T/S: Banksy vs A Copy of Nuts Magazine

nuts in a heartbeat

Obv.

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lol at cameraman focussing on glass eye

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12.20am Cunt
Nathan Barley purchases a copy of Knees Royale, the debut album from a knowingly lo-fi Westbourne Grove-based band called The Knees, whose music is a thinly-veiled amalgamation of the Strokes and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs (yet manages to be precisely one-hundredth as rewarding) and whose CD cover boasts a specially commisioned portrait of the queen wearing a Bomberman helmet, sprayed rebeliously on the wall of a Soho alleyway by dangerous urban street art phenomenon Banksy, whose provocative stencilled images of riot vans and monkeys effortlessly shatter the cosy mindsets of all uptight “normals” who see them, while simultaneously providing a vague sense of inclusive 21st-Century somethingism to the self-orbiting cuntrungs who frequent the kind of gentrified media locales in which is sixth-form wall-splatterings tend to be somewhat conveniently displayed.

no option for "would prefer death to either" = no vote, sorry.

That Nathan Barley excerpt is essentially this column redux, isn't it?

Banksy easily. Nuts is utter shit.

And not as good as Benny Hill which is saying something.

Nuts, for sure, but I'm more excited at getting a Brewster's Millions screencap in this thread.

Banksy's OK

haven't read Nuts

I kind of like some Banksy stuff from a purely aesthetic point of view but everything everyone ever says in his favour beyond "it looks cool" is bullshit to the power of 50 and that puts me off.

I honestly can't remember the last time I read anything positive in his favour apart from like under "Heroes" on someone's Myspace or whatever

what is the point of this comparison anyway? what connection is there between the two? why Nuts?

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can't wait to use that on someone

i kinda like his ed hopper rendition showing a holiday brit throwing a chair at the bar window.
and the ones showing delapitated cars in constable style landscapes

I have nothing positive to say about Nuts on the other hand.

is there a mirror of that peter dean rickards takedown of banksy anywhere? that's worth a re-read.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/angels_egg/banksy/index.html

I don't know if that's what you mean?

Rickards has quite a few interesting run ins with people!

Don't diss him -you'll be next!

I bet all those guys who designed wacky student humour T-shirts in the late 90s (like a chess piece holding a gun and the slogan "Hardcore Pawn" or something) are kicking themselves they didn't spray their "subversive" ideas all over private property across London.

But they are still advertising them in the back pages of Nuts, right?

Banksy is mostly considerably more witty than 'hardcore pawn'.

And more subversive of course. Without the quote marks.

How is Banksy's stuff "subversive"? With the quote marks.

Subverts bourgeois notions of being "good", "interesting", etc.

I can just about buy the idea that working outside of the gallery system and bringing your art into "the public sphere" or whatever is worthwhile, but didn't he sort of ditch all those principles by getting that collector money as soon as he could, like a rat up a drainpipe?

I remember reading an interview with Peter Saville where he says that he hated the visual puns and obvious signifiers you would get on a lot of 70s record covers. He wanted to distance himself from those methods because the average young, hip consumer was more sophisticated than that, had more subtle tastes. Guess he was wrong!

I think good taste can be a real barrier to creativity, but my problems with Banksy aren't about good/bad taste.

i don't think Saville is wrong there but he's always mined one niche whereas Banksy mines another (obviously tho what with one of them being primarily a designer and one primarily an artist)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I think Banksy's alright, if overhyped, and has bought more of value to popular culture than Nuts ever has. So there, you post-ironic denizens of the internet.

Guys, there's an elephant in the room... no really.

Here's an idea for a Banksy piece: throwing sh*t at an actual fan. Man, that would blow my mind and make me think about stuff.

OR OR, what about graffiti that showed Colonel Sanders, but with sunglasses and devil horns, and then it would say KENTUCKY FRIED DEATH below it. Yeah, that would show late capitalism that its days are numbered man.

Also Steve, I'm not sure about your designer/artist equation with regard to these two.

i only like the banksy stencils that are totally motivated by their surface/context

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I voted for Bizarre magazine but it did not count :(

thanks ned trifle. peter dean rickards is an inspiring person.

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What's "Nut" magazine?

It's the National Union of Teachers' monthly journal. Of tits.

Forget what thread we did the "Tories not really feeling Zoo and Nuts" bump the other week, but here's some awesome whiney effette Liberal bitch handwringing from ex-Nuts editor Phil Hilton.

Incidentally, not to go all HYS on you, but I picked up a copy of Now the other week, and shit is 500 times worse than any banal sub-jazz mag. There was an article suggesting that Amy Winehouse's mother is "playing up" her MS in order to distract from what a bad parent she is.

was it by you?

Mark Ronson articulate?

I mean, he may well be, but particularly?

Maybe he is in comparison to Phil Hilton

ronson is posh. ergo...

the girl who snubbed him at the party = heroine

would like to read the natasha walter book though, it's such an interesting complex topic which is almost never covered interestingly, mags like nuts and zoo are bullshit but getting all ariel levy puritanical on raunch culture isn't really edifying or smart either

the girl who snubbed him at the party = heroine

No interest in being cap'n save-a-former-Nuts-editor but if I was going to do something like that I'd have to be very assured with myself that my "high up position in publishing" gave me the moral high ground

bumping because Nuts is having a Big Boobs Issue

seems somewhat redundant.

boris johnson amirite

Isn't that, like, every issue?

yep.

yet another Nuts 'Big Boobs Special'

it's like Loot having a classified ads special

there was a letter in Viz a while back congratulating Nuts for having a "Sex issue"