Fun with the anti-Obama-freak- whoring National Press Club

Dude, the "National Aryan Brotherhood" doesn't have any money, as they are a PRISON group LOL. They deal in cigarettes, dumbass, and that don't buy no air time.

More misdirected liberal angst. You really hve nothing better to do with your time?

It took all of three minutes. Dude.

OK, well, next time maybe take five minutes and do a little research first, is all.

So what if the group he named does not have a lot of money? There are other racist group that do. The argument is still valid

More misdirected liberal angst.

...or just wanting to see a false rumor quashed before the dude we want to be the next President is damaged by it?

You really hve nothing better to do with your time?

No one who posts to a message board should ever, ever, ever make this accusation.

before the dude we want to be the next President is damaged by it

Careful with that 'we,' pal. Besides, Obama is going to win in a landslide - you think someone like Sinclair is going to afect things either way?

There are other racist group that do

What currently operating 'racist groups' have 'a lot' of money? Tell me. The Ku Klux Klan? LOL

"Inmates Barry Byron Mills, 54, and Tyler Davis Bingham, 55, have been able to continue running the gang from inside ADX, a prison designed and managed to isolate the country's worst criminals. A recent federal indictment alleges that over 23 years, 32 murders have been ordered, 16 of them successful, though Gotti's was not.

Mills and Bingham have helped the Aryan Brotherhood develop many criminal enterprises outside of prison walls across the country, last month's 110-page indictment, unsealed in Los Angeles, alleges.

Once released from prison, Aryan Brotherhood members move marijuana by the truckload across the country, according to the indictment. They shake down drug dealers and other profit-makers on the streets, extending the gang's behind-prison-walls practice of "taxing" profit-making criminal enterprises run by other white inmates."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/aryan_brotherhood/aryan_brotherhood5.html

Ooooooh, SIXTEEN murders in 23 years! Marijuana! Satan is alive and living on Earth as a member of the mighty, unstoppable "Aryan Brotherhood!"

You guys are ridiculous. There are suburban book clubs with more money than most fringe racist groups nowadays. And I think there are probably more annual unicycle accident-related deaths than citizens murdered by the so-called Aryan Brotherhood.

The real threat to Obama's candidacy is his wife, who can't seem to stop putting her foot in her mouth.

before the dude we want to be the next President is damaged by it

Careful with that 'we,' pal.

We liberals, chum ol' buddy ol' friend.

Besides, Obama is going to win in a landslide - you think someone like Sinclair is going to afect things either way?

Dunno, but given how that Swift Boat bullshit went down, it's not a bad idea to deal with these things as summarily and swiftly as possible.

xpost yeah like that time she said "whitey" oh wait oops

What currently operating 'racist groups' have 'a lot' of money?

whoever's paying your dsl bill

couldn't resist, carry on.

There are suburban book clubs with more money than most fringe racist groups nowadays.

If you keep changing your argument you can never be wrong. :)

Airport: So long as we're totally ignoring people's points/topics and arguing the veracity of meaningless subpoints, could you please clarify whether you mean strictly death by unicycle accident, or, more broadly, just accidents that happen to involve unicycles (like a unicyclist getting hit by a car)? Thank you for your time, which this thread suggests you have more of to waste on pointless argument than the original poster.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/06/signpost.php

^ UGH

I mean, thus far I'm getting a big zero on strict unicycle deaths, apart from one apocryphal-sounding guy-heard-of-a-guy story where a stage performer broke his neck.

Once we sort out this pressing, fundamental point, we can evaluate the argument about the Aryan Brotherhood, which will then finally allow us to heave a big sigh of relief and talk about the actual topic of the thread.

Yeah, see, I've been trying to sort out what the possibilities are for things like those badges, and there seem to be four options:

1. OPTIMISTIC: there will be lots of isolated incidents of people doing stuff like that, which the vast, vast majority of the country will find stupid and appalling and largely rise above

2. CYNICAL: a large amount of incidents will spark another of our "national discussions about race" that consist of a disturbing portion of people not seeing what the problem is and getting mad at everyone for even having to think about it in the first place

3. CYNICAL with SILVER LINING: a large amount of race-baiting abuse from the far-ish right will turn off the bulk of America as effectively as a lot of evangelical stuff once did; reasonable elements of the right will be forced to do some careful consideration and faction-splintering based on ugliness of some of those around them; Americans will be reminded that severe and camouflaged race issues still exist

4. REALISTIC: Everything will be sorted into narrative #1, which will be made vaguely true by dismissing the extent to which #2 and #3 have happened, and a lot of people who really felt that we were verging on #2 and #3 will be left a bit bruised and annoyed by everyone arguing with them that everything turned out fine (see: Clinton supporters / sexism)

Note also: I'm curious about Assholes' assertion that Obama will win in a landslide (but also that his wife is somehow still a threat to his assured-landslide candidacy)

My point is that it was news to me that the NPC was actually a for-profit trade show open to any frothing criminal lunatic with enough coin.

you think someone like Sinclair is going to afect things either way?

Yeah luckily whisper campaigns about a president's sexual peccadiloes and proclivities have no effect on the political climate or his ability to do his job amirite guys?

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And that seems like a reasonable point...but reasonableness doesn't always play so well on ilx.

I think 4 wins out, most will see and dismiss the blatantly racist crap which is played up by the media because it lets us all feel very self-righteous that we are not racists and that racial issues are limited to a small segment of jackasses.

Obama played against that easy track with first Rev. Wright speech obviously, which was awesome.

No one who posts to a message board should ever, ever, ever make this accusation.

so, so otm.

Larry SincLOL:

I blogged a few weeks back about a convicted criminal, Larry Sinclair, who'd been begging the media to cover his wild allegations about Barack Obama. Today Sinclair trotted into the National Press Club to air the allegations before what can literally be described as an audience of international press, and can more accurately be described as an amused bunch of people taking in a circus act.

It had been a difficult morning for Sinclair. The Politico's Ben Smith published a short feature on Sinclair's 27-year criminal record of fraud and petty crimes; Greta Van Susteren linked the story, and told viewers/readers why she has ignored him. "While the internet is a great communication and educational tool, it is also viral when it comes to smearing people," she wrote, prompting commenters to call her a cover-up artist and an agent of Barack Obama. It got worse when Sinclair's lawyer Montgomery Sibley—whose license is currently suspended in D.C. and Florida—showed up in a kilt and told reporters that his above-average endowment made slacks tight and uncomfortable. The Rev. James David Manning, who gained web celebrity in April for a YouTube'd sermon in which he called Obama a "long-legged mack daddy," sat in the crowd of 50 or so with his family. He didn't take questions.

How did Sinclair hold up? Rather terribly. He started with a lengthy statement that admitted most (not all) of his crimes and dispatched Sibley to run around the room with a microphone. As Seth Colter Walls recounts, most of the questions were legalistic and (somewhat) credulous. Sinclair was asked who funded the event (donors, over the internet), how he made his living (he's on disability), and whether Obama was "well hung" (I'm not going to dignify his answer here). The only new "evidence" he presented was the name of a limo driver and the bar where he claimed to have met Obama (who, in Sinclair's story, used his real name and job title as he rendevouzed with a cruising criminal he'd never met before).

I only got to ask one question: What time of day did Sinclair meet with Obama on November 6th and November 7th? In Sinclair's story, Obama partied with him on the 6th and traveled to his hotel in Gurnee, IL (an hour and change from Hyde Park) on the 7th. Sinclair smiled at the question. "We met in the early evening of November 6th," he said. "As far as a specific time on November 7th, I can not provide that to you." He added, parenthetically: "And I know where this question is coming from?"

"You know where this question is coming from?"

"Thank you." Sinclair moved on and Sibley refused to let me ask another question. Why didn't I wait until the end of the press conference and rush up to the accuser? The second Sinclair stopped taking questions, he fled the room and reporters were denied access to anyone but Sibley. I was a little disappointed until I heard the reason. Larry Sinclair was arrested after the press conference and is being held by the Washington, D.C. metropolitan police. He's been charged as a fugitive from justice; one of his warrants can be seen here.

Oh man, the kilt.

So really, the NPC was responsible for bringing him to justice.

oh, DC MPD and their misdirected liberal angst.

This is why we can't have nice things.

the level of detail at "If Assholes"' fingertips about the National Aryan Brotherhood is just a little crepey

What currently operating 'racist groups' have 'a lot' of money? Tell me.

"cause I've been looking for a place to go on Thursdays!"