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How exactly did Euroness become associated (in the US) with notions of weakness or effeminacy? Does it have a long history?

Alba, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

Inability to finish our own world wars.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

Also, ideas about the vigour of the new world as opposed to the supposed decadence of the old world.

Neil S, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:12 (seventeen years ago)

Queasy about other countries torturing prisoners of war.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

Mollycoddling the poor, elderly and sick.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

Oh let them be. They think they're number one at everything. How cute.

StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

drinking coffee out of little eensy weensy cups

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

having little eensy weensy navies with eensy weensy aircraft carriers

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

Do Americans consider Germans weak and/or effeminate? Or Scandinavians? Slavs?

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

are we talking about the people or the cars?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

Wearing bowler hats and dancing with chimney sweeps = mad gay

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:20 (seventeen years ago)

Isn't it more British (or rather English) = effeminate but not weak and French = weak AND effeminate and who cares about the rest?

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:21 (seventeen years ago)

to be honest, i think europeans also think american men are kind of effeminate, no? pampered mother-lovers with their remote-controlled television and indoor toilets.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

no, Europe is all weak sauce, just because you speak American doesn't make you special

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

drinking coffee out of little eensy weensy cups

Well that would be because our coffee actually tastes like coffee, meaning that don't need to drink as much of it.

Jules: Mmmm! Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit! Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET shit on us! What flavor is this?
Jimmie: Knock it off, Julie.
Jules: (pause) What?
Jimmie: I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping she buys SHIT. I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

I tend to think of American men as being either Jocks or Nerds.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

There is a perception that the women wear the trousers, sorry, pants in America

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

lol tasting your coffee, is that like tasting your beer?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

European beer tastes, and unlike most American beer it also contains alcohol...

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

listen, we're too busy running the show to sit around enjoying stuff. that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with tasting what you drink or being proud of your food or whatever, just, you know, you wouldn't have time for that if you were actually responsible for anything besides art or whatever

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

Many European nations too pussy to even try and fuck up Iraq.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

(xpost) So this whole "guardian of the free world" thing is a cover to distract attention away from your weak beer?

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, go immerse yourself in some inconsequential aesthetic hotness or whatever, that's cool, we like that sort of thing ourselves once in a while, but if we took half as much vacation as you guys the whole planet would probably crash into the sun

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

Who cares how strong yr beer is when you invented crystal meth?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

Inability to enjoy motorsports occuring on a perfectly round track clear sign of homosexuality

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

(xxpost) Well as long as you guys have that whole crash-into-the-sun thing handled, I'll think I'll go and have some tasty European food. Because here in Europe it's lunchtime, rather than save-the-world time...

(xpost) Noodle, the Germans invented crystal meth.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

motorsports

I mis-read that as watersports.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:33 (seventeen years ago)

nothing weak about dem germans.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

Actually it was the Japanese, now I've checked. Good work dudes.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

Noodle, the Germans invented crystal meth

Of course, but then Americans, Germans, not much difference there, really

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

Americans invented house music, but (aside from a couple of hit songs) only in Europe did it spread outside specialized gay clubs into the mainstream.

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

http://italophiles.com/images/benigni.jpg

mulla atari, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Aren't Germans the biggest ethnic group in the USA?

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

tuomas that argument is strong evidence for europeans being secretly gay doh.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

Meanwhile all your best rappers are girls

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

NASCAR is the biggest ethnic group in America.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

Meanwhile all your best rappers are girls

-- El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:37 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Turbo D was a man

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Wasn't he American?

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

tuomas that argument is strong evidence for europeans being secretly gay doh.

That was what I was trying to say.

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:42 (seventeen years ago)

who's side are you on!?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

No European team has ever won the World Series.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

tuomas is on the side of truth, obv

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

Although only one American has won the World's Strongest Man title since 1982.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

No European has ever been the world's champion and held the world's record at sport and math

Tom D., Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

And when I took our Joel to see the wrestling last month, all the Americans got whupped.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

And where are the great European roller derby players, huh? NOWHERE.

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

euro hardmen live like an average of 22 years longer than american hardmen, clear evidence of softer conditions

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

Did anyone mention unshaved female armpits yet? How are they weak?

StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAHF153_8x10-No356~Davey-Boy-Smith-Posters.jpg

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

(xpost) Is that Burt Renoulds or the guy from Dukes of Hazzard who goes "gucci gucci goo"?

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1921/bscap0019ej1.jpg

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

xpost looks like Burt being pwned by Larry to me.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/C56588~Mike-Tyson-and-Frank-Bruno-Posters.jpg

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1921/bscap0019ej1.jpg

^^^lol at this and Mourinho getting more boos than any of the wrestlers that evening

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 12:58 (seventeen years ago)

Jose looks well heterosexual in that picture.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.foxnews.com/images/261160/2_62_020807_cowell_abdul.jpg

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

Who are those?

(x-post)

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

Madlib, Paul Wall, RuPaul

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

The guy on the left looks just like the guy on the right, 30 years older and fatter.

(x-post)

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah, RuPaul is American, isn't she?

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

There's one other noticable difference. xp

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:05 (seventeen years ago)

What is it?

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:06 (seventeen years ago)

European sock-puppets better than US ones.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

Blame Chaki for that

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

He has been lowering the average a bit, trudat.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

http://epguides.com/DempseyandMakepeace/logo.jpg

DavidM, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:09 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe you people could also bother to tell who the folks in these pics are?

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

To be fair there aren't two members of the Young Ones who I'd like to smash.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

Also, is it true that American women date British men, but British women have little interest in American men? Or is that just among Belle & Sebastian fans?

Alba, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

There's a guy who sometimes gets on my bus who looks exactly like Shipman. I keep meaning to tell him to shave off the beard.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

Shipman looks a bit like the Unabomber, right?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

(lol couldn't be arsed to look up spelling of Kaczinsky or whatever)

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

He's the guy with the beard to the right of Ted Bundy

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/unabomber.jpg

Maybe it's just the beards

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

Also, is it true that American women date British men, but British women have little interest in American men? Or is that just among Belle & Sebastian fans?

-- Alba, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:17 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This is pretty OTM, girls with piercing American accents engaging in mindless chatter with their spineless indie prick boyfriend is a popular feature on many trains on the Jubilee line at weekends.

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

Haha, I thought the people in Noodle Vagues's second-to-last post were Oliver North and that British doctor who commited suicide over the Iraq thing (what was his name?), until I looked at the pic properties.

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

Also, is it true that American women date British men, but British women have little interest in American men? Or is that just among Belle & Sebastian fans?

-- Alba, Saturday, March 8, 2008 1:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is total nonsense

xpost!

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

Yes Tuomas I think Dr Kelly looked like the Shipmanbomber too.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_03/evidencePA1910_468x387.jpg

It's just beards, isn't it?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

we send some of our saddest male specimens ever over there and four years later they're back home with a charming selection of half-euro babies

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

also duh the so called 'second front' they opened up on our grandmothers.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:26 (seventeen years ago)

Dude you need to rephrase that.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

naw i got it right.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

Better zing of people from Suffolk/Norfolk:

"lol your grandmother sucked off an american serviceman"

or

"lol you're inbred"

?

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

C on Gs.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

earnest, sentimental sincerity (American) is coded "feminine" and cool ironic detachment (British) coded "masculine"?

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

it can be -- but 'cool ironic detachment' could mean jane austen; and 'earnest, sentimental sincerity' covers quite a lot of beardy US (male) rock music...

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

(xxpost) GIs they C on G's eyes

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/13/60minutes/main3615278_page3.shtml

"We aren't the Brits. We're not the Europeans. We're not the Swedes," says Republican Congressman Duncan Hunter, who is the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee.

Hunter argues that gays do not belong in the U.S. military because American troops need to be hardened warriors, unlike soldiers in the 15 NATO countries where gays serve openly.

"The Fallujahs of the world, the Ramadis of the world that require heavy combat and lots of fire-fighting capability - those are the places the Americans go. The other countries tend to go to the so-called peacekeeper zones, where they have fewer fire fights and less contact with the enemy," Hunter says. "And the European nations show little will to send large contingents of their military people into dangerous places."

Alba, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 09:31 (sixteen years ago)

I always get him confused with Randy Cunningham and am so sad he's not in jail.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

'hardened warriors' sounds like a good name for a gay porno flick

moley, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

"Gay Soldier Explores Pal’s Foxhole"

yungblut, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago)

Inability to finish our own world wars.

Yes. And when Europe had bloodthirstily grabbed half the world by the goolies through colonial expansion, it was forced to let go. Ya wimps!

(Of course the USA was the major force that forced them to let go - so we could proceed with our grandiose plans for economic and cultural colonization, that makes no odds, ya wimps!)

Aimless, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago)


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