as a clever guy, although never to the extent that his character falls into stereotypes of the bright alcoholic. The whole cast is that way, to an extent -- there's not any real repetition between characters and even the antagonists seem to have unique characteristics without resorting to shortcuts or cliches.

I've been putting off rewatching the show again because it didn't want to be sad a second time when it ended. Maybe that won't be the case, though, since I already know what happens.

Most of the really moving Hank scenes involve his having to swallow emotions and do the right, appropriate thing, which (to me) turns out way more dramatic than the billion shows about guys who will never do that, or are so glorified by the plot that they're never even asked to.

this was actually the norm for characters on nypd blue - i suspect the involvement of (non-heroicized) alcoholism made the writers a lot more sensitive to police/pi work as a minefield of vulnerability and emotion management

apparently DL's character that was very briefly in the last season of Sons of Anarchy is going to have a much bigger role in the new season XD

http://www.topiama.com/r/1583/iama-donal-logue-from-terriers-grounded-for-life

I had no idea Logue worked as a trucker in between acting gigs!

Terriers fans: Logue and Michael Raymond-James go trucking http://vimeo.com/19780775

i recently rewatched all of terriers and it still rules, if you were wondering.

karina logue has an amazing face.

ha i used to know KL way back when, she's pretty rad. we weren't super close or anything, i haven't seen her in like eight years, but it's always good to see her pop up in things (zodiac, justified, argo.)

on the lighter side, I'm curious if the words "Chance Geer" are actually said in Disclosure.
― da croupier, Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:41 AM (7 years ago)

Watching this for the way-too-many-th time. Doesn't seem so.

Logue's role on Sons of Anarchy was about the time I said "ok this show is too ridiculous even for me" and peaced out.

not that he didn't do the best he could with the stupid role but his character literally was only a stupid plot device with an all too convenient fatal flaw.

He's really good in Copper -- is that coming back?

No, the show wasn't good enough to get renewed, iirc

http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/1018591-fx-teases-potential-revival-terriers

"Teases" is a little strong, but Landgraf actually did say "I’m not saying we’ll never do a reboot because I guess we will at one point.”

I actually have the theme song on my phone and listen to it fairly regularly, not sure how crazy that makes me

Missed Terriers when it aired originally, it was the first binge show of the covid era i indulged in when it showed up on hulu, now *rescreening* it 2.5 years later and just loving everything about it again

YES

I have to admit I found Logue serially irritating until I fell for him in Terriers. Is he is in anything else that's actually good?

Mostly I was put off by the cloying trailer for Tao of Steve, rather than any actual performance

Great cameo in "What We Do in the Shadows."

Kind of kills me that Donal Logue's steadiest-paying gigs are on B- to D-tier tv series as a tertiary character. I guess all of his movie character actor roles are kind of samey, though?