A Hamlet Poll

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear, 5
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come 4
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub; 3
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, 2
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay, 2
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; 2
But that the dread of something after death, 1
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, 1
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep; 1
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks 1
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, 0
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now! 0
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn 0
No traveller returns, puzzles the will 0
With this regard their currents turn awry, 0
And makes us rather bear those ills we have 0
Than fly to others that we know not of? 0
And enterprises of great pith and moment 0
And thus the native hue of resolution 0
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons 0
To be, or not to be: that is the question: 0
To grunt and sweat under a weary life, 0
When he himself might his quietus make 0
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer 0
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, 0
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; 0
No more; and by a sleep to say we end 0
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation 0
Must give us pause: there's the respect 0
That makes calamity of so long life; 0
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, 0
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely, 0
The insolence of office and the spurns 0
That patient merit of the unworthy takes, 0
Be all my sins remember'd.0


Eazy, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.foutz.net/images/hamlet.jpg

Eazy, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

No Del Close, no credibility.

jaymc, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

"For in that sleep of death what dreams may come".

Most of these are hard to vote for cos of the enjambment tho.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

"The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune"

snoball, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

"I will now play "Bohemian Rhapsody" on a Dyson"

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

"Thus conscience does make cowards of us all"

Hamlet OTM

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

x2

Eazy, Friday, 7 March 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

"ay, there's the rub"

weatheringdaleson, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

"Thus conscience does make cowards of us all"

Hamlet OTM

I just saw the film "Deterrence" on the box. Taken out of context in this way, I'm thinking that while Hamlet's statement is factually correct, I'm happy to disagree with it if "coward" is a perjorative. And i suspect Shakespeare's making that point, especially when you consider how the play adapts the morality of a revenge play based on more complicated/real problems.

Within context, it's ambiguous what's being advocated. Suicide is the brave option, the right resolution, perverted by humane fear, or by the strictures of religion (prospect of hell). The two 'thuses' make me think that, because the honourable path of suicide is checked by thought, this introduces doubt into any other enterprise whose justice of whose motive might be questioned. The death of an ethic whhich was not subjected to endless scrutiny (historically simplistic of course, but that's not the point here).
There's no reason to think Shakespeare agrees with Hamlet of course, so this I see this as an examination of someone whose ideas are particularly muddled and adolescent, just as he's coming to question their validity and his own reasons for holding them. 'The question' is 'whether tis nobler in the mind', ie what feels purer philosophically. This is a guy whose experience of reality is limited, he's been sheltered. What Would Socrates Do? is probably what he means.
Once again, all out of context, cos obviously he's ostensibly seen a real ghost, from the depths of hell, who's told him to avenge him.
That's kind of the parody of the revenge convention, i would have thought. The fact that we get this real stuff in the same play as that gallimaufery is, purely down to the fact that it's Shakespeare, and he's amazing.

Frogman Henry, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)

As Noodle says, pretty hard to vote for a line, but "The pangs of despised love, the law's delay," while pretty emo, is also eternal.

Frogman Henry, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:29 (seventeen years ago)

did anyone else have to memorize this in hs?

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 March 2008 04:30 (seventeen years ago)

no, but i memorized iago's "i am not what i am" speech

elmo argonaut, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

Not in or for school, but after Branagh's version, I decided to read the play through with the film still fresh in my head. I have since memorized a good chunk of the play.

Elmo, I just memorized Othello's "t'was strange, t'was passing strange" speech - not too difficult!

weatheringdaleson, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

Henry OTM, I read Hamlet as a satire on Revenge Tragedy, amongst other things.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:10 (seventeen years ago)

I memorised this just for laughs. It's fun to go through when you're bored. I can't vote for a lint although the winner goes to And thus the native hue of resolution/ Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought

The Wayward Johnny B, Friday, 7 March 2008 09:50 (seventeen years ago)

Did he just say 'fardels'?

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 7 March 2008 09:56 (seventeen years ago)

Damn straight he said 'fardels'. Wanna make sumpin' of it?

Aimless, Friday, 7 March 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

shuffling ftw

darraghmac, Friday, 7 March 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

fardels ftw

gff, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

anyone else watch tennant and co? (what a rubbish english student i am, having studied all bloody shakespeare other than hamlet, or have previously seen it performed. my only knowledge was the lion king storyline i guess.) i thought it was terrific. it was unerring to see many long monologues performed straight into the camera on television but i think the way it was done made it all the more satisfying. wish they settled on a time settling though; i thought it was going to be like the baz lurhman with all the guns at the start, but it still ends in a sword fight etc. etc.

glad i already own the third man aswell too. damn bbc scheduling the things i actually want to watch against each other.

eagle tears was a popular drink and it still is (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 26 December 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

no "how all occasions do inform against me" no cred

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 26 December 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)

Saw a bit of it, thought he was playing it too close to the way he plays the Doctor. Also, needed to get his act together and put some shoes on, the fucking hippy.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 27 December 2009 02:31 (sixteen years ago)

Hamlet = a fucking hippy, so you have to play him that way

Domnesty International (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 December 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

A hippy? Are you sure?

'tza you, santa claus? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

Hard to see that there is a link there so http://sub-zero.mit.edu/bakunin/hamlet.html

'tza you, santa claus? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2009 04:11 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

tony richardson's hamlet on tcm right now, nicol williamson is a revelation - the best hamlet i've seen by far

balls, Sunday, 30 June 2013 05:30 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

Andrew Scott nailing the fuck out of Hamlet on the TV atm

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

can't wait til he offs that twat Polonius

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0SbVFxl64A

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 31 March 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)

I've got Hamlet on in the living room, Joshua fight build-up Acestreamed on the kitchen PC, with 5 live on in the background. What a house of culture!

calzino, Saturday, 31 March 2018 20:40 (seven years ago)


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