BBC beta c or d?

why do people like the clock? it's totally pointless. otherwise i like.

What's wrong with pointless? I like it too. Reminds me of the old BBC clock before the news, which is maybe the point?

I like the colour but i'm not sure about the font. And do i need a link to CBeebies?

Reminds me of the old BBC clock before the news

All that's missing is the globe going round...

Everything seemed a bit too 'big' and clunky, but I did like the clock too.

The point is its infinite customizability - you can choose the colour/font/whether or not to have cbeebies or sport or whatever. I hate it!

It's like post-myspace web design :(

why do see the choice/customizability as bad? they've done it quite well

the positive reactions to the clock (to the extent where it's the most noticeable thing/seen as most noteworthy thing) are quite fascinating to me.

you can choose the colour/font/whether or not to have cbeebies or sport or whatever

How do you do the fonts?
I've got rid of the cbeebies and sport.

What is the point of the big picture? If you click on the words underneath you get different coloured pages but that seems to be about it.

bearing in mind working on something like this would be a dream job for me (xp)

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OK, I see 'display options'!

It's cos the clock is well animated, complete with dampeners and everything. You can imagine it ticking.

Not played with it yet, but yeh, I like the design so far. I might get better/worse the more I play.

I actually think Facebook does this kind of modular design a bit more elegantly. I know it's a beta, but it feels very clunky to me.

Another thing I like is the photo changing when you move your cursor over the different stories. As for the clock, blueski, I guess I like the analogue nature of it in a hi-tech context.

http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/idents/BBC1clock68.jpg
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Nice, Ned

if i could delete the clock i would. i don't need tokenist retro-charm on a homepage that's otherwise representing the modern.

I actually think Facebook does this kind of modular design a bit more elegantly.

maybe but facebook look is quite dismal and this creates a wild balance once people have added SuperWall and all the other shite

also Facebook needs to be as wide as this

I don't mind the clock but I hate the way they have squashed it in amid all that navigation text : (

We're not actively seeking feedback about the Homepage Beta at present
If you have a question, please read our FAQ below which you may find helpful.

To send a comment or question about the BBC website, please visit the bbc.co.uk Feedback page. To make a general comment about the BBC, please visit our About the BBC website.

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to send us their feedback about Homepage Beta. We've made a few improvements already and are now taking some time to review all your comments and suggestions and work out how best to incorporate these, as well as fixing bugs.

Here are some common points that were raised in your feedback:

The main promo area should be smaller, moveable and/or customisable
A greater degree of personalisation for the modules (eg. to have your own team's news in the sports box, or to select your preferred radio stations)
The text is too big and doesn't resize gracefully
The colour changes are distracting and unnecessary
Too much scrolling needed
You'd like to be able to switch between the retro clock and a digital equivalent

definitely agree with the scrolling too much, the whole page is far too vast. When you resize the text to smaller it doesn't change any of the spacing making it look ridic.

like the new weather symbols

it is quite overwhelming, at first anyway, and i'm not sure how keen i am on the tonal shading of everything. agree about the clock. analog always seems a bit friendlier.

and also, "Sex with dead model 'was wrong'", in case anyone was wondering.

confirmation at last

That murder case is probably the funniest in British legal history.

challenging opinion

rubbish on a small screen ie 800x600

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What, sex with a dead woman? You've got a strange idea of the funnies, Dom.

Anyway for laughs surely Mohammed Al-Fayed is firing on all cylinders at the moment.

rubbish on a small screen ie 800x600

what % of web users run that res now?

That murder case is probably the funniest in British legal history.

definately worth being ripped off for an episode of law & order

"I didn't kill a woman and sexually assault her still warm corpse. I was just going for a wander one day when I saw a woman not moving on the floor, and decided to have sex with her"

what % of web users run that res now? In 2007: 14% :0

one being me on my ageing work laptop that makes my eyes go funny at any higher res.

you resolution fascist.

"I didn't kill a woman and sexually assault her still warm corpse. I was just going for a wander one day when I saw a woman not moving on the floor, and decided to have sex with her"

Yeah, it is quite funny when you put it like that.

oh hang on, that whole being able to move the sections around is chuffing ace. i'm warming to it.

is that a quote from same article? hope not

LOLZ

As someone who has BBC News as their homepage anyway, I think this is great, I like being able to customise it like this. I don't particularly want my homepage to be pretty, I want it to be functional and this suits quite well.

But yeah, that's a nice clock.

i wish they'd update the news page, it's looked like shit for years

Guardian finally got round to that the other week

the only thing i don't like is that grey "customise" bar is ALWAYS THERE on VERY PRIME REAL ESTATE when presumably you'll use it like, two or three times ever?

News has nothing to do with this, they're a completely different team

btw:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta/object/clock/tiny.swf

the only thing i don't like is that grey "customise" bar is ALWAYS THERE on VERY PRIME REAL ESTATE when presumably you'll use it like, two or three times ever?

yeah i hate this too

OMG yes!
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Ooh it's just changed colour of its own volition (dispropotionate excitement on my part, I know)

please to tell me how to make that clock my desktop background kthxbye

print screen (unless you want it to still move)

can it be made into a dashboard widget?

yes it can but it's enormous. how do you edit these things?

^^^don't quote this out of context now

why not buy a real clock?

(and thanks!)

I had a few problem with it when they moved to the new one and I cursed it in a similar fashion to yourself (with added "why oh why did they change it when it worked before") but it's been fine for a while.

We are talking about the one on this page I presume?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/

I find the new map slightly scary actually - the rain always looks like a flood...this is tomorrow at 12pm - light rain...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3485816968_7a7f5df7cb.jpg

xp yeah that one. i just get the 'due to technical problems' message instead of the map.

i right clicked and i checked i had flash installed, says i have.

okay i'm a stupid goose..

seems it now defaults to 'Atlantic' as a location.

i just changed it to british isles, and now it works

i apologise, for being anywhere near a computer.

hate the new weather page design, bring back the old symbols etc.

I know it's 2.30am but

Nameserver trace for www.bbc.co.uk:

* Looking for who is responsible for root zone and followed i.root-servers.net.
* Looking for who is responsible for uk and followed ns4.nic.uk.
* Looking for who is responsible for bbc.co.uk and followed ns1.thls.bbc.co.uk.

Nameservers for www.bbc.co.uk:

* ns1.thls.bbc.co.uk returned (SERVFAIL)
* ns1.bbc.co.uk returned (SERVFAIL)
* ns1.thdo.bbc.co.uk returned (SERVFAIL)
* ns1.rbsov.bbc.co.uk returned (SERVFAIL)

yeah just noticed it's not there

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/news.bbc.co.uk

Still not working for me. Endtimes people.

what will i do without finding more people in afganistan have been bombed and irrelevant football gossip? ;_;

It's back up but very slow.

I bet it was Democracy Live that did for it.

it was one (1) router going down that did it o_O

should all be fixed now

New homepage with ADDED news tracking.
http://beta.bbc.co.uk/

that's "Topic Tracker" to you

also, no clock

Searching for 'Leicester' only seems to give me the choice to track 'Red Leicester'. I know not much goes on in my neck of the woods but that seems slightly narrow.

i agree it's not presented well - it seems like you ought to be able to craft whatever query you want and it should find it.

We know the homepage clock was popular, reminding us of a bygone era when people drank tea instead of frappuccino-latte-espressos.
I am still in this bygone era goddamnit

http://news.bbc.co.uk vs http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ ?

I don't like all the different colours.

It's a complete mess and there's less information on the front page. What were they thinking?

looks good to me

except for this:

font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif;

smdh ;_;

I like it. There's a bit less information but what's there is much easier to read. How is it a mess? You've got major news, then fluff, then sport -- and then features down the right. Drill into subsections using the top nav.

What I don't like is the big dark purple box of "My News" or whatever. Will anyone use that? Especially when you can't drag it into a more useful position?

The biggest "wha" to my mind is that it doesn't look anything like the design of www.bbc.co.uk - and doesn't make use of any of the user interface innovations there (editable categories, draggable areas, etc)

Also, it hadn't changed in approx 50000 years and was looking it.

I don't know the explanation about Helvetica Neue.. def seems kind of weird

gross

It feels awkwardly proportioned and a bit wonky - why is everything so big? Most of the links and information are well below the fold - why continue to hide sport all the way down there and not have a link at the top? Everything in that right hand column is way bigger than it needs to be. It just doesn't feel very usable, especially compared to the last one, like a website built out of Duplo.

I'll get used to it

how does a new military plane article come under Technology, but a new spy plane article come under Sci/Env ?

tee hee

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/domesticHP_05SEP2010_1336.jpg

I'm..... just... hmm

http://beta.bbc.co.uk/

I'm all for the the-updated-web-interface-that-you-find-confusing-and-ugly-and-annoying-now-is-one-to-which-you-will-soon-enough-become-accustomed mindset but that's shite

tbf it is really really hard to try to represent avenues into everything that lies behind www.bbc.co.uk

oh I'm sure

but whatever the solution, i don't think this is it. my eye really doesn't know where to go, the whole thing feels stressful and jangly

I've only just gotten used to the current one, this latest overhaul looks horrible. I particularly don't like the large arrows, and it feels like I can't leave my cursor anywhere for fear of java nonsense.

I'm gonna miss my "Weird and Wonderful" and "On This Day" widgets ;_;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/

GAAAHHHH HOW IS THIS HELPFUL

just pictures... squares

the design leaves something to be desired but i really like how it shows you what's just been played, and how you can rewind to like an hour ago or whatever

curious..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/index.shtml

rtc, shit yeah, it's so chaotic

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/help/homepage/feedback/

it makes sense now. at the weekend we loaded up iplayer on the playstation, and lo, it was this new 'beta' design.

was wondering what on earth was going on ..

suspect the whole use of space is designed for widescreen net ready tvs that will be bought in the run up to crimbo/olympics etc

think i read somewhere that it's something to do with optimisation for touchscreen tablets, hence all those boxes & sideways scrolling for flipping through

oh, of course .. that makes perfect sense now that you mention it.

http://beta.bbc.co.uk/radio4

speaking of widescreen swipey biz