same-sex marriage

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hope this hasn't been done before.

on the one hand, i'm an anarchist, and i believe that the idea of ANY relationships needing validation by the state is a load of old rubbish.

on the other hand, while we do have government and laws etc, the law should provide equality, in which case, people should have the option to marry whoever the hell they want irrespective of sex.

what do y'all think?

― di, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have problems with it too di and if david and i could get married then we wouldn't cause of the fisrt thing .

― anthony, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm pretty much in agreement with your position Di. On a practical level I think there's stuff we've got to achieve first eg. irradicate the all-pervasive suburban small-h homophobia that lurks and breeds in darkness eg. the Kirby/Heffernan scandal.

But if other people want to fight for it, good luck to them.

― Tim, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

since the key part of marriage in legal-civic terms is a contract regarding property and ownership, surely you can establish such a contract by turning up at a law office w/o in fact even calling it a marriage? so yeah it bugs me too, tho actually i like diff-sex ones less...

― mark s, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(ps i may not know what i'm talking about here, esp. in ref oz and us)

― mark s, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I did not become queer in order to attend more fucking church services

― Queen G, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Civil contracts, as Mark sez. My ex-roommate Steve G. back in the early nineties really wanted a marriage of some kind to his boyfriend Pei-Chi, I recall. I think they did some sort of ceremony a couple of years after I left LA.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

in new zealand gay couples have the same rights as de facto couples re property etc. well except they can't get married.

― di, Saturday, 16 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All for the civil contracts route. There are many practical reasons to support state-recognized unions. If people want to go getting religion involved that's their business and neither here nor there as far as the government's concerned, in my opinion.

― Samantha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

theres a group trying to bring this in in NZ but you'd still only be able be "union-ed" to one person at a time so its still aping hetero ownership style marriage.

― hamish, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hamish if you're going to be that stringent you may as well give up the idea of "unions" altogether as being some sort of convenient capitalist construct.

― Tim, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When you've been married as long as I have, the sex does tend to stay the same.

― Giggles von Laughsalot, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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