wtf? "Canadian" is the new N-word?

it'll never catch on.

Canadian is the ... of the world?

http://www.john-lennon.com/songlyrics/songs/Woman_is_the_Nigger_of_the_World.htm

oh, racistspaws

if hating two-dollar coins make me racist then so be it. you hear that ilx: i am a racist.

Wasn't the woman who received the "nigger brown" couch a Canadian?

I suggest that "Boing Boing readers" becomes the racial epiphet du jour.

For Italians.

As in short-bus, drooly, crayon-eating "Italians."

asians should be called "african-american"

I've heard the Canadian thing from waiters going back at least to 1997 or so...

nice. i've always wanted to be black.

yeah 'Canadian' has been around.

I've heard the Canadian thing from waiters going back at least to 1997 or so...

^^^

although I take exception to it as a specifically Southern meme. I'm fairly certain the first time I heard it was above the MAson-Dixon.

Dude boing boing totally stole my link

Yeah I heard it from a gay Lebanese man from the upper peninsula of Michigan. Pretty much not-Southern in every way.

fucking cocksuckers

err xpsot

Well I mean, yes, actually.

What's that a euphamism for?

xxpost

Canadian is the ... of the world?

There is a song, maybe 60s or 70s, that makes exactly this protest about the Quebecois!

Canadian is the Quebecois of the world.

I'm black and Canadian, so if someone said this about me would it still be racist? I'm so confused.

its a double negative

I think we can deduce that j-rock is neither black nor Canadian.

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Strictly 4 My C.A.N.A.D.I.A.N.S.

Canadian is the ... of the world?

There is a song, maybe 60s or 70s, that makes exactly this protest about the Quebecois!

-- nabisco, Monday, January 28, 2008 5:18 PM (3 hours ago)

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"I think we can deduce that j-rock is neither black nor Canadian."

Oddly enough, this isn't the first time that someone on this board has said that about me, but I assure you that I am indeed both. What do I need to do prove this? My parents both immigrated from the Caribbean, I was born just outside Toronto, I play hockey and can speak French. I don't know what else to tell you.

this might be happening with waiters in Ohio, but it hasn't "caught on" anywhere else.

If bigoted southerners were going to make up a pseudo-name, they'd use "French" before "Canadaian".

this might be happening with waiters in Ohio, but it hasn't "caught on" anywhere else.

The Cincinnati blogger said that it was happening to her friend in the Southeast, not to her.

xxp: Yes, but your blackness and Canadian-ness cancel each other out and neither remains.

Another reason this is all sad = I have kind of picked up the habit of using "Canadian" to mean "vaguely off and different in some hard-to-pinpoint way"

Don't worry, we've still got "Belgian" for that.

Ah, so someone in Cincinnati said that she heard from someone in the "southeast" that some people were going around interchanging "Canadian" for racial epithets.

These bloggers sure do go to bat for responsible journalism!

I used to date someone who loved teh word "gay" as a pejorative. He insisted that it wasn't about gay v straight, it was just an arbitrary pick. I said then why not substitute "Turkish"? So for a while he did. It was funny.

stromfront is full of southerners in NC & TN confirming it

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/u-s-south-canadian-new-455954.html?highlight=canadian

Laurel OTM, I heard it all the time when I worked in restaurants (1999-2003).

Also commonly referred to was "bingo" (ie 'blackout') - a mythical game where waiters chipped in on a pot that went to the first section w/ all black guests. Never saw this actually happen.

as a like 5th generation canadian with some real love for the US this makes me feel really fucking weird
xposts
"vaguely off and different in some hard-to-pinpoint way" O_o noooo. okay but i do use this re: tv/movies production/look/feel i.e. 'this feels v canadian' but that really is abt more than aesthetics. but also a bit of the old self-deprecation is part of being cdn :/

but anyway this is some messed up compounded racism
i'm never calling anything 'gay' or 'finnish' again unless it defacto is

that sounds far too trite, but you know what i mean

Another reason this is all sad = I have kind of picked up the habit of using "Canadian" to mean "vaguely off and different in some hard-to-pinpoint way"

-- nabisco, Monday, January 28, 2008 3:07 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I know, right? we used to do the lol canadians thing in college, but this kind of killed it.

I should note that I have heard this usage in restaurants in both MS & TN as far back as the late 90's.

this usage = as the new N-word

Aww Rrrobyn I should be clear that the "vaguely off" version of "Canadian" is not pejorative, and is mostly based on the sense of ... like being an American watching a TV show and thinking "this seems American but slightly different in some way I cannot pinpoint," and then of course it turns out it's just Canadian.

Also I think there's a part in Dude, Where's My Car? where someone uses it that way.

Also sometimes it works with people? Or anyway I used to work with this woman who just seemed ever so slightly odd in her manner and style, and it wasn't until years later that I learned she was Canadian and it all made sense to me.

I feel bad now.

Maybe I was just being charitable, but I never took the C-word as the N-word - just a way to not say 'black.'

Possibly splitting hairs too far.

No, that was my impression too, milo. Not a negative nec but cert used in an unflattering way.

Re tipping, specifically.

I should note that I think Canada's awesome and have loved the times I have visited and the folks are usually approx 14% cooler than your avg yank in my experience, and if it wasn't so goddam cold I would seriously consider emigrating. No offense intended w/ lol canadians.

xpost clarification: I mean, you guys are from another country/culture, only it's just similar enough to ours that we don't always notice, and we sit around trying to figure out exactly what's going on.

Kind of like how I meet people from the Indian subcontinent who think I look Indian but then start asking if I'm from India or Pakistan or Sri Lanka or what, like they're trying to sort out whether there's some strange unheard-of region hidden away where people look like me

A University of Kansas linguist said that a waitress friend reported that "fellow workers used to use a name for inner-city families that were known to not leave a tip: Canadians.

Another reason this is all sad = I have kind of picked up the habit of using "Canadian" to mean "vaguely off and different in some hard-to-pinpoint way"

-- nabisco, Monday, January 28, 2008 9:07 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

L O S T returns in 3 days

They don't leave a tip = call them British, for god's sake

Fucking belief.

What about the white trashes, is there some code word for them?

Are there any tipping stereotypes about dinosaurs? "Tyrannosaurs are good, but don't even bother with a fucking diplodocus."

Do people try to avoid androids? Or the British?

Clearly drunk patrons, are they a no go?

Is there anyone servers don't dread serving?

other servers

Furriners have almost as bad a rap as 'Canadians.' Fucking Germans.

In a small town where everyone is well-fed, the server serves everybody who does not serve himself. Who serves the server?

Furriners

I thought this said "Furriers," instantly thinking this was some quaint term for the influence French fur trappers had on Canada.

BOOOOOOOOARDZOOOOOOOONE

Yeah I heard it from a gay Lebanese man from the upper peninsula of Michigan.

I had a brief moment of "oh shit, there are two gay Lebanese yoopers?" until I remembered dan m telling me about your college roommate (I believe) which would explain this.

The only thing I have against Canadians is that they sweeten their ice tea.

this must be waiter lingo or something cause i've never heard of this. either that or i'm sheltered or something.

Hang on, we get sweetened iced tea in Buffalo. Is that not common in the rest of the States? (I like unsweetened anyway.)

(Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've had it unsweetened in Canada. Maybe that's your point.)

to make this more confusing, Washingtonians and Oregonians are called "Canadians" by Los Angelenos, last I was hearing around me over the holidays, meant in good and/or bad ways.

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Fight the real enemy.

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Lest we forget:
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The only thing I have against Canadians is that they sweeten their ice tea.

-- Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:06 (2 hours ago) Link

As a child I was warned before my trip to the US that "...their iced tea is not the same as ours." ie : it sucks. >_<

I am surprised, however, that people can tell the difference between Canadian shows and American ones. I guess this is the result of 'Can-Con' ie : the government's attempt to ensure Canadian culture, shows, music makes it onto the tube.

"oh shit, there are two gay Lebanese yoopers?"

Hahah YES!! I didn't realize you were one of the Hton flock as well!

WTF are you all talking about with the sweet tea, sweetened ice tea is normal everywhere in the American South, I'm pretty darn sure.

I'm an American and I've always drank my iced tea sweetened, but then again, I'm a "Canadian", so what do I know?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_tea

Sweet tea has long been a staple beverage in the American South.

THEY PLANTED IT ON YAZ IN THE GREAT WHITE NORTH

http://www.yazoo.org.uk/photos/jpg/yaz007.jpg

In the American south, iced tea in made from actual tea and sweetened while hot. Ideal.
In the American north, iced tea is made from actual tea and it is left to the individual to sweeten once cool. Not ideal, but works.
In Canada, iced tea is made from the powdered crap. Blech.

This thread making a Canadian want some iced tea.

Iced tea should not be sweetened all, is what I'm saying.

RONG

who DOESN'T sweeten their iced tea? Just the thought of is disgusting

"lol white ppl"?

Unsweetened ice tea tastes like dirt in an acceptable way.

Unsweetened ice tea tastes like dirt in an acceptable way diaper.

fixed

I know I am being all Sean Young about this but unsweetened iced tea is the way to go.

"lol white ppl"?

-- The Brainwasher, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:28 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ that

im gonna go get a sweet tea & mac n cheese for lunch just cuz i can

The only thing I have against Canadians is that they sweeten their ice tea.

-- Nicole, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 04:06 (2 hours ago) Link

I have no idea which way Canadian is being used here!

hhahaha

I like both sweet and unsweet, depending,* but man do some of the Southern varieties go REALLY, REALLY sweet.

(* = Most of the bottled iced teas out there are sweetened in god-awful gut-wrenching ways, so I always like those cold and unsweetened -- although usually in those cases I'm getting that Tea's Tea "Pure Green," not an actual black tea. But I'd take unsweetened black over terrible bottle-tea sweet and fake lemon flavor any day.

Is Canadian the new black in fashion as well, btw?

Sweet tea is super strong on purpose, it's meant to be served over a glassful of ice and gradually watered down. Or least that was my raisin'.

sweet tea IS the south

iced tea is a bad idea in general

I wonder how Albertans eat their greens.

bill miller's = gr8st sweet tea of all times

Ha, yes, I know Southern sweet tea is not a MISTAKE

It's just hardcore, is my point

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