Continuing on from this way-too-large-thread.
Anyway, I bought a 16GB iPhone today. Now I wonder what took me so long.
I expect that I won't make the rounds of officially stamped iPhone developers until v2.0 actually ships.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:00 (eighteen years ago)
I knew it was WAY too early for the fall apple love fest. Hey Elvis, why today? You didn't pay over five hundred bucks did you?
― Wiggy Woo, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:13 (eighteen years ago)
So sad that I am stuck with crackberry from work and no point to get iPhone that was planned days prior to new job.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:15 (eighteen years ago)
I was kinda waiting for speed bump, I guess. Has that happened yet?
― libcrypt, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:16 (eighteen years ago)
macrumors says new motherboards in june?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:34 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:37 (eighteen years ago)
everything is apparently in june
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 March 2008 05:40 (eighteen years ago)
shall I lock the old one?
Please.
As muttered here and there I went for an iPhone myself two weekends back, 8 GB but anyway. Great stuff, of course.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 13:16 (eighteen years ago)
Wake me up when we all get Virtual Light style sunglasses, that's all I care about.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 22 March 2008 13:37 (eighteen years ago)
Do I want to get an iPhone or am I going to waste my life checking my e-mail all the time when I could be thinking, reading a book, etc.?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 22 March 2008 14:06 (eighteen years ago)
Hey Elvis, why today? You didn't pay over five hundred bucks did you?
It's somewhat of a tax write-off business expense thing, so it doesn't hurt that much. Well, maybe sort of.
I ended up pulling the trigger on it because between the v2.0 announcement and a once over of WWDC iPhone seminar track I concluded that's it's kinda important for me to get up to speed on it. Not because it's a phone or an iPod Touch or whatever the hell Apple comes up with, but mainly because it's the first new Apple OS since OS X and most of the interesting new development stuff is going to happen over there rather than on OS X despite Lion or whatever cat it ends up being.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 24 March 2008 05:39 (eighteen years ago)
Battery life is much longer if you have Mail set to check manually. The guys who were writing Twitter clients set to check constantly figured that out quickly.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 24 March 2008 05:40 (eighteen years ago)
Mail with IDLE is probably a lot more efficient because the program can essentially not be woken until it sees data on the socket as opposed to twitter which needs to poll
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 24 March 2008 05:53 (eighteen years ago)
Probably if and only if you already waste your life checking email all the time, at a guess.
I actually find that I read more articles from the LRB etc these days, because when I find myself waiting somewhere without a book I just flick through articles there, or from the NYRB etc. That column style of webpage works really well on the iPhone.
― toby, Monday, 24 March 2008 13:39 (eighteen years ago)
Battery life is much longer if you have Mail set to check manually.
^ this. I've barely used mine for mail at all.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 March 2008 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
Also, is it still the case that you can transfer another AT&T account to the iPhone? If so it's definitely best starting another account with a free phone, and eBaying that phone. We saved a few hundred $s that way. With refurbs down to $250 you can get the phone form under $100 now, I expect (ignoring the contract, of course, which may or may not be a lot more than other contracts you consider).
― toby, Monday, 24 March 2008 14:33 (eighteen years ago)
Out of the box, iphones only work with iphone contract sims (at least here in the UK). There are two types of unlock though - one which will work with any sim from any network, and one less major one, which will work with any O2 sim. So I think you'd still need to have at least that second type of unlock if you wanted to pull the switcheroo toby describes.
― JimD, Monday, 24 March 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)
no, in the US any AT&T account will work on any iphone
― cutty, Monday, 24 March 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)
O2 even more twatty than AT&T then, I guess.
― JimD, Monday, 24 March 2008 15:29 (eighteen years ago)
Wow that is really lame! I think there *might* be a limitation to the SIM, but not the account - the SIM in my iPhone was the one that was in it when I bought it. We just started an AT&T account one day, activated the iPhones a few hours later, and they simply reset the finish date to 18 months later, rather than adding 18 months to the total contract. No unlocking required, 2 free phones sold for $150 each on eBay, and we got $150 from Best Buy, too. Oh, and we got a contract that was $10/month cheaper than any of the iPhone contracts, too. Pretty stupid - you'd think they'd want to extend the contracts by 18 months, rather than reset them, but I guess they didn't want to piss off their existing customers.
― toby, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 03:37 (eighteen years ago)
air and as thin as air?
― youn, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 03:46 (eighteen years ago)
just wanted to say I upgraded my G5, the very oldest first ever G5, to Leopard, and everything is noticeably faster then it was in Tiger, which was way more sluggish than previous versions. I'm happy. Everything works except for one little obscure bit of music software that a few dozen are rabidly complaining about at that companies forum.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 03:47 (eighteen years ago)
Have just spent two hours repairing utterly borked user permissions on Leopard Server -- it's a real dog. And have found out why iPlayer keeps stalling: Leopard Client dns crashes speedtouch routers, forcing them to reboot.
God I hate Leopard. Looked at the box again -- on the back it has pictures of new features. Seems they could only think of five, and two of them are HTML Emails and iChat video effects.
― stet, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 03:58 (eighteen years ago)
Hey, don't knock the HTML email thing -- inline, complex, styled, accepted even by web mail programs, that's something. Those things are usually a bitch and a half.
― kenan, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:00 (eighteen years ago)
Can't wait for the new version of Outlook with the worse CSS implementation
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:13 (eighteen years ago)
I hate HTML email. plaintext ftw
― stet, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:16 (eighteen years ago)
HTML email is nice because linebreaking urls won't fuck up
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:18 (eighteen years ago)
This is where multipart MIME type comes in for the win.
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:23 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, but you know who loooooves html email with lots of graphics? Employers.
― kenan, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:30 (eighteen years ago)
I don't particularly like graphics in mail, but it's sometimes useful to have color, italics, indentation, and non-breaking lines.
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:40 (eighteen years ago)
I should just make all my mails one big graphic that nobody can edit but looks perfect.
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:42 (eighteen years ago)
In a rush, I have been known to resort to that. Worse yet, nobody complains.
― kenan, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 05:43 (eighteen years ago)
Everything works except for one little obscure bit of music software that a few dozen are rabidly complaining about at that companies forum.
oh so curious!!!??
― csa, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:06 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah no kidding, these guys are total jokers. One of the rabid complaints is mine.
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:33 (eighteen years ago)
some people afraid to spill beans!
― csa, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:25 (eighteen years ago)
has anyone here tried an air? i used one in the apple shop in glasgow and it vibrates noticeably. if you hover your fingers over the areas at the side of the scrollpad you can detect it and, worse, if you are typing you can feel a horrible vibration on the fleshy part at the base of your hand as it rests on that area. if you try and raise that part of your hand you can still feel it - you don't even have to be touching it to feel the vibration. i tried 3 or 4 and they were all the same. very unpleasant.
― jed_, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:44 (eighteen years ago)
lol safari 3 on leopard just got the shit pwnt out of it at CanSecWest.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:49 (eighteen years ago)
hahahah. Any links?
The iPhone does the same thing Jed, if you touch the metal part of it while it's in the charger. Very odd.
― stet, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9905095-37.html?tag=nefd.top Vista still unhacked.
― stet, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:34 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductIndex.aspx?ProductID=11
where does it say "oh yeah, does not work with Leopard, and the AU plug-in may not work on any Mac"?
and here's their very own forum:
http://www.lexiconpro.com/Community/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=052bbe5ab9417a9d74cd7ac1792de5a5
I emailed tech support...they said "we're working on it".
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:22 (eighteen years ago)
actually, the AU plug-in works only with PPC, no intel, while the edit software only works on Tiger. I installed it and it was fine, then upgraded to Leopard 2 days later and had to say goodbye.
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:24 (eighteen years ago)
Do I want to get the 32 GB iPod touch or do I want to get the 160GB ipod classic or do I want to wait (!?!?!?!?!) until June or July when new shit happens?
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 29 March 2008 20:28 (eighteen years ago)
wait until new shit happens
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)
:\ that's what I was afraid of. ipod just gave up the ghost, I think.
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 29 March 2008 20:37 (eighteen years ago)
music sucks anyway
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 20:38 (eighteen years ago)
I only listen to free-range music these days anyway.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 29 March 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
This is an OK guide as to when to buy immediately and/or hold off: http://mactactic.com/
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:13 (eighteen years ago)
i bought a 16GB iphone the other week and it's a thing of joy and beauty; i did umm and aah about holding off in case there was a pre-july hardware update but i figured, fuck it, i've been holding off since the things launched, just in case something new and exciting happened, and the bullet had to be bitten at some point.
my concession to future-proofing was buying 16GB so i can fit a shitload of apps on it come july :)
stet has mocked me for this but i also bought a kind of grippy rubber slipcase thing for it, because FUCK ME they're thin and potentially droppable.
like toby says: it's actually improved my productivity and reading time because it does mean i can keep an eye on news/forums/mail when i've got a few dead minutes somewhere ... then when i get home i've got time to actually read a book, rather than feel i should catch up on what i missed during the day.
the other thing i want to do with it is catch up on TV shows -- namely mad men and the wire. iSquint is gonna be my friend here. only fucker is not having enough spare disk space on my actual macs to torrent stuff in the first place :/
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 30 March 2008 16:04 (eighteen years ago)
I picked up something similar because I drop phones ALL THE TIME
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:02 (eighteen years ago)
my last phone -- the unlamented motorola L6 -- got dropped on a hard pub floor not six hours after i bought it. my first iPod bit the dust in a similar fashion (i was drunk in my own kitchen). i'm not risking this.
also: yesterday i managed to go arse over tit walking through my own front door with a box of groceries. somehow i failed to land on my pocket. thank fuck.
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 30 March 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)
I wish I could just use skype with my office number from home. i hate phones
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:11 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.macessity.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=29799
drool
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
I'd like to say again...a few days after upgrading to Leopard...my G5, that very first G5, is running faster then it has in 2 years, everything, Photoshop opens much faster, iTunes scrolls through my 33,000 songs effortlessly when it used to pause a lot. And I got going with Time Machine last night. It ran for like 10 hours for the first back-up and now seems to work seamlessly. I'm loving my mac right now. I should probably do some real work with it now.
― dan selzer, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:43 (eighteen years ago)
he said moments before Mail crashed for absolutely no reason!
― dan selzer, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:51 (eighteen years ago)
that LowKey Stand looks great.
― jed_, Monday, 31 March 2008 17:52 (eighteen years ago)
didn't realise ILx had an iPhone mode
can we get a web/home screen icon based on the favicon too?
― czn, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)
where is the iphone mode?
― cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
go into prefs -> I want change how ILx looks -> iPhone.css
― czn, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:44 (eighteen years ago)
The iPod Touch really makes me wish ILX had persistent login.
― Casuistry, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:58 (eighteen years ago)
iphone.css is nice and all but probably only feasible if you plan on using your iphone more than a CPU to access ILX
― cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:01 (eighteen years ago)
the stylesheet preference is set per-browser by a cookie -- if you set it on yr iPhone, none of the other places you use ilx will change.
If someone makes a big icon, I'll put it up ...
― stet, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)
oh nice. no way to have persistent login via cookie?
― cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:38 (eighteen years ago)
not without writing our own security system, so not imminently. Is v annoying, but so is mobile safari not remembring any damn passwords at all.
― stet, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)
can't you get 1password for iPhone now?
― czn, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:05 (eighteen years ago)
yeh, iPhone.CSS is fuckin' A. top stuff, stet.
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)