Classic. Good business. Gets them drunker and keeps them coming back.
Tip $2 on the first drink and $1 after, be polite and understanding if the bar is busy and it takes a while, and you'll get your 3rd or 4th drink free at just about any bar in New York.
And if you do this at your local, within a few months you'll sometimes get your first drink free.
Unless you're at Daddy's, of course.
― thirdalternative, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.or-die-trying.com/dietrying.jpg
― AJ Styles, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
so you have to pay $5 for a free drink? cool.
― Thomas, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)
Buyback is a term that originated in gay slang to describe acts of unprotected sex, especially anal sex.
― gershy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)
omg stop posting
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)
this is a foreign concept in little rock.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
You don't actually have to over-tip, although it helps. As someone else has just pointed out, probably 75% of the time all you have to do is be a good regular customer who drinks when it's not too busy to be noticed, and is understanding about things, and is engaging with the staff.
If you object to the idea of any of those things, feel free to do your thing! But don't claim that buybacks don't exist in the places you go.
Except at Daddy's.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
so now do we have a thread about bottles vs. draught? or perhaps bouncer etiquette
― AJ Styles, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
I have heard people of the British persuasion have different views on tipping, perhaps this can be explored with hilarious consequences
also: hipster tacos, C/D?
― dmr, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:53 (seventeen years ago)
good regular customer who drinks when it's not too busy to be noticed, and is understanding about things, and is engaging with the staff.
OK, this was not part of the original statement. Though I frequent some places more often than others, I don't consider myself a regular anywhere, and I don't really ever talk to bartenders, unless the place is super-dead. I don't think I'm all that unusual in that regard, though.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:54 (seventeen years ago)
It's just weird that New Yorkers seem to know about it as a concept and I never would've heard about it if not for ILX. But maybe I'm not as much of an alcoholic as you guys are, lol.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)
LOL CIRRHOSIS
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)
not to stir the pot, but i've seen the mythical buyback occur in chicago.
― lauren, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)
roffle @ dmr
― sleep, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
it's more of a lowkey neighborhood-y thing, going to some typ brooklyn hipster hangout, esp on crowded nights, it ain't gonna happen.
i get them in la too, not just new york deal
― gershy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
I've gotten buybacks in:
LA Omaha Baltimore DC various parts of Maryland and Virginia and other places I probably don't even recall
this is so dumb
― AJ Styles, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
buybacks: classic or so dumb
― andrew m., Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)
ABC = Always Be Cool
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway, it totally doesn't surprise me if you're a regular and talk to the staff. Now that I think about it, Brian at Leadway used to give me a free beer every now and again. But I just thought of that as Brian being a nice guy, rather than a "buyback" that conformed to some larger code of bartender etiquette.
-- jaymc, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:03 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS TERRIFYING AMERICAN CONCEPT
s'good business to be honest, house markup generally runs at 60-70% G.P so the drink cost is factored in several times over by the time you get your buyback
― Matt, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)
xpost - thank god for the xls
― jaxon, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)
gersh i went to footsies last night and thought of you
― max, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
got no buybacks tho
hmmmm, can't recall if i ever got one there
― gershy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)
Just go to a cheaper bar.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
or better yet, drink at home.
― ian, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
yeah that's the best solution of all. give YOURSELF a buyback.
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)
"This coffee shop sucks - you need 20 punches on your card for a free latte!"
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)
I've had bartenders often say (here in NJ) "that one's on me" during the course of a night.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)
I've never known it to be called a "buyback," I've always called it "getting comped"
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
I've never even called it anything but a "free beverage".
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
i get buybacks all the time. maybe they just don't like you. -- tehresa, Monday, April 16, 2007 6:40 PM (Yesterday)
maybe you're a lush? -- JW, Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:17 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
MN also uses the "getting comped" terminology in my experience. only happens to regulars though, but if you do it right, you can average about a 50% free ratio.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:53 (seventeen years ago)
What is a buyback? I normally just get free drinks from bartenders who are interested in me sexually.
― jeff, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
KEY STRATEGY: double your normal tip on the comped drink. in the bar world, this is known as "proferring a bribe to get more drinks for free"
xpost
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
That's a buyback.xpost
― G00blar, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
all language ever in fact originated as gay slang
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
I think you're thinking of bareback.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
I never get buybacks. I usually figure it's because the bartender already thinks they're doing me a favor by serving alcohol to a 12 year old.
― Z S, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)
This doesn't happen in australia bcuz tipping bartenders doesn't happen.
― wilter, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:58 (seventeen years ago)
OMFG
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:02 (seventeen years ago)
i KNOW
― wilter, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)
Well I might as well compare buybacks to Hitler at this point.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
WILTER = HILTER
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
hold on i was pretty sure there was an established universal tipping etiquette procedure in place
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
Oh, now I get it! In the UK we call them jollygoods so I was confused lol!
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
NO
― wilter, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
XPOST
I got several of these in Williamsburg last month, but rarely in LA.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:07 (seventeen years ago)
i think we really ought to get to the bottom of this tipping disparity before we move forward on the issue of buybacks
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
xpost, that would be free drinks and not whatever it is someone mentioned upthread.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)
wait how do you get free drinks again?
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)
come over to my house
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)
and then tip him more than a dollar per drink
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)
But I just thought of that as Brian being a nice guy, rather than a "buyback" that conformed to some larger code of bartender etiquette.
I've never thought of it as etiquette or exchange, just something at the bartender's discretion for being a good customer or even just nice.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
You tip anyone well in any field and nice things are bound to happen.
I've encountered this everywhere EXCEPT the cowboytacular bar I walk to from my house. The guy (bartender) seems uncomfortable with the mere presence of my friend and I secretly indulging in girly drinks. Plus this bar does not have ginger ale (7-up/coke/bitters thing just ain't the same). Yes, this bar is mediocre. BUT: I can walk there.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)
Point: bartenders can be nice and generous, and so can you.
unless you live in england
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)
englande
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)
Or Australia (bcuz we don't tip bartenders)
― wilter, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:44 (seventeen years ago)
Everyone in the world can be nice and generous, but in American bars this can display itself in a relationship between a customer sharing extra money and a bartender dispensing of extra alcohol at no charge.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)
i think that australia is a state that is in england though right xpost
― John Justen, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)
Even without 'buybacks' a bartender, when tipped, gets a very heavy wrist.
Catching up on this thread has convinced me to walk on down to my local, where the Wednesday bartender only charges for about half my drinks.
― dan m, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)
if it weren't raining i'd think about joining you.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:25 (seventeen years ago)
i give free shit to regulars/nice customers all the time, even tho tips are uncommon here. this is what rude ppl don't seem to understand: be nice to your waitress and she shall be nice to you.
there is a middle aged lesbian couple who have been coming to my restaurant for 8 yrs and who recently gave me a handmade journal as a farewell gift, so i paid for their meal.
― Rubyredd, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:42 (seventeen years ago)
Walter you do know we've done the "LOL we dun tip here haha" thing before rite? Rite?
Excuse me I have some salt to pout all over my food I'll brb.
― Trayce, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)
yuh
― wilter, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:46 (seventeen years ago)
I feel like this thread is happening in an alternate timeline.
― Yerac, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)
IN A WORLD
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:55 (seventeen years ago)
ONE DOLLAR
how is this not a poll
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buybacks yes no waht unicorns who the fuck are you? its my birthright im european just tip well and be cool
step yr game up homes
― jhøshea, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:01 (seventeen years ago)
we had that poll
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)
ok so the reason australians dont tip a dollar per drink is because they use the euro, right?
― John Justen, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)
we had a buybacks poll how did i miss that - r u sure yr not thinking tipz poll?
― jhøshea, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)
yes, the AU€
xp
― wilter, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)
I thought our money were all baht or something nowdays.
― Trayce, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)
rupees
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)
This is so awesome. And also, exactly what I'm talking about.
― dan m, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)
or was talking about in whatever other out of 3-4 threads this topic came up in this after noon
― dan m, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)
When I used to pick up my mom from Applebee's after she finished her shift, I'd sit at the bar with these two gay guys who owned a restaurant across the street and came to Applebee's afterward to drink and BS. I'd give them footrubs and they'd buy me mozzarella sticks and a coke. It was all very sweet.
― Abbott, Thursday, 8 May 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)
Australia uses the Aero, which is some kind of conspiracy
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 8 May 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
-- Rubyredd, Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:42 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link
i thought that said gave me a handjob for a second
― s1ocki, Thursday, 8 May 2008 06:08 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah we don't exchange money for goods and services down here, we just place a value upon items with a series of grunts and hand gestures and then take things.
― Trayce, Thursday, 8 May 2008 06:43 (seventeen years ago)
Slocki - roffle so did I actually.
Ingrates, we give you pounds shillings and pence and this is how you repay us.
― Ed, Thursday, 8 May 2008 06:45 (seventeen years ago)
you guys are pervy O_o
― Rubyredd, Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:04 (seventeen years ago)
I don't understand Americans.
Everyone in the world can be nice and generous, but in American bars this can display itself in a relationship between a customer sharing extra money and a bartender dispensing of extra alcohol at no charge
IF YOU GIVE MONEY FOR IT, THE DRINK IS NOT 'FREE', EH, WTF?!
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)
Shall we have the foreskin conversation now?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:18 (seventeen years ago)
in america, we have secret free bars
― gershy, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)
in america everything is amazing and perfect
― jhøshea, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)
ESPECIALLY the bus.
― ian, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
Local, dive-y type bars are usually really good for the buyback. There was this shitty Chinese restaurant/karoake bar in the west Chicago suburbs we used to hang out in, I'd say on a typical night about 30% of our drinks were free. Of course, our group usually made up more than 3/4s of the crowd on any given Thursday.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
the drink is free, the service is what you're paying for.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.americantail.com/images/mice.gif
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)
Unless the cost of the drink in the first place is at wholesale, surely you're paying for the service in the ticket price?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
whatever you say tuomas scik mouthy.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)
you are getting dangerously close to haveing the US feudal tipping system explained to you, xpost.
― Ed, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:14 (seventeen years ago)
shipping AND handling, dog
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
I am aware the drinks, on some technical level that one can choose to consider, are not "free." What, are they supposed to give you a coupon for a 'free mixed drink of your choosing' which you immediately hand back to them? Would it satisfy your inner pedant if I said, "bartenders give you a drink"?
― Abbott, Thursday, 8 May 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)