Are there any black knights?

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All the famous people who can officially use the term "Sir" or "Dame" seem to be white... Have any people of African or Asian descent ever been knighted?

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

Let's get this out of the way first :

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/jpgs/bknight3.jpg

Matt #2, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.ciadvertising.org/sa/spring_04/adv382j/libbyg/mytheory/charles%20barkley.jpg

balls, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

Who's that?

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

Oh sorry, should've read the link address. But isn't he American?

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

you're fucking kidding me

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

fake

caek, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

No, this is a serious question. Are there any official rules that would stop prominent black Britons from getting knighted, besides informal practices of course.

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

off the top of my head, trevor phillips, bill morris, trevor mcdonald.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

do you have an honours system in finnland?

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

do you have books in finland?

Mr. Que, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

do you have anything besides the internet which you connect to while sitting in a shopping cart in a phone booth?

Mr. Que, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

Sir Trevor Nelson
Sir Kulvinder Ghir
Dame Jude Sarpong

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

do you have an honours system in finnland?

Not in the same sense as in Britain. You can receive or even buy certain titles from the state, but they have nothing to with nobility, since Finland has been a republic ever since it got independent. All the proper "noblemen" we have are descendants of the old Swedish nobility, and I don't think they have any official status.

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

are there any black finnish noblemen?

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

And yeah, sure I could've tried to search the net to get an answer for this question, but I thought it'd be easier to get the answer from a board populated by many British people. And it was.

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

are there any black finnish noblemen?

Since there were few black Swedes before the 20th century, I doubt it.

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

Are there any official rules that would stop prominent black Britons from getting knighted

i know that we're terrible racist bastards and all that, but for fuck's sake.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry about that, I just thought that there might've been some rule that said a knighted person should be a third generation Briton or something...

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.pinballers.com/Pictures/Black%20Knight%20(1980)/blackknight.jpg

Mr. Que, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

Ben Kingsley (aka Krishna Bhanji) and Salman Rushdie as well as the people banriquit mentioned and many more, i'm sure. maybe Ben and Salman aren't famous enough for you though, Tuomas. how many people do you know of who are knighted, anyway? i could probably name 10 knighted people off the top of my head and the fact that three of them are not white suggests a decent ratio overall.

jed_, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

are there any black finnish noblemen?

Since there were few black Swedes before the 20th century, I doubt it.

how many black britons do you think there were before the 20thC ?

jed_, Saturday, 5 April 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, but as I explained upthread, Britons still get knighted today, whereas that hasn't happened in Finland for about 100 years.

Tuomas, Saturday, 5 April 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.newsfromnowhere.org.uk/books/DisplayBookInfo.php?ISBN=1873245076

laxalt, Saturday, 5 April 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.thekleenezebusinessopportunity.com/images/chrisaka.jpg

LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN, PEOPLE

Bodrick III, Saturday, 5 April 2008 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

Dame Jocelyn Barrow
Dame Shirley Bassey
Dame Kelly Holmes

Probably missed some others

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 5 April 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

^^ interesting story and there are other examples in the east end and bristol but not a great surprise they were not recruited into the ruling class.

cpost

there is a question relating to britain's use of the "honours system", if you like, in american and india as a tool of divide-and-rule. i'm too busy to unpack that right now.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.mainframegeek.com/Image/British_Knights_Black.jpg

gabbneb, Saturday, 5 April 2008 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bradwalsh.com/images/journal03132006-1.jpg

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 5 April 2008 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

i never realized ben kingsley was actually of indian descent

akm, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

A black knight is a soldier or knight who either is not bound to a specific liege or does not want his liege, or himself, to be identified and so does not bear any heraldic standards or has blackened them out.

Fictional black knights are usually solitary, usually evil, master warriors.

Trevor MacDonald definitely fits this description.

If Tuomas did not exist the internet would have had to create him.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

http://vinylfreakmusicstore.com/img/singles/DeepPurpleBlackNight.jpg

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

Dame Jude Sarpong

-- Dom Passantino, Saturday, April 5, 2008 9:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i know this is a joek but fyi i would "KNIGHT" her

and what, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

lol http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22Jude+Sarpong%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

she is an MBE btw. don't think dom was joeking.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

I was. She's an MBE? For services to what, screeching?

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

Tolerating Vernon "Bolton" Kaye?

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

party in the park '03 helped heal this country a little bit.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/3/10283-large.jpg

joygoat, Saturday, 5 April 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

good post

31g, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

Sir Tim Westwood

Bodrick III, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

i was just gonna post that google search for jude sarpong. wtf

gbx, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

It's June.

Gavin, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

Still April in the UK.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

I hope you're happy with yourself.

Gavin, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

I'll let my posting history speak for me there.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

I went along to Trafalgar Square one lunchtime a couple of years back to hear Nelson Mandela speak. Up first was June Sarpong MBE. She introduced him with exactly the same gravitas as if she were interviewing Atomic Kitten between repeats of Friends. (He was also sharing a bill with Jamelia, FFS)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

i think she got it for that doc/interview she did w. tony blairs during the last election -- engaging ver kids and whatnot.

banriquit, Saturday, 5 April 2008 18:48 (seventeen years ago)


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