i couldnt read the whole thread but i feel you amat. so i'm blindly throwing this out there. a) pop music isn't dead yet, b) pop music didn't arise from the academic culture that breeds formalist critics, c) academics generally (generally) condescend pop, though it isn't omitted from academic forums at all.
i posted abt these before, but there's a book abt dylan i got based on a j. lethem review but haven't yet read. Ricks ("the great British literary critic") supposedly does a damn good job reading Dylan against Tennyson, etc, and the seven deadly sins. Lots of jackasses have tried it, and one succeeds.
as for more current music Adam Krim wrote a book called Rap Music and the Poetics of Identity, or something. I thought he was way off base most of the book, but he presents a fantastic general notion that Pop Matters wishes it could touch. His theory is that classical music theory is now a dead system (post serialists, bcs he discludes modern composers, for whom the genres of music theory decay. the difference btwn academically condescended "middlebrow" "IDM" and a theoretically modern composition would often not exist if someone arranged IDM differently) and now even theory should fall under Musicology, which would branch out fairly to all forms of music, because artistic merit cannot be rationed by faggots who condescend anything they think is "low" because they smack a bitch and say faggot.
my reverse classism is obviously getting the better of my writing here.
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:52 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
i was offbase on that idm comment obv. hella academic books have been written abt microacoustics as the future of music
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:55 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
I DONT THINK ANYONE SHOULD WRITE A FORMAL CRITICISM OF LIZ PHAIR FOR AT LEAST A FEW DECADES
-- peter $., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:56 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
but i think formal criticism of rap is absolutely necessary for the survival of american culture
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:56 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
or an academic embrace, at least. the problem is that rap destroys genres more basically than dylan or liz
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:58 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
is rap modern literature that's culturally infused with knowledge unknown for centuries? of course! but we need someone better than adam krim's AZ lovin' ass
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 16:59 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
ethan to thread!
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:01 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
ethan if you can hear me go to college and rib all those pretentious fuckasses one by one until you publish a study in some theory periodical abt B.G.!
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:03 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:37 (seventeen years ago)
ethan if you can hear me go to college and rib all those pretentious fuckasses one by one until you publish a study in some theory periodical abt B.G.!
-- peter $.., Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:03 (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
^^^^ bow down
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)
I'll miss him 'til I see him, goddammit.
-- Abbott, Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:36 PM (Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:36 PM) Bookmark Link
Yeah, where are these "OMG LOIS JACKER IS BACK" threads hidden?
― rev, Friday, 30 May 2008 00:39 (seventeen years ago)
just got offed is the poster formerly not quite known as Chewy Jogger, right? In which case, his return is no skin off my nose. On his more housebroken days he can be a charming and pleasant fellow.
Welcome back, young sir. You do not mind overly if I roll up the carpet, do you? It's a Kerman.
― Aimless, Friday, 30 May 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)