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Is there any good in Dianetics? Is it possible to be a high level "dianeticologist" (whatever)like the head of dianetics for a particular country, without having anything to do with the church of scientology?

Embarchie, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

I read the first of the three parts of Dianetics and this is exactly what was going through my head all the way through. It left me with way more questions about Sc!ento!ogy than I had before, because it doesn't seem to tie in with anything I know about the church. In fact, it seemed pretty distant from the whole thing.

Has anyone here read the whole thing and more books on the subject, or spent time doing their own tests and whatnot? I see a lot of dianetics kits being sold at boot fairs, so I imagine so.

melton mowbray, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

Weird - friends and I just had a conversation last night about how the commercials for the Dianetics book were on CONSTANTLY when we were kids. Also, since it didn't give any info on what it was about - I thought it was a book about diets.

ENBB, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

all u need for a little DIY brain-napping:

http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/images18/blue-e-meter.jpg

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

That looks like one of those Uncle Fester/electric chair things you get in arcades. Does Dianetics hurt?

melton mowbray, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Is that an e-meter? I've never seen one.

ENBB, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't the CoS get mad if you ebay them?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

They have to sell them with a disclaimer saying "This doesn't actually do anything", lol.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Also, since it didn't give any info on what it was about - I thought it was a book about diets.

Dietnetics: The Modern Science of Dropping a Few Pounds

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

An e-meter is a primitive polygraph, from what I understand.

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Auditing is assisted by use of a specially designed meter which helps the auditor and preclear locate areas of spiritual distress or travail. This instrument is called an Electro-psychometer, or E-Meter. The E-Meter measures the mental state or change of state of a person and thus is of enormous benefit to the auditor in helping the preclear locate areas to be handled. The reactive mind’s hidden nature requires utilization of a device capable of registering its effects – a function the E-Meter does accurately.

When the E-Meter is operating and a person holds the meter’s electrodes, a very tiny flow of electrical energy (about 1.5 volts – less than a flashlight battery) passes down the wires of the E-Meter leads, through the person’s body and back into the E-Meter. The electrical flow is so small, there is no physical sensation when holding the electrodes.

The pictures in the mind contain energy and mass. The energy and force in pictures of experiences painful or upsetting to the person can have a harmful effect upon him. This harmful energy or force is called charge.

When the person holding the E-Meter electrodes thinks a thought, looks at a picture, reexperiences an incident or shifts some part of the reactive mind, he is moving and changing actual mental mass and energy. These changes in the mind influence the tiny flow of electrical energy generated by the E-Meter, causing the needle on its dial to move. The needle reactions on the E-Meter tell the auditor where the charge lies, and that it should be addressed by a process.

The Electropsychometer, or E-Meter, measures the mental state or change of state of a person, helping the auditor and preclear locate areas of spiritual distress or travail so they can be addressed and handled.

Different needle movements have exact meanings and the skill of an auditor includes a complete understanding of all meter reactions. Using the meter, the auditor ensures the process covers the correct area in order to discharge the harmful energy connected with that portion of the preclear’s reactive mind. When charge lessens, the person heightens his ability to think clearly in the area being addressed and his survival potential increases proportionately. As a result, the preclear discovers things about himself and his life – new realizations about existence, the milestones that mark his gains.

These realizations result in a higher degree of awareness and consequently a greater ability to succeed.

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

polygraphs are practically crystal suppositories in terms of their scientific merit

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HFyMhp9B6E

Bodrick III, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

I was a dick to a young dianetics leafletter a few years ago. Was I wrong in assuming he was missionary for scientology? When I mentioned the church of scientology he said, "Oh no they've a different technology"

Embarchie, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

polygraphs are practically crystal suppositories in terms of their scientificpsychological merit

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

The science of polygraphs is perfectly understood. The psychology, on the other hand, is weak.

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

crystal suppositories

LOL. I had to take a polygraph for my first job NYC interview (in a bank!) 1 million years ago. Lied my ass off about the obvious and not only passed but got offered the job (and didn't take it). I always wondered though if they knew my answers were false or just didn't care about highering somebody who inhaled.

m coleman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

'highering' you say

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

L. Ron Hubbard Explains Time

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Loving the music on that vid.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 27 January 2008 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

The science of polygraphs is perfectly understood. The psychology, on the other hand, is weak.

-- libcruise, Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:47 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Psychology isn't science?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 27 January 2008 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, meant to say, psychology is practically crystal suppositories in terms of its scientific merit.

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

If I ever become a transsexual stripper/performance artist I am so going to change my name to Crystal Suppositories.

latebloomer, Sunday, 27 January 2008 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Why wait?

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

ha

s1ocki, Sunday, 27 January 2008 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

Do they have any Dianetics undergarments?

mulla atari, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.cafepress.com/product/20647317_240x240_Front.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

e string

ken c, Sunday, 27 January 2008 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

thetan thong

latebloomer, Monday, 28 January 2008 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://files.splinder.com/231fedbeffb6e9cca44d57da0872bcef.jpeg

Along the way Burroughs experimented with yet another technique for going deeper into one's mental filters: Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard, creator of Scientology, was teaching that memories of events, or of words overheard while sleeping, and even of past life events were stored in a person's unconscious mental record. By bringing this information out into the open, the emotional charge on this baggage could be "cleared". What so impressed Burroughs was the effectiveness of the Scientology techniques. He once wrote that one could accomplish more with 10 hours of Scientology techniques than with 10 years of psychotherapy. He felt he accomplished a great deal of self healing through applying their methods, and for a time he was obsessed with "audits" and "E-meters".

But as he penetrated more deeply into the church he discovered that the visionary Hubbard was also an eccentric fascist and that his "church" used appallingly effective mind control techniques to assure a steady supply of loyalty, secrecy, and cash. Burroughs found it sickening and ironic that a tool effective for setting people free was being used to enslave them in other ways. He broke with Scientology and went on to blab all that he knew. (Note that a man with fewer guns might not have been so brave! Scientology had a strong policy of punishing those who broke the silence or pissed them off.)

am0n, Monday, 28 January 2008 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suburbia.com.au/~fun/scn/etc/wsb-elhombre.html

His attitude to L. Ron Hubbard was sometimes detected by the auditors, who got a reading on the E-Meter at the mention of his name. 'Well, I just can't help being jealous of someone so perfect,' ad-libbed Bill and the auditor was satisfied. 'All that time I don't know how I managed to avoid getting a with-hold on hating Hubbard's big fat face,' said Burroughs. 'I would be sitting in a reception room and some shiny-faced new pre-clear would say, "What do you think of Ron's new directives?" and I'd say, "Oh, I'm sure Ron knows what he's doing, heh, heh!"

XD

am0n, Monday, 28 January 2008 03:22 (eighteen years ago)


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