How much is it? How do you manage it? Do you include eating out and takeaways in it, or just grocery shopping? Where do you shop? How often? Have you noticed your bill going up lately? Do you buy the same amount / stuff every week?
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)
Just groceries averages $400 a month for the two of us. It seems a bit high to me but what are you going to do? I really haven't noticed going up much.
We don't eat out much or do take-out so I don't keep track of that. I do eat out far too much for lunch. I'm afraid to know that figure.
― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)
Supermarket shopping - probably maybe £20 a week? I don't seem to spend that much.
Breakfast/lunch - I always get this when I'm out, probably about £30-£35 a week. Seems disproportionate when I look at it like that.
I tend to eat out at least once a week though, although I'm not sure that counts as part of a 'food budget'. I have this weird mental block where I don't think of buying food as actually spending money, lol Westerner.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
I prefer not to think about it. Esp with two kids: crazy high spendings.
― stevienixed, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:04 (seventeen years ago)
We budget £300 a month for the two of us, which breaks down as £70ish a week. I make us sandwiches or another packed lunch (leftover curry and naan bread / macaroni cheesed / sweet potato for microwaving etc) pretty much every day for lunch, so lunches are included in that. We have breakfast at home every morning. The food budget includes most of my toiletries, but not most of Em's (she, being a gurl, spends way more than I do on that kind of thing). We eat out once a month from this budget too; any other meals out come from our own money (usually mine, as it's usually my insistence, as I do all the cooking).
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:10 (seventeen years ago)
mine has increased a lot lately, because of rise in oil, from +/- $40/week to +/- $60/week, though that is entirely raw ingredients, largely vegetarian, and includes kitchen-stocking items, strange herbs and pricey spices.
― remy bean, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:12 (seventeen years ago)
$50 for dairy and eggs $125 for meat and fish $50 for veg and fruit, pickles, herbs, and spices $25 for bread/pasta/beans
So, around $250/month for 2 people. We do eat a lot of meat, and that amount doesn't include eating out or takeaway - which we are doing more often due to living where it's feasible and easy. I shop twice a week on average, at Seattle's Pike Place Market, for everything except meat (although I occasionally pick up some wonderful lamb sausages from the butcher there). I'm fortunate to work at home, and can hop the bus up to the market, load up my old-lady cart and drag it back home. We stock up on meat from a farm in eastern Washington where everything is pasture-raised and finished, every month or two. The same with pasta/flour/sugar and other staples - an occasional big stock-up trip to Safeway or commercial grocer. For veg/fruit/fish, I buy what's local and fresh generally, so that varies. And at the end of a season (like for tomatoes or pears or whatever) I'll buy a huge amount and concentrate or freeze or dry it. There's probably enough in the house to get us through a month or two.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
We buy a lot of fresh pizza and pizza bases (only ever what's on offer though), a lot of fish, a lot of pasta / pesto, lots of herbs (quite often fresh), a fuck of a lot of prawns, noodles, lots of tomatoes (although Em hates an "unprepared" or identifiable tomato), gnocchi, baking / sweet potatoes, frozen veggie stuff (sausages, burgers, etc), lots of fresh "slice it yourself" bread, lots of cheese, ham. Last night we had baked potato with beans, cheese and salad. Tonight not sure. I want tomatoes roasted with olive oil, black pepper and sea salt. Yum. Bananas, apples, grapes. Cereal. I have toast for breakfast most days. We go through a lot of fruit juice / smoothies. Em goes through a lot of coke. I'd go through shitloads of Nutella if she'd let me.
We generally shop at Sainsburys, with occasional trips to the local fish mongers / deli etc.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)
When the 2 of our teenage kids that had been living with us moved out, there was a huge immediate drop in soda consumption. We drink tea mostly, with milk. And limeade in the summer (and gin & tonics). Monthly alcohol budget should get its own thread though!
― Jaq, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)
Scik, reading "goes through a lot of coke" alarmed me at first.
Does alcohol count towards groceries? Unfortunately we go through a lot of that. Oh wait, I see what Jaq just wrote.
We buy a lot of red meat and fresh produce. Which can be high especially when the latter spoils before eating.
― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)
I need to start properly budgeting this, but I'm a bit scared to find out. (It might scare me into a slightly healthier and more home-cooked diet, but cooking for one when you don't really know how and don't do it enough to have a well-stocked cupboard can be demoralisingly slow and expensive.)
So far the UK answers are twice+ the US ones; I'll be interested to see if the UK ones break down geographically, after being amazed how much cheaper everything (cooking basics, ready meals, snacks and other junk) was in various city supermarkets to back home in a one-supermarket village.
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
Wine consumed at home does with us. Which is anything between two and seven bottles a week.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)
I must say that although I know we spend a decent amount on booze, it's considerably less than we went out all of the time.
― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)
There's a huge savings between eating/drinking at home and going out - the markup on a bottle of wine seems to be at least 100% in the restaurants around here.
spacecadet, I think one thing that keeps my food budget low is that I don't buy any premade or convenience foods. But then, I work at home and love to cook. I was baking all our bread for about a year, but haven't started back in on that.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:42 (seventeen years ago)
Haven't kept close track. I'd estimate around $400/month on groceries for the two of us. Maybe another $100-200/month on take-out and restaurant dinners. And I eat cheap lunches out a lot at work (sandwiches and such) so that's probably another $200/month. And I'm probably underestimating something, so maybe $900/month total? Alcohol is not a significant part of our budget.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)
we spend around $200-250 at the supermarket but maybe $10-15 of that is food for me and pp.
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)
per week, of course
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
like £800 pcm or something
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
: /
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
seriously I don't even want to work it out
and that is for 1xvegon + 1xvegetarion : /
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
100% is low markup the standard in the restaurant trade is 200-300% sometimes worse.
I haven't got a clue and can be very variable.
― Ed, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
wtf are you eating?!
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)
I worked it out at £440pcm, for two, on average... it's probably a lot less than that tbh but I was rounding up
xpost
vegon caviar and vegon cristal, almost exclusively
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)
plus wtf we cook all our meals from a scratch wtf
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
anyway I clock crazy dolla$$ so whatevs
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:56 (seventeen years ago)
Also this is the first time I've realised who you are. Another reason I need a serious new name amnesty.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
I'm better about cooking at home and using less pre-made, pre-packaged ingredients. It is hard though when you both have crazy schedules and little time at home/energy for food preparation.
― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:59 (seventeen years ago)
How much is it? - no idea, I pretty much stopped looking at/caring about the price of the food i buy (within SOME reason still) a while back
Where do you shop? - there's two shops around Clapton Pond i get food from - both owned by the same people (mostly if not all Turkishh). one of them's all-organic and they seem to be doing pretty well with it. go to M&S maybe once a week but only for a few things (inc their ready-moussaka for when lazy, which is often). do an online Ocado order once a month or so (never seem to get round to it often enough. get a bag of local veg and fruit every week also
― blueski, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)
spend at least £25 a week on lunch at work yaow
― blueski, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)
In terms of what I actually buy my breakdown is pretty similar to Remy's I think but I'm sure I'm not spending nearly that much. I'd be surprised if it was £20 a week. I buy a lot of stuff like big bags of nearly-for-the-dumper veg from fruit and veg stalls and then cook and eat the hell out of it before it's too late
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)
uh I think I probably spend about $80/month on groceries and another $800-1200/month on restaurant meals/drinks.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
I spend probably $120 a month on groceries and like $600-1000 on restaurants. Looking forward to new job with CHEF.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)
Funny you should start a thread about this, just as I am overhauling my monthly food budget. I've realised that I end up spending wayyyyy too much without even thinking about it so May is the month of BUDGETARY CLAMPDOWN. I have made spreadsheets.
― C J, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)
we also set up a spreadsheet. man, was it depressing. :-(
― stevienixed, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:54 (seventeen years ago)
(posted while i'm eating broccoli, potatoes and fresh tuna. hah)
― stevienixed, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)
I dont keep track but I guess I spend at least $60 a week AUD on groceries (and that isnt counting booze, lordy no) but I have fallen into bad buy lunch at work habits, so $10 a day x 5 ads up and I dont want to think about that.
Went to make a roast beef the other day and beef is SO freaking expensive wtf.$25 for a 1.2kg topside? Fuck orf. So we've been eating chicken and canned tuna instead.
― Trayce, Friday, 9 May 2008 11:03 (seventeen years ago)
spend about €180 each week on food, breaks down into €30 for lunches at work, €50 on maybe two takeouts and the other €100 on five €20-a-go trips to get stuff to cook that evening.
lunch is just me, takeouts and €100 groceries includes brother and SO depending on who'll be at home that evening.
― darraghmac, Friday, 9 May 2008 11:19 (seventeen years ago)
i try to keep it to around fiddy (USD) a week - not counting like a night out w/ dinner that probably happens twice a month or so. That goes under the entertainment budget.
― will, Friday, 9 May 2008 11:24 (seventeen years ago)
I begrudgingly did the math for my budget this summer, and after taking out money for rent (both here in NY and in Boulder, where I'm staying for a few months) and utilities...I have around $250 extra. This is supposed to pay for all of my food and whatever else over the next two months.
A few years ago I was in a similar situation and made lentil or pasta for myself nearly every night. It was ok for a while but quickly became unbearable. What's the best way to eat extremely cheaply but with a hint of variety?
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:15 (seventeen years ago)
Rising food prices are kicking my ass WAY more than rising gas prices.
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
ZS, this is a good blog about food:
http://cheaphealthygood.blogspot.com/
As are a lot of its side links. This one can be a bit fancy-pants sometimes. Are you a veg or no?
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)
yes. I'm looking through the link now.
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, that site has a lot of veg options. Her boyfriend is a veg and she might be too. A lot of the 'cheap food' sites have 843 tips on how to stretch your ground beef so I didn't know if you'd want those.
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
"Budget", riiiiiiite.
― libcrypt, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)
I hit F12 and brought up the Dashboard calculator - it's a budget, dammit!
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)
Libcrypt sent me a sweet tater/peppers soup I could email if you want. It is fucking yum and good and healthy and about $10 for a weeks' worth of food. (You can freeze up leftovers.)
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)
If that's okay, libcrypt?
I think she's a vegetarian, Abbott! "If that’s it, then everyone can relax. I am not deprived. I don’t starve (which you could tell if you could see me), and I enjoy the food I eat. I don’t even miss the meat. Sometimes I get a little wistful when I think of crab cakes or smell fried chicken, but it doesn’t last. I savor the memories and enjoy the vegetarian bounty before me."
Then again, on the sidebar there are links to plenty to "meat and fish" dishes. Nice link, though, thanks!
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)
One idea that's helped me: get spices from a store w/bulk spices so you spend 40¢ on the cumin you need and not $4 on a bottle of old cumin.
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)
Oh man, that would be great. Peppers are my favorite.
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
"This has been your pathetic weenie update of the day"
― Z S, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)
There's really nothing wrong with not eating perfectly or picking up the store-brand pilaf for dinner.
― Abbott, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)
it is astounding how much we spend on food now that we have a 2 year old. It's something ridiculous like $180/wk on AVERAGE. that includes some non-edibles but doesn't include diapers and stuff. Part of this is that we've decided to eat almost everything at home; part is that we try to buy organic when possible; we live in the bay area and shit is expensive; and partly, our son, who used to eat whatever you gave him, has suddenly gotten picky, so we're trying varieties of things lately and he's not eating half of it. you never know when he's going to gorge himself on something or eat one bite and declare dinner over.
we try shopping at trader joe's but after a while their food all tastes the same and you need to go to berkeley bowl or something, anything...
I hate buying groceries so much. I remember when I was a kid I ate wonder bread and oscar meyer and that was it, I'm sure my parents spent $10/wk on food. on the other hand I wound up with ulcers and stomach surgeries by the time I was 18; hopefully my son will have a better diet than I did
― akm, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
around $200 for just myself, which is a lot, and i don't buy meat. i am living in denmark, though, where it seems like the minimum price for anything is $5.
― Maria, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)
i just spent as much on a week's groceries for me as my mom used to spend on a family of four :( that makes me feel like a shit.
― bell_labs, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)
however i didn't realize the cherries were going to be $13!!!!! how is that even possible. i need to pay more attention.
― bell_labs, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)
I don't know, I keep reading "buy lots of fresh produce instead of processed food" as a tip for saving money on groceries but it just doesn't seem to be true! Compared to a lot of processed food, fresh produce is quite expensive for the amount of it you have to eat to fill up.
― Maria, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)
it really depends! some vegetable are so cheap and can be made into filling things, like potatoes, onions, kale, etc. i thought cherries were in season though and didn't even really look at the price, and damn. so expensive. the other big ticket items were fish, olive oil, that kind of thing. i love making fish but it seems like for whatever bulk deal they are getting at the sushi place by my house, they serve me more and higher quality fish per $1 spent than i can even buy at the supermarket.
― bell_labs, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:58 (seventeen years ago)
hmm: from what i can see, processed food is often way cheaper than fruit and veg, which means most "eat healthy" drives are doomed. the other week, i stood behind a youngish couple loading up the conveyor belt with crisps, microwave curries and big bottles of pop and watched the running total on the till, which shows the "total saved" through 2-for-1 offers etc. theirs was about £10. mine (and i'm not saying i'm some fucking paragon of eating healthily, but we didn't have any microwave curries/crisps/pop) was less than a quid.
tesco is pretty good for special offers on fruit and veg (today: satsumas; also fucking asparagus, as always, which really can swivel) but even so ...
cherries, btw: always eye-poppingly expensive. £6 in tesco, bell labs, so that pretty much matches up.
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 23 May 2008 23:02 (seventeen years ago)
I thought of buying some cherries in a farmer's market last week for $9, but got $7 strawberries instead. I'm grateful not to have to shop at the absolutely most utilitarian level, but geez, maybe we should just buy a farm.
― Maria, Friday, 23 May 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
oh i want a farm. i can't wait to at least have a decent garden! which is not going to happen in my apartment any time soon! but someday.
― bell_labs, Friday, 23 May 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
i also want an oyster bed. i think i could be a good oyster farmer.
― bell_labs, Friday, 23 May 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
£200 plus treats.
― not_goodwin, Friday, 23 May 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)
I want herb pots on the windowsills, at least, but am not sure if they're worth buying since I'm leaving in 3 weeks anyway. Someone in the house will probably want them, anyway.
― Maria, Saturday, 24 May 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)
fruit is fucking expensive
― akm, Saturday, 24 May 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
$200, yes, I think at least 1/3 of that is fruit!
― youn, Saturday, 24 May 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)
these cherries are really great, at least.
― bell_labs, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:00 (seventeen years ago)
I don't really ever eat fruit, except limes or lemons in water. Most fruit is too sweet for my palate. I know that there are less-sweet fruits, like melons or whatever, but they seem like such an investment. I should get on the apricot train, though...or get knee-deep into figs and persimmons and such...
I just spent, like almost ten bucks at the food store and have almost nothing to show for it. Food prices getting higher, man.
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:01 (seventeen years ago)
the prices on the good fruit are insane this year. i'm betting the special WA state raspberries will hit $15.
― gabbneb, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)
I will weep tonight and light a candle in solemn recognition of the personal hardship that you will endure if such developments do in fact come to pass.
It pains me to think that you might miss out on the "special WA state rasberries".
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)
strawberries were actually 2/$5 at fairway and they are pretty great. and somehow i only paid $3 for 10 fiji apples. i think the cashier made a mistake.
― bell_labs, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)
hi dell, I am sorry about your pain, but I pay the asking price for the "special WA state raspberries," (there's a p in that word), whatever the number
― gabbneb, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)
You're such an elitist fuck, bless your heart.
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)
I want Lauren to give me cooking lessons.
― Virginia Plain, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)
thanks, dell! i am eating an extremely elitist strawberry from Davenport, CA ($10/quart).
― gabbneb, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)
$10/pint, I mean
those driscoll's organic strawberries (white lettering) are pretty good in season
― gabbneb, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
Okay, I'm feeling really really lucky right now to live where stone fruits grow really well. Right now, I can get California apricots and peaches (the apricots were okay, the peaches were really meh), but when they come in season here (late June) they are just so perfectly good. Never really cheap, but paying $4 or $5/lb for pretty local, tree ripe, farmers market ones >>> than paying the same or more for woody tasteless ones from Mexico and farther. Cherries start in mid- to late June as well, and go through almost to August, and berries sometime in early July almost through September. And the place is inundated with blackberries that you can pick in parks and along easements.
Z S, it's okay to be worried about your cooking mojo, but you'll be fine. Set yourself the goal of trying one cheap vegetable/fruit/ingredient each week, something you're not quite sure what to do with. Then try some stuff with it. If you get stuck, post about it and people will give you ideas. And really, the only thing you really need to learn how to make is a sort of soup. That's your base. Then you riff on it, adding some different spices, some fresh stuff, maybe some cheese or cubes of tofu or a beaten egg or milk or cream or sour cream or yoghurt. And so what if you eat ramen or rice-a-roni when you want it? You might find yourself looking at it going "I wonder if I could braise a little chopped kale, then sort of stirfry it with the leftovers from this, then maybe mix up some some hot sauce and sour cream to kind of make a dressing?"
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
gabbneb, can you get marionberries back east? They can be so incredibly good, but the season is only 2 weeks or so.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)
i don't recall having seen them, jaq. huckleberries, either.
― gabbneb, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)
dell, if you think fruit's too sweet, just stick with vegetables.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)
jaq, do you know anything about aquaculture?
― bell_labs, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
gabnebb, i'm sorry for being a dick. don't mind me.
i love the way "stone fruits" sounds. so poetic.
"i gave my love a cherry, which had no stone..."
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
jaq,
yeah, i heart kale and, well, pretty much any vegetable, esp. the deep green ones to no end.
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)
Only a little bell, from doing some work in fish hatcheries. Not so much for the fish farming itself. I was reading some stuff recently that made me wonder about some of the practices, but I haven't looked into it much.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)
There's so many veg that are just as sweet if not sweeter than fruits - beets and parsnips and carrots, especially when roasted. Sweet corn, obv. but also fresh peas. None of them have the same mix of tart and sweet that fruits have, more a sweet green-ness instead. </rhapsodizing>
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)
uh "there are so many..." got carried away there and lost my grammar.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:41 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, i don't like carrots or winter vegetables, particularly, but, still, cannot think of a vegetable that i can rage against in full
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 02:46 (seventeen years ago)
I too am really not a fruit person at all - but gimme the veg and gimme a ton, I love brocolli, sauteed in garlic italian-style, spinach or silverbeet, chickpeas and lentils, roasted root veg, pumpkin soup, beetroot chips, mashed potato, baby peas, roasted capsicum...nyom nyom.
― Trayce, Saturday, 24 May 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)
And really, the only thing you really need to learn how to make is a sort of soup. That's your base. Then you riff on it...
This is encouraging advice, especially because one of the few things I can confidently cook is a mean pot of veggie chili, which usually provides tons of leftovers.
― Z S, Saturday, 24 May 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)
spinach is so beautiful, and so easy to make delicious. it's our friend.
i dunno what "silverbeet" is, but, i'm curious.
― dell, Saturday, 24 May 2008 04:36 (seventeen years ago)
From what I can tell its a bit like kale. A rough, thicker leaf, wrinkly, with a thick, celery-like stem you usually cut out and dont use (but can make for good stock?). Seems to need a lot more rinsing for grit and cooking down than limpy spinach, but that means it keeps a good structure in a curry or stir fry.
I grew up much of my life beliving it was spinach, because boiled that was what we were served and thats what mum called it. When I discovered real spinach I was very suprised.
― Trayce, Saturday, 24 May 2008 11:43 (seventeen years ago)
Silverbeet's another name for chard - it's not nearly as bitter as kale, and you can actually eat the stems too, just put them in the pan first and let them cook a bit before you add the leaves. It's excellent sauted in olive oil with some chopped garlic and a little crushed red pepper.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 13:51 (seventeen years ago)
AKM OTM re expensive living with a 2yr old. I think I'll keep breastfeeding Elisabeth (our second) till she's out of the house. roffle.
hmm: from what i can see, processed food is often way cheaper than fruit and veg
Huh? I was always thght it was actually more expensive?!? I do buy frozen veggies (and even fruit) cause that's cheaper (and sometimes healthier) than fresh fruit 'n' veggies.
I prefer not to think about what we spend on food (nor anything else). It's just... sad. :-(
― stevienixed, Saturday, 24 May 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
My food bill goes way down in summer due to work on farmer's market stall and I do not pay for vegetables at all until October. I don't think there is anyone better at shopping for food on a budget than my mom, and she taught me to buy special offers and plan around those for eat-in meals when I was like 10 so I'm hardwired for that. Normally I spend about £25 at the supermarket every week (including toiletries etc), plus lots of £5 meals out. I spend maybe £10 on booze a week not including in pubs, but my party drinking is usually at art dinners or other places where canapés are served.
Chard is awesome. There's a trend here for the chard with stems of many different colours, seen those yet?
Also is there any vegetable on Earth that does not taste better sauteed with garlic?
― suzy, Saturday, 24 May 2008 14:14 (seventeen years ago)
rainbow chard - i love it!
grimly, re: frozen spinach - yes, it does give off a lot of water (even the fresh stuff does if you do more than a quick saute to wilt it). i've found that the best way to handle the issue is to buy the larger bags (not the solid blocks) and thaw/heat on the stove as opposed to the microwave and then strain with the colander.
― lauren, Saturday, 24 May 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
(that may sound like extra work, but it's not - the spinach thaws while you cook some other part of the dinner, and it takes about 2 minutes to strain.)
― lauren, Saturday, 24 May 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)
I've been thinking about this for most of the morning. Fairly definite the answer is no, with the possible exceptions of fresh peas and sweet corn. I think working at a farm stand would be awesome - was talking to the counter-guy at the fishmonger (in Pike Place market, but not the boisterous crowd-pleasing throwing-fish guys), he was so pleased to be working there as opposed to the retail warehouse thing he'd been doing at the same time a year ago. Open air but covered, near excellent but cheap food purveyors, and he was learning about all the different kinds of fish and how to cook them. I may need to start plotting my next career step.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 May 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
lauren: yes, something very like that occurred to me last night while i was typing. quite why i didn't occur to me when i was in the kitchen cooking ... well, that probably explains why mrs fiendish doesn't let me near the knives/hobs/etc very often.
― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 24 May 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)
No, I can see situations where peas and corn on the cob could come into contact with garlic. My favourite sweetcorn recipe: dip in melted paprika-infused butter before rolling in milled black pepper and sea salt.
Also re: fresh spinach, love how it essentially cooks the second hot liquid meets it. This is why spinach soup with hot veg stock and cream made in blender is quick and num.
― suzy, Saturday, 24 May 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)