ILX POSTERS WHO ARE YOUNG AND AWARE OF CONTEMPORARY SUBCULTURAL MOVEMENTS: WHAT ARE THE WORST CONTEMPORARY SUBCULTURAL MOVEMENTS

you're barely below the surface there mister

http://www.werewolf.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?daysprune=&f=19&s=

Steampunk
Neo-burlesque

Vile

LARPers are awful, yes. Although it reminds me of the best line from Consolevania, viz:

"I've got nae thing against cosplay. Gives fat girls a chance to dress up."

Nu-Dyson performance art.

What is "steampunk" (I may regret asking this, I know)

Obv I am neither young nor aware of contemporary subcult. movements

What is "steampunk" (I may regret asking this, I know)

-- Pashmina, Monday, 9 June 2008 10:49 (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Basically it's dressing up like characters from 19th century science fiction, like in that Smashing Pumpkins video.

It's a harmless idea in concept, but sadly it's populated by the aspie wing of the Bullingdon Club.

Live-action roleplaying has been around for years, as have "Polyamorous pagan nerds who never shave their armpits" I mean I knew ppl who answered this description in the mid-nineteeneighties.

This is the thread where ILXORs complain about those having more fun than them.

Oh yeah, I remember "steam punk" the "literary" genre, like a wellsian take on cyberpunk. i read "The Difference Engine" years ago, it was OK. I didn't realise there was a subculture based around it.

What exactly are you supposed to do when you're dressed up in yr victorian finery, wave a curta mechanical calculator around or domething?

dom are you gonna post hate mail from puppini sisters fans itt or what

There was a bunch of LARP-ers who used to play in Chopwell Wood, which is walking distance away from us, but they were D&D types, I haven't seen them in years. Usually these days you get assholes on mountain bikes who have entitlement issues w/r/t use of the paths there, I think I prefer the LARPers to that.

This is the thread where ILXORs complain about those having more fun than them.

-- Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 10:58 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

We'll line up these fucking steampunk douches, and then we'll line up me getting buckwild in Lloyds on a Friday night, and I can tell you which one has the higher seratonin levels.

There is quite a lot of activity online where people have taken old typewriters and converted them into rather beautiful computer keyboards and the like. I have a soft spot for the heavy duty craft activity that steampunk seems to inspire.

quality not quantity, Dom.

What exactly are you supposed to do when you're dressed up in yr victorian finery, wave a curta mechanical calculator around or domething?

-- Pashmina, Monday, 9 June 2008 10:59 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

They just drink gin. I mean, I'm all for drinking gin, but I can drink gin in a Threadless t-shirt and some Evisu, y'know?

I suppose I should ask what neo-burlesque is, I'm guessing people in tight corsets fan-dancing like the Lord Chamberlain's office is still in effect? Seems harmless enough if so.

This is the thread where ILXORs complain about those having more fun than them.

Longest thread in ILX history then?

I suppose I should ask what neo-burlesque is, I'm guessing people in tight corsets fan-dancing like the Lord Chamberlain's office is still in effect? Seems harmless enough if so.

-- Pashmina, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:02 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

www.peeptoe.co.uk/

Now, should I click on that or not.

I mean, it's good for a chug or two, but the high esteem that people who are basically sex industry workers hold themselves in is kinda ridic.

Empowerment innit

read the puppini sisters thread instead, pash

the 5th google hit for my name is from when i unwisely participated in a LARP-related assassins' activity, i'm allowed to harbour bitterness

Eh, slightly nsfw, digging bettie page isn't exactly new either, is it.

That's the thing, with steampunk or neo-burlesque, I'm cool with the aesthetic of it. I used to have a broad who was up for that whole pencil skirt/Bettie fringe/sex-doll mouth look as well, I fuck w/it. But the people who engage in it are... repellent.

me getting buckwild in Lloyds on a Friday night

the "casual mentions of dangerous or illicit hobbies" thread's gonna be bulging at the seams here son

nah I think we already got the perfect Passantino zing there, been storing that one up for MONTHS

altho yeah you were obviously being sarcastic, i'll just hold my hand up and say "sorry", thus preventing a 500-post flameout

That's the thing, with steampunk or neo-burlesque, I'm cool with the aesthetic of it. I used to have a broad who was up for that whole pencil skirt/Bettie fringe/sex-doll mouth look as well, I fuck w/it. But the people who engage in it are... repellent.

Word

xxp

Man, I just roll up in Lloyds, peel them bucks off, and the barstaff are all like "You want a double for £1 extra?", and I'm like "Go for it bruv, can I get a bag of Thai Sweet Chilli Sensations as well?". Shrouds don't have pockets, y'know?

in the us there's a sizable subculture of guys who re-enact Civil War battles w/vintage uniforms, cannons etc.

not sure where the legacy of slavery - the reason behind the C.W. - fits in but yeah these dudes are white.

First pick for Youtube "steampunk" search is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ym3KlJ_BE

??? Er....

steampunk guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf64SaEnz8&NR=1

I recognise the gearwheels from a Lego technical set I had when I was a kid.

Steampunk as an aesthetic beats nu-rave and LARP hands-down, even if its participants are Doctor Who slashfic writers (and ex-LARPers)

Neo-burlesque is all Nathan Barley types, isn't it? Does it even exist outside London?

"neo burlesque" search brings up this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9dnTYhaAMo

I dunno, it doesn't look like a whole lot of fun to me. Stuff like this probably had some meaning when it was actually pushing boundaries in some way (IE in THE FIFTIES) what does it mean in a world when everyone's seem goatse man and tubgirl? Maybe I'm just unimaginative.

where do KITTEN!!!!! fetishists fit into this

what does it mean in a world when everyone's seem goatse man and tubgirl

I haven't

Neo-burlesque is all Nathan Barley types, isn't it? Does it even exist outside London?

-- Tom D., Monday, 9 June 2008 10:27 (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

I guess that "neo-burlesque" up here would entail the same thing as it's always done, going to see a stripper at a pub. It never did it for me, but w/e, you know.

nearly everyone, then.

How about flashmobbers? They're pretty annoying.

Flash mobbers and their subset, "improv" dudes, are cordially invited to lick the nuts.

I've never had any time for that musical genre, that only seems to exist in London, where blokes dress up in 50s suits and shit and try really hard to sound (and look) like Nick Cave and Tom Waits, those are kinda neo-burlesque people too

so who went out and panic-bought CARROTS????!?!??!?!

x-post Rockabilly types you mean? You get loads of them round Stoke NEwington, where I live. All pork pie hats and tatoos.

i went "mobile clubbing" in brighton once. it was a good few years ago and i'm pretty remorseful now but, y'know, if you insist dom.

A bit like them, but a bit more po-faced (xp)

student subculture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Gaveston_Society

No, people who actively engage in the subculture of training for pub quizzes, talking about quizzes on the internet, reading encyclopediae for the purpose of playing quizzes, applying for every quiz show out there, being able to name Mastermind champions off the back of their hand, etc.

xxp

Could so easily have gone down that road were it not for innate laziness and alcoholism.

there's mini-subcultures for all that kinda bar-team oriented stuff...dart league...pool leagues...the owner of the bar i cooked at in high school was mega into bar softball leagues, dudes would spend so much money on gear, there were even like weird wars trying to get particularly good players to change teams to another bar...there were like huge ass tournaments of 1000s of ppl in south dakota stuff like that they would travel to.

reading the encyclopaedia for purposes of pub quizzes must be so frustrating. i can barely read a novel from front to back and that at least has a plot.

xpost

Yeah, never get into shit with a women's darts team, it's a religion to those guys.

It sounds a lot more engaging that trying to memorize Scrabble bingo anagram lists.

xp

I'm a former Tetley Quiz League champion, btw.

xp yeah but imagine the irritation of not being able to skip to an interesting related topic because otherwise you might miss out on the content of the next entry? memorising a list of stuff which isn't very engaging seems kind of easier.

http://www.ftql.com/id57.html

Fallen Soldiers

http://wiseoldowls.tripod.com/champions_ko.htm

Holy shit our victory has been preserved for posterity.

Thanks to Dom P. for introducing me to the Aristasia wiki.

there's mini-subcultures for all that kinda bar-team oriented stuff...dart league...pool leagues...the owner of the bar i cooked at in high school was mega into bar softball leagues, dudes would spend so much money on gear, there were even like weird wars trying to get particularly good players to change teams to another bar...there were like huge ass tournaments of 1000s of ppl in south dakota stuff like that they would travel to.

― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, February 8, 2009 7:52 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sounds like that episode of cheers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/feb/16/morris-dancing-folk-revival

logical progression

Of course, folk music and certain other Pagan traditions have, on occasions, been hijacked by people for their own political means, and there is a perception of the morris dance symbolising rural little England, but thanks to new blood that is changing. (I even know of one former Creation Records guitarist who is now a devout dancer.)

^^^Thank God there are no former Creation Records employees with dodgy political views.

(I even know of one former Creation Records guitarist who is now a devout dancer.)

Has to be Bonehead, doesn't it.

Going with Mishka.

many xposts but omg guys Aristasians on LJ! hilarious

http://community.livejournal.com/aristasians/

'Super Maria Sisters' looollllzz

oh this one's even better

http://aristasia.wordpress.com/category/aristasians/

am sooo trying to resist reading all this aristasia stuff at work.

If anyone can actually live out the Monocle magazine lifestyle, it's the worst. Really lightweight cultural tourism, articles telling you which hotel has the best bellhop, and endorsement of the most overpriced products. Fun to read and I like buying it occasionally, but the fact that there's a magazine circulation means that there's an aspirational bit to this.

If you're really jet-setting around, buying the best travel bags from Japan, and going to the 'best' bars and restaurants, you're probably a good part of what's fucking up the world.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12597320/Aristasia

^^^Aristasia piece your correspondent wrote for Bizarre a few years back

DOM STOP TEMPTING ME!

WTF is that "operation Bridgehead" page even about? It is unreadable.

OTM

Aristesians seems to be kind of a weird inverse of the stupid sci-fi female slave world of Gor.

A better introduction.

(xxxp) Good article, gives a lot more detail than the Wikipedia entry does. Crucially, doesn't go overboard with subjective bile, lets the facts do the talking with a subtle air of disbelieving sarcasm. Understated Dom is a fine thing:

While these descriptions could be considered gentle coincidence...

I certainly didn't know about the circle system. Wondering if off-handedly asking a study-buddy of mine whether she was an Aristasian was a little closer to the truth than I suspected, hence her reticence in replying.

finally able to read at home--that was a really nice piece dom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/may/01/burlesque-performance-art-stripping

good on yer, camden council.

"It's an acceptable way to enjoy naughtiness", says Robert Harding, a 37-year-old recruitment consultant and burlesque fan. "I could admit to my girlfriend that a burlesque dancer turns me on, but I could never get away with saying the same thing about a lap dancer."

...

Roller derby is just the worst.

Actually, the worst is men who actively follow roller derby because they're turned on by pictures of women with bruises and broken noses

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 9 June 2008 17:06 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Went to this on Saturday. Not arousing in the slightest but as a sporting spectacle it's pretty bitchin'.

http://wondermark.com/c/2009-09-22-554fiction.gif

THE METABLADES

THE COSMOMANCERS

David Malki is a pretty funny dude tbh

THE NEUROOPOLIS

THE ASTRONAUTS!

this was the thread i was looking for to post about the tour-de-force of annoying subcultures party flyer i saw the other day!

THE PSYCHOPOMPS

THE BLACKNOIAC

burlesque is one thing, but...

this 1940s, waaf/wren, total war chic is some o_O shit.

http://www.vintagesecret.com/events/past_events/blitz_party_17th_oct

we saw some people dressed like this at the lexington a couple of sundays ago. may even have been her in that photo.

I dunno, as a look I think that's kind of hot. I'm not sure that would persuade me to sit in a Shoreditch railway arch pretending I'm in the Blitz, mind, as that night still sounds like the worst thing ever.

The mag I work at has a feature in its next issue about some fashion show that has a wartime theme - this is an actual quote from the person organising it: "People look at the 1940s as a glamorous time but in fact, this was a dark era."

Hahahahahahahahahaha that is priceless.

On the plus side if you go to one of these nights with half a dozen pairs of nylons and some chewing gum you'll be well away.

LOL Mencap. I'd like to think Edgy Style Mag would not publish anything quite that historically clueless. I blame J0hnny Verc0utre*; I also blame five solid years of popculturewarnostalgia. Who knew 'In the Mood' on infinite loop and a bunch of girls in tea dresses/WAC-WAVE uniforms would be THE THING?

*dude who basically lives in The 1940 House ('Time for Tea' on Shoreditch High Street) and has dressed in mid-century tweeds since the late '80s; he's cool and knows his stuff (and tries to live an early-'40s life in terms of mod cons, too) but the copyists will obviously have a more shallow pool of knowledge.

we met one of these girls in the princess louise and asked her if she was going to bloomsbury bowl. she did not look amused.

wanted to go to this but had trouble stitching the yellow star to my coat, butterfingers

>_< !!! seriously, would pay cashmoney to see you stage such an intervention.

Turn-of-century Paris revivalism, C/D

A fine night out with people who think that dying of syphilis was classy, don't know when WWI started, and want to tell you repeatedly how their mind is totally altered by a couple of shots of 21st century absinthe, with all potentially psychoactive plant extracts banned by food safety regulations? Sign me up!