if politically its 1978 all over again, what culturally is our Punk/New Wave

the NFL

ILM

Xtreme energy drinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqeGZpHCURo

oh fuck the answer's Facebook innit. we're all going to hell.

The Joker, apparently.

1979 was much worse.

ie. than now.

Musically it was quite good though of course.

just wait, we haven't had The Winter Of Discontent II yet...

System of a Down?

Can I have disco instead?

Sort of real answer: We have no analog to a punk movement, at least not musically.

what was the Punk/New Wave of the 1870s?

Steampunk.

yeah, saw that coming

proto-Satie dull chamber music for your dull chambers

steamwave >>> steampunk

was gonna go with "anti-masons" xp to hurting

that or Rasputina, I guess

gerard man-the-fuck-up hopkins

Ozymandius' nipples.

Back to the original question:

Punk = Joanna Newsom
New Wave = Fleet Foxes

LOOK UPON THESE MIGHT NIPS AND DESPAIR, ozymandias

one would hope that whatever counts as the counterculture is staying low and invisible so as not to be absorbed.

what culturally is our Punk/New Wave

Todd P shows.

For those of you not in NYC or the US... just... trust me on this.

pretty sure it's puppetresources.com

you need to learn to be a bit more subtle with your marketing, John

Back to the original question:

Punk = Joanna Newsom
New Wave = Fleet Foxes

sooooo....a nico tribute artist and a CSNY cover band?

let's try this again.

It may be 1978 politically, but it's the early 90s musically. So: Nu-noise/lo-fi bands, e.g., Times New Viking; No Age; Abe Vigoda; Sic Alps.

pretty sure the interweb's number 1 Indie resource will get all butthurt at the suggestion that the world ain't Indie

Not presuming this is what you mean, but do you mean me? I know the world ain't indie. It's pop. I like pop, FWIW.

Daniel, in all drunken sincerity, no I didn't mean you. I was skitting the undriven drift of ILM, and we're all exempt from steering the undriven drift, including and especially me.

Unless you work for ULTOR in which case fuck you.

Haha. I don't even know what ULTOR is. So, no, I don't work for it.

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Smiling.
Merciless the magistrate turns 'round
Frowning.

hobo used to asked you for a dollar now the motherfucker ask u for three

Many are the unwitting pawns of ULTOR!

Or am I thinking of MODOK?

Hail HYDRA.

Glen Matlock.

just wait, we haven't had The Winter Of Discontent II yet...

Oh shut up

Haha, yeah, I meant politically it was worse because Thatcher got in. Cameron ain't no Thatcher.

Not until 1979 she didn't.

Hitler wasn't no Kaiser either.

Yes, that's right, that't why I said 1979 was worse.

*bangs own head against wall*

1979 cannot be worse.

2008 is happening now!

2008 is pretty shit generally but not necessarily for musical reasons.

I'm enjoying 2008. I have finally stopped getting pissed off by HYS and CiF and all those other comments pages and no longer take it as a personal insult when some loony starts spouting crap about going to hell on a handcart. I am enjoying my own thing. Reading what I want to read, listening to what I want to listen to, getting on with life. Maybe I'm finally getting the point of it all. 1979 was unmittingly depressing for me for personal and political reasons. Even 1980 was better than 1979 and that's really saying something.

No, "Really Saying Soemthing" was 1982

For the worse like most of the UK.

Fine Georgian and Victorian buildings demolished in the 50/60/70's to be replace by steel and glas monstrosities.

Feckless yobs everywhere, dirt, rubbish etc.

What was good can now never be replaced.

europhile, northampton

You see, I can read that and let it go right over my head...

EVEN THOUGH IT IS WRONG ON EVERY SINGLE POINT...

I should have added "and definitely not for personal reasons" to my previous post. But then I do live in London.

I am originally from Birmingham, as a child it was a friendly, close community, where everyone helped each other.

I left Birmingham many years ago, but had to visit a few weeks ago, the place is unrecognisable, with the Bull Ring being dwarfed by ugly buildings, and more Mosques than Jeddah, shops selling cheap shoddy goods, and traffic on par with London.

I will stay here in the country, thank you very much, you can keep the citys'.

Maggie Jones, Cheltenham, United Kingdom

Or this one...not a problem, no, I'm not going to rise to it...EVEN THOUGH QUITE OBVIOUSLY M JONES IS QUITE CLEARLY SUFFERING FORM SOME KIND OF MEMORY ERASING DISEASE AND SHOULDN:T BE LET ANYWHERE NEAR AN INTERNET CONNECTION...

Totally not bothered, then.

No, completely calm.

It's the alternate Ant and Dec, folks!

Remember - in 1978, Ant and Dec would have been Little and Large.

Rock Steady! Whenever you're ready....

Little and Large had more talent

Ant and Dec = Little and Little

Little and Large Forehead morelike

1978 - Eddie Large as John Travolta, Syd Little as Olivia Newton-John.

Just a guess but I expect I'm right.

No doubt

http://www.500sound.com/Uploads/art/arthur_and_hylda.jpg

My, Fergie looks different all of a sudden. Younger.

(stop stop! not Fergie, that other girl, er, blonde, you know, with the weird clothes & stuff! whatshername!)