verhoeven vs cronenberg

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Cronenberg has the better hit-to-miss ratio, not to mention wider-ranging ideas. I love Verhoeven a lot but when he's bad he's awful... sexual creepiness of both directors oddly similar

but Cronenberg can be awful in a boring way, whereas Verhoeven is rarely boring.

yeah hollow man is maybe the worst movie ive ever seen but i would never turn down a chance to watch it again, while lots of the non-campy cronenberg stuff is more "interesting" but leaves me cold

that is kinda true - when Verhoeven is bad its like watching an oddly comic carwreck

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verhoeven has said again and again that he doesn't think "linearly" with his movies - his natural impulse is to just string scenes together without regard for narrative shape, yet his movies always seem to work better as movies, feel more satisyfing/cathartic/thrilling than cronenerg, who always seems to hold back narrative pleasure, or trick you into thinking you're about to experience a moment of narrative pleasure

Verhoeven's films are definitely more sensual; Cronenberg's are "sensual."

not a contest.

I didn't hesitate for a split second before clicking Cronenberg.

Cronenberg's doesn't really have anything comparable to Showgirls in his ouevre - can't decide if that's a good or bad thing

I didn't hesitate for a split second before clicking Cronenberg.

-- Savannah Smiles, Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Knows what's up.

I voted for Cronenberg in the end – for The Fly, Dead Ringers, and Naked Lunch mostly.

Cronenberg

Then again, I'm a bit of a fanboy... I'm about to travel to Paris to see "The Fly" opera hat he's directing!

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fuck opera a hat

David Cronenberg's The Fedora

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-- Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:58 (2 hours ago) Link

Verhoeven's Hot Sauce Holster way way better

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Ned, it's going to L.A. in a couple of weeks!

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/07/03/fly372x192.jpg

other than that I get 'eastern promises' and 'black book' confused (haven't seen either of them) they don't strike me as that comparable.

Verhoeven has made way fewer movies, that's for sure

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Verhoeven. He probably needed the vote, plus Showgirls is better than anything.

I didn't hesitate for a split second before clicking Cronenberg.

^^^this

Verhoeven without any hesitation

Verhoeven. He probably needed the vote, plus Showgirls Robocop is better than anything.

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-- Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 July 2008 14:58 (2 hours ago) Link

-- latebloomer, Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:23 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

CRONENBERG is kind of my main man.

That opera still of the Fly looks like some twisted version of "Starlight Express"!

I woulda said Cronenberg no doubt, but some good points raised for V

If Cronenberg doesn't win this, I'm burning down the internets.

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when i think of paul verhoeven i think of spetters and the fourth man and then i think of renee soutendijk and THEN i think of my favorite movie eve of destruction!

they should have had cronenberg do a sequel to eve of destruction.

verhoeven unleashed jan de bont and my lord and master rutger hauer on to the world AND the glory that is starship troopers, but, man, cronenberg has made like a dozen movies that i adore and that STILL, after all these years and no matter how many times i have seen them, have the ability to freak me out. in a good way. in a freaky way. in a visceral total body way. hate to use a cliche, but the dude is a visionary. the only other current pedestals i own for people who still have the power to dazzle me are for lynch and herzog. when those three die hopefully there will be some young kids we haven't heard of yet who will dance on their graves with genius. otherwise you are left with fight club dude and dude who did pi or something. and that would just be sad.

I have hopes for Fincher but otherwise yeah I agree