Tell Me What To Buy (March)

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The usual rules apply - one book, one CD - first to five votes gets bought BUT this month I'm applying genre restrictions as threatened so what I want recommended are:

- a crime novel

- a hip-hop CD

Thanks!

(I've still not found Slayer cheap enough by the way!)

Tom, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime novel: "A hell of a woman"-Jim Thompson

Hip-hop CD: "Tha streetz iz a mutha"-Kurupt

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hannibal haha. OK not Hannibal. I wuv Miss Smilla's Feeling For Snow, but am alone i believe in this.

mark s, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Read it, and so far yes you are heh.

Tom, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: I've still not found Slayer cheap enough by the way!

Mr Internet Analyst you must be aware of this easyValue.com CD price comparison so use it !

DJ Martian, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if motherless brooklyn counts as a crime novel, you should get that! as for hip-hop, um, i just got the last beanie sigel album and i like it a lot.

dave k, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Patience DJ M patience. I don't do Interweb shopping anyway because I dont have a credit card.

Tom, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if you don't already have it, can you get "scorpion" by eve and tell me about it?

di, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jonathan Lethem's Gun, With Occasional Music. Not like I've read it or anything. It just sounds fun. I'm sure Ned can tell us more about its reputation in sf circles....wait a minute. His Motherless Brooklyn won some big national award, didn't it? That one, then. God, love that title. (Yes, it appears to be about a detective, too.)

I could be naughty and suggest G-Sides (tee-hee!) but yr probably better off settling for the "new" N.E.R.D. album, maybe.

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

crime book: jason lutes - the fall

rap cd : biggie - ready to die (not maybe my first choice for tom but i know this'll get four more votes quick)

ethan, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy crapcakes, Batman! I didn't even see Mr. K's recommendation before I posted. I think MB is fated to be the choice now.

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Novel: Hardy Boys - A Figure In Hiding.

Rap CD: Very impressed with mr. Bourke's choice, and I second it loudly....."Trylogy" still gets much play in this household - perhaps one of the most intense songs ever recorded, period.

Ramosi, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Motherless Brooklyn is excellent and a good intro to the world of J Lethem. As for hip hop CD I vote for Lil Wayne's Get off the Corner.

adam, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean Lights Out.

adam, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sure Ned can tell us more about its reputation in sf circles...

? Never heard of him until now!

I have a longstanding fondness for Caleb Carr's The Alienist, which is savage social critique and distinctly *non*-rose-colored- glasses vision of turn of the previous century NYC dressed up as mystery and costume drama.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

? Never heard of him until now!

Well, that probably DOES speak volumes about Lethem's sf reputation anyhow! :)

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Kurupt has my fav song at the mo, "At It Again" (tho that's on Space Boogie not Streetz). So him or Eve, tell me about 'er. Book: Black Dahlia.

AP, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I will put another vote behind Lethem although my personal fave is As She Climbed Across the Table, but that's not under the detective guise like Motherless Brooklyn and Gun With Occasional Music are. I have no opinion on this "rap music" the kids are listening to these days.

bnw, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CD: Mystikal -- Tarantula. You won't be disappointed. Two of the best love songs ever.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i recommend you read 'Killer the confessions of carl panzram' but i guess it would be out of print. i know you meant like jim thompson or something. crimes novels are all the same and all good except dashiel hammett, he's better.

maryann, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this really weird crime novel is one that Queneau wrote under a pseudonym trying to make money - he claimed to be an english guy i think as french people don't seem to think french people can write crime novels. well maybe they can't because this one was really strange. but some french guy wrote an apparently really good crime novel under a pseudonym - oh yeah i just looked it up Boris Vian claiming to be a black guy called Vernon Sullivan, the book's called 'I spit on your graves.' It'd be so great if you read that then you could tell me about it.

maryann, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought 'they shoot horses, don't they' was really great too. in case you don't know it's got nothing to do with horses or the west. i'm just telling you because that put me off. but i always make dumb assumptions and you probably don't. it's about a dance marathon. a SINISTER dance marathon. it includes great lines like, 'i'm sick of the moving pictures, let's go sit in a park and hate people or something.'

does anyone know whether horace mccoy wrote anything else good? and whether that's the author's name?

maryann, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i also recommend this really scary story called The Black Spider by Jeremias Gotthelf, and 'The Adversary - A True Story of Monstrous Deception' by Emmanuel Carrere. Witold Gombrowicz wrote two novellas that are like poetic crime novels and kind of funny, really bizarre, called 'Cosmos' and 'Pornografia.'

maryann, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You've probably got this one, but:

CD: "Stankonia"---OutKast

Definitely worthy to a gal who hadn't listened to rap since the ripe old age of 10.

Novel: "2nd Chance" (James Patterson)

I'm halfway through it already. It features a brainy protagonist, who happens to be female. I've never really been a mystery reader, but love this one!

Nichole Graham, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hip hop cd: Arythmia by Anti-Pop Consortium but that's not out till later in the month, 'It's very interesting' by Paul Barman, The Deltron 3030 album is good if you don't have it already.

Ed, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CD - Cannibal Ox "The ColD Vein". crime novels i know nothing about i'm afraid sorry!

katie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, I would gladly make you a copy of the Slayer CD. It rocks! Hip Hop CD? BASEHEAD.

Nathalie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If it's classic crime fiction you're after, try The Nine Wrong Answers by John Dickson Carr, or The Beast Must Die by Nicholas Blake. Miami Blues by Charles Willaford would be a good bet too.

John Mc, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The new New Flesh LP is very good, or there's a hot-off-the-press mix CD featuring (mostly) artists from the Braintax / Taskforce / Mud Fam axis called "Louis Slipperz £10 Bag": it's great.

The closest thing I've read to a crime novel in ages is "I'm Off" by Jean Echenoz. Good, though.

Tim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime novel

- anything by George P Pelecanos especially THE BIG BLOWDOWN.

- La Donna Detroit by Jon a Jackson.

- Of Tender Sin by David Goodis.

- Blue Eyes by Jerome Chaykin.

- MURDER ME DEAD by DAVID LAPHAM - comic - now out in graphic novel. BUY THIS NOW Y'ALL. It's as good a piece of modern noir trash as all of the above, but it's got pitchers so yer brain don't have to work as hard!

CD

- Blood Stained Lovers by The Folk Orchestraor

- Mum and Dad's debut album, out soon. can't remember title as I only have a CDR promo.

misterjones, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Raymond Chandler ~ The Long Goodbye
Beanie Sigel ~ The Reason

gareth, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd second the Eve album. I like it lots (even though - as is the way with all these things - it is too long).

Crime: Well I've recently enjoyed The Skull Mantra by Elliot Pattison - a good dissection of modern Chinese/Tibettan politics with a distinctly Buddhist slant whilst containing a rollicking good set of ritual murders. Everyone should give it a go (and Mark S - I like Smilla - though it loses its way a touch before the end. I like literary know-it-alls).

Pete, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

crime book = One of the Daniel Pennc books set in Paris, sorry can't remember what any of them are called but they are all ace.

chris, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

4 votes for Lethem so far, dont know if any other crime books have more than one - and 3 each for Eve and Kurupt.

Tom, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And 2 for Beanie Sigel.

Tom, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

another for Kurupt

chris, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime book, Run man run- Chester Himes.

Hip hop, ooh I dunno, hasn't Warren G got a new CD out at long last?

Billy Dods, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

New suggestion, not listed by Tom but still *very* much worth his and your while......KOREAN MASSAGE, SHADY EDITION.

Remember 2 weeks ago how I told you my chiro center also has that adorable Brazilian masseuse, my masseuse? Well, she's been giving me the awesome hot flat rocks treatment + kneading weekly and I feel stupendamundo....but that's as far as she goes because the place is a legit medical place and plus she's married to some muscly gorilla......drat. But remember how I also talked about my friend from grade school who was hooked on Korean massage? (you know where THIS is going) Well, I met up with this guy tonight, played a little NHLPA 2k1 and ate cannelloni and baguette halves at his crib, then he brought up the Korean massage parlor....AGAIN.....he asks me, wanna go?.....I go, nah, I don't pay for P, that's sorry ass shit, I EARN my play, my man.......he goes, it's not P! trust me!....i still refuse.....we play a little more NHLPA......he goes, look, you're my dogg and all, how about I treat you to a session......I'm still iffy, I mean it's not P but a handjob's pretty close......but after we smoke some L's I give in.....i love free shit...

So he takes me to something something salon....it looks shady from the outside, you have to take the stairs from the back alley entrance....it's above a gangstery looking asian restaurant......you walk in, it's cozy and everything's pink and white, fish tanks even......older korean lady up front looks at my buddy like a longtime friend, they chat it up (i think he's saying he's referring a new guy, me, so she cuts him a deal).....we can go at the same time, but my friend wants me to have the best experience, with the girl he likes.....Hae-Kyun (i think)......he even insists I go first....I'm like, you my dogg squared......I go the 2nd room on the left and the older woman asks me if I want tea.....charming!.....I say yes but I'm nervous and shaky and dont drink a drop....I drop the shirt n draws and get the towel on.....I've never been with an asian girl.....Hae walks in.....easy there six gun......rosy cheeks, pillowy lips, milky ass skin tone, auburn-dyed hair....*diesel* body.....wearing just a plain black cotton skirt and clingy cotton top......speaks perfect accent-less english in a dry sexy sassy voice, which perturbs me because she sounds like the stylin hipster asian girls I know that intimidate me with their fucking excellent haircuts and rx7's....

Check it, I knew this beforehand, but it still amused me -- "massage" doesn't happen anywhere NEAR this place.....since my friend paid up front, she drops her top, rakes my chest lightly for a few minutes and coos.......then goes right for my midsection with oil in hand......my brain is a raging fuzzbox....I contemplate confirming she is of age but immediately scoff and laugh at my self inwardly....

about 2 mins later I'm done. eyes were closed entire time but opened them a little when I busted....shot about 2 feet into the air, no jokes.....she wipes me off and asks if I "feel better".....I go, "that was DOPE!" and start giggling maniacally.....she grins devilishly and shows me to the shower.....

So there......a truly radical experience......I wont go back unless someone treats me again or it's a very special occasion I'm celebrating, I'm still holding onto my principles (this will annoy my friend and the old lady to no end because they made my session happen in hopes I became a reg)......but damn, going rates are fiddy bucks for what I got, 3/4 what I paid for that stupid boring indoor bungee jump I did last fall......I recommend all unattached dudes out there try it just once. Word.

Ramosi, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I won't even ask you to buy...but DOWNLOAD Lazy by X-Press 2.

Oh and have a look at Hot Press, my whoring of my writing abilities as an effort to get the voucher for a music shop from the star letter has finally paid off.

An album..........I don't know, I've been broke, but the Stooges Fun House might be worth your while if you don't have it already and you're still buying older stuff. Of course there's a good likelihood you do have it.

Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, BTW, when I got out the shower, I was alone....I got dressed and was about to walk out, but then I noticed and picked up that tea, by then lukewarm, and slammed it down....good ass tea....haha, you know when I capitalize on free shit, I capitalize on free shit!

I don't know about the new Warren G - Return Of The REgulator, but the last one, I Want It All, was excellent - the jawn with Crucial Conflict was awesome....but my recommendation is still StreeTz Is A Mutha.

Ramosi, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime Novel:

'The Black Dahlia' by James Ellroy. (I've still not found Slayer cheap enough by the way!)

INVERTED SNOB

N., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime Novel: Motherless Brooklyn, Motherless Brooklyn, Motherless Brooklyn, Motherless Brooklyn.

That makes five so buy it already! EAT ME BAILEY!

Simeon, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or Run by Douglas Winter

Simeon, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Motherless Brooklyn it is.

Tom, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh hey I've read Motherless Brooklyn. Yes!

Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As I am annoyed that you've knocked _Ender's Game_ out of the running, I will recommend that you get a MA$E album.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll add my vote for the cold vein and toss Run Come Save Me by Roots manuva in there, that was a must have of last year for me.

Ed, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bizarre ride II the pharcyde

ambrose, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Cold Vein, yeah (but cannot believe you don't already have it) (then again, I'm also surprised you don't have a credit card).

Jeff W, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Motherless Brooklyn is classic, totally unique. I'll second "Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde" but only cos I've got it on c-thru red&blue vinyl. And has the only occurence of the word 'discombobulated' in hip-hop (well as far as I know).

Simeon, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what maryann said - all the same/all good/except hammett is even better - well she's prob. read more like 'literary' stuff & less trashy stuff than me but i think that's pretty much the case - (+ btw yeah you shd read that carl panzram bk if you ever see it, i reckon too)...no-one's mentioned yet i don't think : Ross MacDonald, John D. MacDonald, & esp. ELMORE LEONARD, you find those in junk shops etc all the time & they're real good.

hip-hip rekid - i dunno, ain't bought any for 4-eva...ummm since the last foxy brown album maybe...that's good tho...yeah but i also like ronan's classification of "Fun House" as a hip-hop album so i'll approve that suggestion.

duane, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ma$e? Does he even make albums anymore since he went born-again Christian? He's a preacher now, I thought.

Ender's Shadow.

geeta, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll second biggie's 'ready to die'.

toby, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Elmore Leonard is crime fiction. No-one else comes close.

Simeon, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I also like ronans classification of fun house as a hiphop album

I was hoping noone would notice. I mean er.......duh...of course it is. Still thats 2 votes for those godfathers of hiphop the Stooges.

Ronan, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ma$e? Does he even make albums anymore since he went born-again Christian? He's a preacher now, I thought.

This doesn't stop Tom from running out and buying the last album he put out. Come on people, HELP A BROTHER OUT HERE.

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(Yes, I am an obnoxious twat.)

Dan Perry, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

harlem world is half blaze-half yawn but i'll rep for ma$e til i die.

ethan, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(try aligning Dan's last post in the middle of your screen, then put your pointer on the scroll bar, left click and move the mouse up and down very fast)

Jeff W, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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