Better industrial design

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Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

wrong

http://qpmstationery.com/Images/Products/EagleStapleRemover.jpg

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 02:00 (seventeen years ago)

right

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31EZDBD01EL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

wrong

http://www.cooking.com/images/products/shprodde/115695.jpg

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

right

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004WGUQ.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

eliminate moving parts whenever possible

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

at the expense of usability

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:26 (seventeen years ago)

I love my pizza cutter.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:27 (seventeen years ago)

moonship otm at least as far as the staple remover goes
I mean with that other thing why the fuck not just keep a philips head handy

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:57 (seventeen years ago)

better industrial design = have more than one purpose
cf. alton brown

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/313W5KZKFBL._SL500_AA250_.jpg

A+

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:58 (seventeen years ago)

can also be used for signalling when lost at sea etc

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 July 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)

Moonship, Tom - if you really think the claw is inferior functionally to the lever, I am quite certain that you have never compared the two in a work environment. The pizza knife and staple remover were both specifically chosen because they work much much better than the traditional versions.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

the lever is only moderately useful when removing staples from thicker than average documents; otherwise you can't get the same leverage that you can with the claw

the moon pizza cutter looks like there's far more potential for mess than with the traditional cutter

czn, Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

My experience says otherwise on both counts.

The lever is good up to about a half inch or so, and then the claw is even worse - it tends to tear shit up, for one thing, and break the staple so you have to tear shit up worse for another. In that case, an actual flathead (it's okay, Tom, it was late) screwdriver is better than the relatively less robust one I pictured up there.

As for the wheel vs. rocker knife, the latter is much easier to clean precisely BECAUSE it doesn't have moving parts. It also means you're not pushing anything back and forth spilling stuff all over the place. Pressure goes straight down for max cutting efficiency.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

scissors are much better than either of those pizza cutters for pizzas 12" or smaller

max, Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

... vs
http://www.brasscompass.com/corkscrew3.jpg

ledge, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

^ the fucking rolls royce of corkscrews

ledge, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

if you really think the claw is inferior functionally to the lever, I am quite certain that you have never compared the two in a work environment.

As someone who has to remove staples from legal documents all day (so they can be scanned) I say you are way wrong on this. The non-claw one only works well for very light staples/small numbers of pages.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

^that is what I am saying

czn, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:31 (seventeen years ago)

Fucking Rolls royce of corkscrews, but only as manufactured by british leyland. Mine broke down all to quickly. It's the waiter's friend or La Donna Francese all the way for me.

Ed, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

I have an off-brand rabbit corkscrew and it's useless. Never tried the real one, but I find the wavey arm guy to work just fine.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

I definitely favour the t-shaped style of corkscrew. I also generally cut pizzas with a big fucking kitchen knife that has a blade long enough to 'rock' across the whole diameter.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

Thesis disproved. QED.

libcrypt, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

wavey arm corkscrew guy is definitely the most personable. such a happy dude, always wavin' his arms. and the staple claw guy, he's all grr grr godzilla.

yeah more stupid twee anthropomorphism in industrial design plz.

ledge, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

I have an awesome claw staple remover that has a cobra-like *hood*

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

Actually I forgot about this kind, which is arguably even better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Swingline_Model_37201_staple_remover_side.JPG/800px-Swingline_Model_37201_staple_remover_side.JPG

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 July 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah, for serious monster docs that guy is ace.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

The industry standard for document decollation professionals

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

I like the arm-wavey corkscrew because it also functions as a beer-bottle opener. The beer bottle opener mounted to the underside of a counter is pretty great too, though.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

waiter's friend has a bottle opener on it too

max, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

hmmm - true. But it isn't as pretty!

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

I worked one summer at a bookbindery whose specialty was binding magazine and academic journal collections for libraries. I had to use this pneumatic staple removing machine that worked like a drill press and could bust through staples that were buried under glue. That thing was aces.

Anyway, letter openers:

http://www.crobike.de/en/werbemittel_bilder/promopeddler/10200/21026.jpg

vs.

http://www.adproductstogo.com/Letter_Openers-GaryLO2%20SMB-%2004.jpg

I keep one of the latter on my desk at work. Love it. Granted, you can't stab a burglar in the face with it, but still.

xp The beer bottle opener mounted to the underside of a counter is pretty great too, though.
Yes! I have this at home.

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

pac man letter opener ftw

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

Straight letter opener is like a sad knife.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 July 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

scissors are much better than either of those pizza cutters for pizzas 12" or smaller

i had noodles at a korean restaurant yesterday and the waitress brought them and then stuck a pair of kitchen scissors into the bowl and cut them up a bunch and told me to stir the whole thing around. i mean i've eaten korean food before but every time this kind of scissor treatment strikes me as both bizarre and totally logical & awesome

rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 July 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

Giant pizza cutter makes perfect sense in a pro environment or if you have shitloads of space. Roller makes sense if you want to put it in a drawer.

mh, Friday, 4 July 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)


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