Classroom Incident Sparks First Amendment Debate

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Classroom Incident Sparks First Amendment Debate
Incident Occurred Two Weeks Ago

UPDATED: 12:09 pm CST December 24, 2007

JANESVILLE, Wis. -- A classroom incident at a Janesville high school two weeks ago is raising some concerns about freedom of speech and school safety.

Some Janesville parents said that they're concerned that in this incident, in which a student allegedly tore pages from a Bible, the balance between the two was tipped toward the First Amendment, WISC-TV reported.

As many Parker High School students get ready for Christmas break, junior Elle Jacobson is at home and will not be returning like her friends.

"I have never felt threatened like that in a classroom before," said Jacobson.

The 17-year-old is talking about an incident in her English class two weeks ago during a class presentation.

"This boy got up and his visual aid was a Bible and a book. And he got up and started his speech by saying 'Now, this piece of crap' and pointed to the Bible."

Jacobson said that she quickly felt threatened.

"He took the Bible and he said, 'I'm going to do this because I can. I'm going to do something that your stupid, little minds aren't going to be able to comprehend and he took the Bible and started ripping out pages."

School officials said that they know about the incident.

"We take this extremely seriously," said Dr. Karen Schulte, Janesville School District safety and security coordinator.

Officials said that they will not confirm whether the boy was suspended.

"We do an assessment of this situation and students involved to ensure the safety of every student and staff at that school," said Schulte.

Officials said that ripping up a Bible is constitutionally protected, adding the punishment has nothing to do with the student's Freedom of Speech demonstration.

"Any actions that were taken in this case were because of behavior separate from the Bible," said Parker High Principal Dale Carlson.

Some parents said that they disagree with the school's reaction.

"The school worries about his right to privacy and to free speech that to teachers' rights or the students' right to safety," said Paul Jacobson, Elle’s father.

He said that he's pulling his two high school daughters out of Parker High.

"It's not about free speech. It's not about necessarily about the Bible although that was disgusting, too. This is about the vicious, vile manner in the way this kid went about this and tried to make some kind of point," he said.

Elle Jacobson's parents are looking for another school for their daughters.

Parker High School officials aren't saying whether the student who sparked the controversy is back at school.

In a separate incident, following the punishment, three Parker High Students wore T-shirts asking for the student in question to be brought back after a punishment was levied against him. School officials made those students change clothes.

and what, Saturday, 15 March 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

Jacobson said that she quickly felt threatened.

Feelings are rather unreliable as a gauge of objective reality. They are only designed to motivate people to act in the interest of their survival. There is a certain amount of over-compensation invovled, to provide an extra margin of safety.

However, even if her feelings may not reflect the amount of threat that was present, it should be possible to gauge the intensity of the feeling from what Jacobson did at the time. That can be measured at least.

Did she try to stop the threat or remove herself from the situation? If she didn't, then one may conclude something about the level of threat she felt.

Aimless, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

Wait, so the reason he got suspended has nothing to do with his ripping pages out of the Bible? Why is this an issue then?

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

Uh, the teacher is really to blame here for not stopping a harmful classroom situation.

remy bean, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

"This boy got up and his visual aid was the Joy of Cooking. And he got up and started his speech by saying 'Now, this piece of crap' and pointed to the Joy of Cooking

Jacobson said that she quickly felt threatened.

"He took the Joy of Cooking and he said, 'I'm going to do this because I can. I'm going to do something that your stupid, little minds aren't going to be able to comprehend and he took the Joy of Cooking and started ripping out pages."

This is inappropriate smug high school student b.s. any way you slice it, notwithstanding the faith issue

remy bean, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

middle american high school in overreacting about a tenuous religious situation shocker

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

goth high school student in 'being smug' shocker

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

I love how it's written like some strange, UNSAFE thing has happened because some Fugothzi tore a page of the Bible.

suzy, Saturday, 15 March 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

Considering the number of school-aged shooters who've cropped up in the last decade, this sort of behavior is taken at more than its face value. Put it in that context and you understand better why the school officials were pissing themselves to reassure parents their kids were safe.

Aimless, Saturday, 15 March 2008 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

ethan haven't you started this thread like 6 times already

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 March 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

"Any actions that were taken in this case were because of behavior separate from the Bible," said Parker High Principal Dale Carlson.

This clarification is excellent.

Abbott, Saturday, 15 March 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

"His behavior is not that which is recommended in The Bible."

Abbott, Saturday, 15 March 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)


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