the thread where HOOS pitches/solicits ideas for "art responses" in his contemporary art class

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Taking a Contemporary Art course where one of the requirements is "art responses," something must be produced (written doesn't count) that in some way responds to something we've been covering.

Instructor will essentially accept anything, so I'ma have fun with it. Me & the gf are putting me in a dress & making vag-shaped cookies for a 1950s Good Housekeeping-style fake ad.

After reading "Minimalism and the Rhetoric of Power" over the weekend I kinda think the Minimalists were jerks. Tony Smith's famous piece Die is sorta a cornerstone, so I wanna respond to it. MSPaint sketch of what it might look like:

http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08043/die413.png

Would it be too obvious to call it "Blackbird"?

What should I do to respond to "Performance Art"? "Appropriation Art?" "Street Art?" "Loser Art/Abject Art/Pathetic Aesthetic?" "Celebrity and Commodification?"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm to class, so forgive me for not responding to any responses right away.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

art is bunkum. modern art is rubbish.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.guypetersreviews.com/images/blurmodern.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Instructor will essentially accept anything, so I'ma have fun with it. Me & the gf are putting me in a dress & making vag-shaped cookies for a 1950s Good Housekeeping-style fake ad.

pictures please

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

oh there will be pictures

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

10+ hour slo-mo video of you kicking someone out of your hotel

gff, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

thanking u

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

and 10 hour biopic of the ensuing clusterf*ck thread, starring gary sinise and divine.

sorry, HOOS, that first post was narky. i got nothing to contribute, and will now skulk off feeling ashamed.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

obv. for "appropriation art" you should steal a classmates assignment and present it as your own.

John Justen, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

xps yeah that was kind of weak.

too bad you don't like minimalism tho! do you think the art is actually bad, or were the minimalists jerks in some concrete way?

and i am a fan of long ass slo mo videos

gff, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

call it big DIE aka the artproject

max, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

go to class naked, refuse to answer questions about why

milo z, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

I recreated a bunch of Rothkos in html once for an Art History class assignment.

Kerm, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

in-class jenkem consumption

elan, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

video of someone nerf-missiling you in the shoulder

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

After watching a program about Donald Judd on the Ovation channel just the other day, I'm almost excited to agree with anyone that the minimalists were jerks.

And from Wikipedia: Donald Clarence Judd (June 3, 1928 - February 12, 1994) was a minimalist artist (a term he stridently disavowed)

good grief...

Kerm, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

I seem to be the only person that finds the visual joke in my MSPaint sketch funny.

:(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait lj apparently thought it was hilars

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

awesome

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

go to class naked, refuse to answer questions about why

-- milo z, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:14 PM

so gonna happen

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

ok so i did "die exploded" viz above. it's the six squares between two sheets of clear contact paper.

here is my pretensious-as-fuck "artist's statement" that the assignment dictates has to come with the piece:

This piece, which I have titled Die, Exploded (Open Letter to Tony Smith et al), has an immediate reference point in Tony Smith's seminal Die, but Die, Exploded is intended as a response to and critique of the Minimalist aesthetic more generally. Reading Anna C. Chave's essay “Minimalism and the Rhetoric of Power” left me rather dead-set against the Minimalists. The smug disingenuousness and coy phallocentrism evident in work like Dan Flavin's The Diagonal of May 25, 1963, for example, left a bad taste in my mouth. I felt a need to issue a rejoinder.

This piece imagines that Smith's steel box has been exploded from within, and that the six sides which form the cube have spread out in the formation suspended. The “multiple valences” (to borrow from Chave) of this particular formation are left to the viewer to determine, but I would hope that one particular meaning is clear and shouldn't require being spelled out. Like the Zen koans of old, think of this statement as merely “the finger pointing at the moon.”

In contrast to Smith, I used lightweight and disposable materials to construct my piece. Unlike most Minimalist work, which seems to suggest a kind of totalitarian, industrial permanence, Die, Exploded makes no claims on permanence and in fact underlines its own disposability. Its size is also a factor in this. Unlike Smith's secretive, closed black box Die Exploded is completely transparent in its construction. Ideally it might be suspended from a ceiling so that it could be viewed from any and all sides.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 February 2008 06:30 (eighteen years ago)

Thank god for explanations.

libcrypt, Monday, 11 February 2008 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

coy phallocentrism (...) left a bad taste in my mouth

oops

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 February 2008 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4507/imageuploadimagecs1.jpg

libcrypt, Monday, 11 February 2008 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

i felt a need to issue

estela, Monday, 11 February 2008 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

I (...) Exploded (...) in (...) Smith's (...) box

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 11 February 2008 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

I....hope.....I....might be suspended from a ceiling

estela, Monday, 11 February 2008 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

Judd is a fucking jerk. Hoos plz drive to Marfa & offer a pointed critique to passersby. (I would say "blow his stuff up" but that seems a bit harsh.)

Abbott, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:05 (eighteen years ago)

is "exploded" supposed to be a peener?

Abbott, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

actually the orig intent was for it to be "the finger," and the waaaaaaaay obv "coy phallocentrism" (hur hur) didn't even occur to me until ljag pointed it out!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:15 (eighteen years ago)

Still waiting on the Good Housekeeping vag cookie pics. (folds hands on lap demurely)

Aimless, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

hey so for 'appropriation art' i did Random Garfield Generator plus pretensious titles

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

Where's the cookie sheet?

Aimless, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

alright so i put this third project off til the last minute cause fuck it i'm a senior

then i realized i had no ideas

so i made a "sound collage" (aka a long ambient track played backwards + some pitch-shifted & cutup samples over the top) and wrote a page about how its an abstract audio history of race relations since 1957.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 07:28 (seventeen years ago)

titled it "Emancipation (sublimateD)"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 07:28 (seventeen years ago)

Next piece should be a urinal with your urine in it, entitled 'dis is what i think of yo shit duchamp (more leik duchump) u chess playin fag'.

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 08:15 (seventeen years ago)

titled it "Emancipation (sublimateD)"

YSI?

sanskrit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

lol will do but i warn you it is shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

oh btw i totally idea-jacked from The Field by sampling & fucking w/the "doobopdoobop" bit of "I Only Have Eyes for You"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

Samples:

-”Hunting for Vegetarian Fuckface” by Stars of the Lid
-”Black Satin” by Miles Davis
-”I Only Have Eyes for You” by The Flamingos
-”How You Think I Got It” by Clipse & Reup Gang
-”Truth Is Marching” by Albert Ayler
-”Orbs” by Sam Rivers

And then a ridic paragraph about how each section represents the evolution of race relations in a particular decade.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

Detamilbus?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Is the piece sort of like Bangbus?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

lol on aim max and i bandied about possibilities of working in detamilbus somehow

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

titled it "Emancipation (sublimateD)"

DJ Spooky?

jaymc, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

(Detamilbus) noit a pic namE

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

oh there will be pictures

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:43 AM

you big (HOOS) tease

Aimless, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

DJ HOOSy aka that STEINDRIVIN' KIDS

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

I always wonder how teachers grade this kind of stuff, or your 'project.' Fortunately, this is America, where if you wrap junk like jewelry, people act likeit's jewelry.

Abbott, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

I am starting to suspect that Mr HOOS found his initial project for making vaginaform cookies was biting off more than he could chew.

Aimless, Thursday, 17 April 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

bro i will do them over the summer just 4 u shit sounds like fun anyways and the gf loves the idea

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 April 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

Cookie dough is a challenging medium.

Aimless, Thursday, 17 April 2008 01:54 (seventeen years ago)

HOOS i'm glad you're not an ivy leaguer
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24513

sanskrit, Thursday, 17 April 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

^^lol i was just considering posting that

johnny crunch, Thursday, 17 April 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

^^lol i was considering contributing to that

sanskrit, Friday, 18 April 2008 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

Got my most recent project back w/grade & comments:

"100! Stunning, really a very impressive project to end the semester with. Stay in touch, I'd like to follow your work!"

I don't know if I feel glad I got one over on the guy or a little bit disappointed that he didn't see right through me. I'd almost been hoping he'd give the lie to the whole "they'll give ANYTHING a good grade in these classes" stereotype and see through my BS and give me an F!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

conversation with my brother on facebook chat:

miles
learnig to weld
getting in to sculpter in big ways
10:21amMax
i think its spelled sculpture
10:21ammiles
shut uyp
im an artist
10:21amMax
tru
10:21ammiles
we dont need to spell
and even if i did misspell it
its part of my statement on the medium
im re contextualizing...
something
my dick

max, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)


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