It's sort of weird because, even though the weepie or "woman's movie" has sort of become accepted as one of the great Hollywood classic sub-genres, right up there with the western and the musical and film noir (or at least it has if you listen to people like Scorsese), whenever the subject comes up it's always all about Sirk, and maybe to a lesser degree Ophuls (though most of the Ophuls I've seen doesn't really fit in with the genre - too artsy, too european, they're costume dramas if anything. Caught certainly works, tho); why has no one else been auteurized? Who deserves to be? Is there any research into great movies of this stripe being done whatsoever?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:25 (eighteen years ago)
You've Got Mail
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
Nicole Kidman and the Prosthetic Nose
Terms of Endearment
(^^^seriously!)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)
why has no one else been auteurized
Maybe cause (Sirk aside) this kind of film is more associated with the actress (Bette Davis, Joan Crawford etc.) than the director?
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)
The Piano
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:32 (eighteen years ago)
Terms of Enderment kills me every single time. The scene where deathbed ridden Debra Winger fixes her make-up and hair to talk to her kids? Omg.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:34 (eighteen years ago)
Endearment. whoops.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
really? I think the cancer thing comes really abruptly and sorta clumsily. Shirley's hilarious in it tho, she was the one who deserved the Oscar.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
Anybody read the Terms.. novel? How did McMurtry handle the cancer subplot?
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, you're right - Shirley's amazing and Jack too! I've never really thought that about the cancer thing - I'd have to watch again with that in mind.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
More weepy Shirley (with sudden death as a costar)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RTKNJ2JXL._SS500_.jpg
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:42 (eighteen years ago)
hmmm surprised I've never seen that one! Wife is a huge Shirley fan.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
i don't care how clumsy it is. when debra winger tells her son that in a few years he's going to remember that she bought him a baseball glove even though they were broke, i cry buckets. i'm actually starting to tear up now.
/hysterical female
― lauren, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)
Brief Encounter Letters From an Unknown Woman
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
kitty foyle
― lauren, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
I watched Terms (in its entirety for the first time) a few years ago and was enjoying the breezy love-hate relationship plot rolling along and then SUDDENLY I HAVE CANCER! And then a couple scenes later she's dead. Pacing-wise it comes out of nowhere.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:51 (eighteen years ago)
My goodness, I didn't realize this was a whole genre!
― Laurel, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)
Whaddaya know, I just found out Some Came Running will finally be out on DVD in the States this May.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)
cool!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:58 (eighteen years ago)
That's the part - exactly.
Confession - just the theme music from that movie has been known to make me a little misty eyed.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:59 (eighteen years ago)
If the movie works at all, it's thanks to Winger; she and MacLaine have zero chemistry (please don't say, "THAT'S THE POINT").
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:04 (eighteen years ago)
Something to Live For and No Sad Songs for Me are worth checking out
― flappy bird, Friday, 30 August 2019 06:08 (six years ago)