kill bill volumes 1 & 2 fight scenes poll

the end of v1 no DOUBT. but which part is the qn.

i still wish this was one movie :(

vs. o-ren ishii

Yeah, there are three options there that are really one big long awesome fight.

yo when are they going to release the special DVD or whatever that has both movies cut together??

vernita green vs. crazy 88

I almost went for the elle driver fight, though. what a payoff.

for reals.

i'm picking Beatrix v. Elle Driver if just for the hilarious ending of elle screaming and wildly cursing beatrix

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Anyone who votes the Bill fight is RONG.

The scene between her and Bill at the wedding chapel is awesomes, tho.

guess i'm gonna have to go for o-ren?

would vote for the crazy 88 if it weren't for the b&w business.

waht

yeah b&w kinda soured me on crazzy 88 fight even though the fight in front of the blue screen is pretty visually stunning

vs elle

"o wow i didn't know lucy liu had a brain"

crazy 88 tho, for jonny mo's wudan and whatnot

i mean i know he had to do the b&w to get the rating but it still kills the momentum for me

i didn't mind the b&w because it was such a kitchen-sink scene, it was like "sure, why not".

The color->b&w->(color?->)silhoutte thing is just achingly wonderful.

vernita green fight is just brutal.

it has the best 'fallout'

Where is O-ren Ishii's dad vs. whatsisname in animation?

Anyway, Elle.

Elle, for the close-quarters-ness of it. Unable to unsheath sword, etc. It kinda makes it an extension of the coffin-escape scene in a way.

these movies attack the reptile part of my brain

Beatrix v. O-Ren Ishii is the worst.

voting for the 88s, assuming it includes vs. gogo

in my mind gogo and 88 are separate fights but i could see it either way

you want it to be one way, but it the other way

vs. Elle for sure

eyeball squishing between toes puts it over the top

Oooo, good poll. I went with Bill, cos I love how quick and understated it is after that lengthy build-up. Clever storytelling there.

Is it the Japanese cut of Kill Bill that stays in color during the Crazy 88 fight? Because that version is awesome.

real answer here is anime O-Ren fucking up the guy who killed her parents

I feel like Gogo is going to get robbed here

Well yeah, because one long seamless fight was arbitrarily broken up into three bits in order to keep this from being a landslide.

now you know what it feels like to have a poll be arbitrarily screwed with. IT BREAKS YOUR HEART.

I still voted!

to be honest i figured there would be more outrage if i left that whole scene together-- though i do think the gogo fight and extended crazy 88s fight are diff 'fights'

Elle Elle Elle

I really jumped out of my seat a little bit when Uma Thurman plucks out the eyeball. Best build-up and release of tension ever.

Maybe I'm just weird but that is one extended scene of awesomeness for me.

let the dvd chapter breaks decide!

I almost went for the elle driver fight, though. what a payoff.

I did.

i still wish this was one movie

It IS. One long, hyperextended, self-indulgent fetish movie.

Indeed. Sometimes that's ok though.

Pei Mei, y'all. Assuming that by "training" we mean "fighting."

I like the scene where Pei Mei is making her fight with her rice.

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I almost went for the elle driver fight, though. what a payoff.

I did.

i still wish this was one movie

It IS. One long, hyperextended, self-indulgent fetish movie.

-- Dr Morbius, Friday, April 4, 2008 1:14 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

well yes. but i wish it was like it was originally gonna be: one actual movie that was shorter than both of these combined.

i also wish warren beatty had stayed bill.

Not sure if it's the only one, but the Japanese version does have an all-color Crazy 88 scene. Honestly kind of liked the B&W version better.

But yeah, that scene, for pure insanity.

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yo when are they going to release the special DVD or whatever that has both movies cut together??

― max, Thursday, April 3, 2008 1:04 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

When they do the third part in 2015 or whatever.

I like them as 2 movies.

Beatrix v. Gogo Yubari 1

this one is so fucking good

as much as i absolutely love these movies, i still feel a bit robbed by the fact that they had to ditch the original ending of beatrix & bill fighting on a moonlit beach outside his hacienda

for me it pretty much ruined the movie.

i feel like the movie is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust whimsical enough in places to get away with the anti-climactic exploding heart ending, but yeah it's a bit of a disappointment

I mean fuck, they spend half of both movies building up to a mammoth confrontation. Even SONNY FUCKING CHIBA is scared of Bill! And then he just slices some wonderbread, rambles on for 10 minutes and gets killed in a split second "fight."

jord do you know if there was a reason why they ditched the original ending?

i read on imdb that it's just cuz production was running too long

i have mixed feelings -- on the one hand, i feel like they should've just said fuck a deadline & filmed the scene. also feel like even if they had to ditch that scene in particular, they could've choreographed a cool sword fight in the hacienda or whatever. on the other hand i sorta feel like the sword fighting in vol. 1 (or the first two hours, if we're talking about a full movie) is so heavy & epic that it might've been hard to do a beatrix/bill final swordfight w/o it feeling anti-climactic in some regard

that is such a lame reason damn!

pretty sure the Weinsteins cut off the money.

isn't QT notorious for that kinda thing? didn't they film IB in some insanely short period of time because he was intent on getting the movie to sundance

right xp

This shit's been on TNT all day today

yeah that's why i bumped this thread

I feel like this would work well on tv, wouldn't feel ruined w/ commercials

yeah & since they're airing it after midnight they haven't really edited anything out except for a few "fucks" and lucy liu's exposed brain

also, bourne supremacy is on tbs -- it's like turner broadcasting directly consulted me on what to put on after the tourney games

Elle Driver fight is the best moment in either movie. ending of KB2 is closest i've come to throwing my hands up and saying "I've had it with Tarantino" - that thing he does where he builds tension with long conversations is great when he pulls it off, but when he doesn't the scene sinks like a stone. there's no tension to the confrontation w/Bill and there's no ~emotional weight~ to it either... these movies are just overstuffed and i think there's a lot of perfectly good scenes in them that would've played better if they were in a movie with more modest goals.

haha i loved the bill fight! i did think this movie was Too Long and prob could have lost a whole 20 minutes if you just deflowered people's syntax a lil, so i am not endorsing every second of the goldfish/superman stuff, but the actual "fight" i thought was great: bill walking barefoot into the dark garden while you count his steps, and then the play-gunfight-echoing silent drop to the grass. cannot imagine coming to the end of four hours of kill bill and feeling cheated of swordfights. i saw the first one in the theatre and didn't see this one till just now, but i rewatched the first one first, hence my whetted swordfight appetite i guess. anyway, good breakup movie.

"this one" i mean 2 obv.

such a good poll idea

gogo robbed a lil; some of the stuff w the ball crashing through furniture is best in show

Yeah, Bill's death is great! It's possible when I first saw this I was disappointed that there wasn't more of a "final fight" but it totally made sense to me. Plus she'd already been through the sort of "samurai showdown" deal with O-Ren, it wouldn't be anything new. Maybe the idea is we've finally arrived at the last cult genre which Elle must face, and it's...a Tarantino movie! Everybody's just talking about pop culture and dying at inopportune moments.

At the time I was convinced the one-movie version would be way better. Not sure how I feel now, having not watched them in ages they seem pretty watchable and great in my memory, but I suspect there's enough flab that it could be made to kinda work, though at the expense of what I'm not sure. You could easily do a re-cut of these that dials it all down to a wacky comedy, and one that cuts all the laugh lines for something much more brutal and exhausting. Or it could primarily be a slow "hunt" kind of movie if the action scenes were all sliced down to their climaxes.

i'm sure i'll be a minority of one here, but i thought the kill bill movies were wretched. there's a grim, seedy joylessness that normally runs through tarantino's movies, but the grim, seedy joylessness here swallows-up the entirety of these two movies.

and i like grim movies! maybe i've just had enough of tarantino's particular style. he still writes good dialogue.

Baffled by the winner of this poll.

if this were deaths not fights bill would be the easy winner: nail in head, decapitation, etc., vs broken heart

the problem with the crazy 88 fight is thurman just doesn't move very well and that sequence exposes her limitations more than any other... its heart is in the right place though

i'm baffled that you people remember more than three scenes of a distended foot-fetish chopsocky movie.

really, at this point, you are 'baffled' by these things

yeah, you people are too smart not to see through this garbage-picking charlatan

tho the KBs were at least mediocre

a distended foot-fetish chopsocky movie.

colorful description! i had to look up "distended"(swollen due to pressure from inside; bloated). the rest i got.

his movies have been far less foot-fetish-y, and far more chopsocky-y, lately.

I'm A fan of the Bill fight too, it's swiftness after the length of the build-up is really well done. V2>>V1 imo.