The ILE juggling thread

441?

i can do three balls. i can occasionally make them go outside, rather than inside -- is the latter what you mean by cascade? i can also grab them overhand, but only a couple of times in a row before it all goes kerflooie.

5 balls
4 clubs
3 balls (+50 or so tricks)
2 diabolos
1 ball (i.e. contact)

er except i can't really do four clubs.

I was never the most dedicated - took me four years to learn five balls - and I don't really keep it up any more. Had an intense period of diabolism a year or two ago, learnt a few tricks with two, then gave it up again. I'd like to get back to it but I don't think I have the patience any more - all that stopping and starting, stooping over and picking up.

441 = a pattern in siteswap, a mathematical juggling notation. Not quite as tragic as that might seem - or as complex. http://www.juggling.org/help/siteswap/masses.html

Cascade = normal three (or other odd number) pattern. Reverse cascade = throwing from the outside instead of the inside.

wow ledge! you're the kind of person who must have heard of michael moschen but for those who haven't, you have to see this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yiuI04Ak2w

I hadnt actually seen that before - pretty cool!

He's also the guy who sticks his arms through in front of David Bowie to do all the crystal ball tricks in Labyrinth.

I have seen ian juggle.

2 diabolos! \m/

There was a time when I was getting to 7 balls and 5 clubs.. but not solid at it at all (best run is probably about 20 catches with 7!).

Used to be a right geek about it! Can you do the "shower" (5 1)?

2 in one hand and 441 etc just takes practice i think, it's almost an entirely different skill to cascade patterns.

michael moschen was david bowie's stunt double at the labyrinth!

he was also good at reading upthread!

moschen does this insane thing in the video that clip is taken from, where he's walking through a park with a couple of rubber balls in his hands and sees a park bench. he stops about 10 feet from it and ponders it. he looks at one of the balls in his hand. then he throws the ball, hard, so that it hits the concrete under the bench, bounces up sharply towards the underside of the bench seat, bounces back down to hit the concrete and springs back, right into moschen's hand. then of course he begins juggling this way. it's like, ok, you sold your soul somehwhere along the line.

sorry ledge!

Ah that's an old trick, doesn't need a special throw or anything, just works as if by magic. You can do it yourself if you have a bouncy ball and a kitchen table lying around. xp.

do you still practise, ken?

i hadn't for a couple of years but last summer i taught my friend how to do passing (with balls) and that was so much fun that I actually started to do play again!

club passing is awesome fun - while in uni we got picking up dropped clubs and throwing them back into the pattern down to a fine art.. oh the joys

i can't do a shower, no. i might try learning soon - i guess i need to pick one simple thing to learn and stick with it, really.

Notable lack of response during the American hours...

Some gay experimental shit from Jay Gilligan and pals:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=42QOZUMVrVc
all very tongue-in-cheek.

insane japanese reactions to insane japanese diaboling on insane japanese tv show:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QVJQTE36pHw

WJF! World Juggling Federation! Rooooaaaar!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dGYYjZwz3xc

This is pretty much as it as it gets really.

insane japanese reactions to insane japanese diaboling on insane japanese tv show:

reaction and show are actually chinese! (the dude is japanese though.. and rather good!)

one comment was "woah... is he human????!" lol

gotta love some 7 5 3 mills mess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05nrzWS41vo

I can't even do 4mm - and I really did put some effort into learning it. And, I'm away for the w/end, I've packed some juggling balls for the first time in aaaages... but I've only brought 3! What use is that? Considering I own over 30...

a weekend of rubenstein's revenge?

I can't help noticing there don't seem to be any old jugglers.

i'm sure i remember mart1n sk1dm0r3 mentioning juggling before..

wtf

OK, it's been so long since I've tried to learn anything new that I'm not even sure what I should be juggling with! I've got 3 of what I imagine are 125g thuds, and I seem to have lost everything else over the years. In particular, I'd like something I could practice with in my office at work, and in the interests of not pissing off the people below me/breaking anything, I'm guessing that something like these:

http://www.butterfingers.co.uk/Ko-Bespoke/stockdetails.asp?product=BALLS/LAZYDAZEBEANBAGS/0/LAZ001

or these:

http://www.oddballs.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1190_1376_1526

is the way to go? I seem to remember learning 3 balls with something like these, so I guess they can't be terrible - my only concern is that they might be a lot lighter than I'm used to now. Any thoughts?

Yuk! Too light, horrid shape = nasty to catch and throw. If you really are worried about noise then I guess they would be quieter, otherwise I'd stick with thuds or similar. Those Henry's superior ones look nice.

yeah, you really want something spherical to learn trickier stuff so that they're not awkward to catch.. ideal ones are ones not filled up rock solid so they have a bit of give when they fall (and easier to catch to boot)

Or just throw 'em at a wall a few hundred times until they've softened up a bit.

haha yeah! we played catch with one in school once in the field and by the end i was first a bit upset that it had become tattered.. and then "hey! no this is good!"

this looks pretty tricky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o9nnHK1YG8

what's the most that anyone "normal" can do? 7?

I know an "old" juggler, he's an occasional performer with my dance group-thingy. In his 60s, probably. And he juggles fire, too! I don't know about technical expertise, I'm not sure he was ever RAZOR-SHRP, but kids do love him.

three balls, no tricks.
it was a fleeting childhood passion circa 1996.

what's the most that anyone "normal" can do? 7?

Define normal :)

I think *anyone* could do three. I think most people could do five if they put in the effort. Perhaps it's the same for 7 - I like to think I would be able to learn it. But it would be a hell of a lot of effort, and maybe anyone who's willing to spend that much time on such a monotonous task is already beyond the bounds of normal!

Bought balls. Up to two, and they keep colliding mid-air. 'Er indoors is on the sofa pissing herself.

Smooth scoops with the hands, throwing on the inside and catching on the outside. Concentrate on the throws not the catches, is absolutely u+k. If you have nice throws then the catches will come naturally, if you're reaching for the catches then the throws will go all to hell.

Ta for the tips. Balls still going everywhere.

1. get balls
2. ???
3. juggle

I can juggle standard 3 balls. I haven't done it for a while, but I always found it very relaxing.

I've only ever done 20-something catches of 5 - I don't think I really have more in me. I'm pretty decent with 3, though: Rubensteins & etc, plus loads of homebaked stuff.

AA you should do this, it's really fun.

1. get balls
2. juggle at awesome circus show
3. have hot chick waiting for you in your bed
4. post to ilx

The Gandini Juggling Project at the National Theatre this week:
http://www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/?lid=48852

I'm away for the weekend, bah, will try to catch them on weds tho.

I learned how to juggle (3 balls) at a renaissance fair years ago. I can do it pretty well.

what would be the next steps in a juggler's education (5 balls?) and how large are the difficulty margins?

can you do tricks? learn tricks. learn 4 before 5! it's 'just' two in one hand, in each hand. if 3 takes about a week or two to learn, then 4 might take a month or two. 5 is a longer term project. if yer very dedicated it might take a few months. i am very undedicated so it took a few years.

The Gandini Juggling Project at the National Theatre this week

NEXT week. Idiot.

I've started to try and juggle again. I've been able to juggle 3 balls at various points in my life but never really practiced enough to be able to do it for any amount of time. These days I can go for about a minute before the whole system fails.

Really, all of this is an attempt to start joggling. I think joggling is the future for me.