Anger over Vorderman's departure

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The partner of Countdown's late host Richard Whiteley and the show's creator have both criticised the events which led Carol Vorderman to quit the series.

Kathryn Apanowicz said it was "below the belt" that Vorderman was allegedly told Countdown could survive without her if she failed to accept a pay cut.

And creator Marcel Stellman said he was "sad" about her departure, which "could have been done in a such a lovely way".

Poll Results

OptionVotes
I am not angry over Vorderman's departure 15
WHO IS VORDERMAN15
I am angry over Vorderman's departure 10


Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)

apoplectic

still on the bright side she's free to do more loan shark ads now :D

DG, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:05 (seventeen years ago)

But she still has a lovely bottom.

King Boy Pato, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:25 (seventeen years ago)

But she's a pretty unpleasant right wing shit so frankly am I bothered.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:42 (seventeen years ago)

If they need a photogenic Oxbridge graduate to replace her, I'm sure a certain ILX-based 65daysofstatic afficionado could step up to the plate.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:54 (seventeen years ago)

Has he got a lovely bottom too?

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e387/Somnilocus/smilies/itisamystery.png

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:58 (seventeen years ago)

My prediction: Nicky Campbell and what's her face who's also on Watchdog.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 08:59 (seventeen years ago)

No, it'll be Nicky Campbell and Carol Smillie, the old Wheel Of Fortune team but with a subtly altered balance of power.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:00 (seventeen years ago)

My mum will be happy, she hates that false laugh Vorderman does, tho I argued that it was necessary to develop a false laugh when sharing a studio for Richard Whiteley for 20 years

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:02 (seventeen years ago)

Nightmare scenario: Stuart Maconie and Miranda Sawyer.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:05 (seventeen years ago)

"Two Xs and three Ws? What was that all about? Eh? Eh?" for the rest of infinity.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:05 (seventeen years ago)

This has robbed all the joy I'd been feeling in the run up to the 10th anniversary release of Bring It On.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:10 (seventeen years ago)

Are Gomez the only band who look as though they are entirely made up of Countdown contestants?

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/music/slideshow/mercuryprize2007/img_9.jpg

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:13 (seventeen years ago)

Actually looking more like the kids The Shadows bullied at school

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:13 (seventeen years ago)

Who would have known that Little and Large would have gone on to such fame and fortune?

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:15 (seventeen years ago)

Is that Gomez? Gulp.

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

.. after sacking ErnieEric Morecambewise, you mean?

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:21 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Bobby Ball, walking down the road, talking on his mobile phone, yesterday.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:22 (seventeen years ago)

.. in Windsor.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:22 (seventeen years ago)

What did Barbara have to say on the matter?

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:23 (seventeen years ago)

Great! Did you shout "Rock on Tommy"... errrrrr, no, that doesn't work.

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:24 (seventeen years ago)

ON IPHONE?

Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

I saw bobby ball in hotel in leeds last year, he was complaining to the reception that someone woke him up with an unrequested early morning phone call to his room.

there was also peter jennings and that 'barbara' woman, who were extremely pleasant to me in the foyer.

Ste, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

30 years of "Can I have a pee, Tommy?" to anticipate with icy glee.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:26 (seventeen years ago)

er of course I meant Peter 'Benson' (hartbeat cast obv)

Ste, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:31 (seventeen years ago)

Is that Gomez? Gulp.

No, it's the Young Knives.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:32 (seventeen years ago)

This is what happens when liberal values have their say.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:34 (seventeen years ago)

What, the Young Conservatives rise up and flourish?

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:36 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Bobby Ball, walking down the road, talking on his mobile phone, yesterday.

http://www.yardwear.net/blog/content/binary/jesus-south-park.jpg

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:37 (seventeen years ago)

"Jesus, Why am I in Windsor" he did say on the phone.

Oh all right, he didn't.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:47 (seventeen years ago)

Hope Carol's got some Europe on her iPod.

NickB, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:52 (seventeen years ago)

subtlr.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:53 (seventeen years ago)

Duh-duh-dah-dah Duh-duh-dah-dah-dah!

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:53 (seventeen years ago)

Vorderman is not at all keen on Europe. "From my cold, dead hands" she has been alleged to say.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:54 (seventeen years ago)

something seems off about this whole 'poor vorderman' story. she's obviously leaked this to the press herself to spite the production company. the 'your wages are now 10%, you have 2 hours to decide' claim doesn't seem realistic, i'm hoping someone from ch4 will come out with the full story.

she's a ruthless right-wing shit and one of a handful of people who are long overdue a high-profile career-wrecking fall from grace.

NI, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:47 (seventeen years ago)

No-one's denied it.

Carol in "cambridge math graduate is tory" shockah.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:50 (seventeen years ago)

If she's strapped for cash she could always take out a Purple Loan, assuming that they haven't gone under.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)

Incidentally, the smart money is on Myleene "Did I Perchance Hear An Envelope Opening?" Klass to take over.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

couldn't she have just accepted the paycut and then consolidate her debts with a high interest secured loan?

ken c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

erm xpost

ken c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

Carol in "cambridge math graduate is tory" shockah

Dunno what Bertrand Russell would make of that.

NickB, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

MG, it's not so much that she's a Tory, it's that she went for the jugular of the weakest members of society with the loan adverts. there's another thread about this somewhere if anyone can find it.

and isn't it a ch4 policy to not get down in the dirt and argue about this type of thing?

NI, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

Vernon & Tess ftC

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:57 (seventeen years ago)

At least C4 are putting that money to good use:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2468002/Alan-Carr-signs-%C2%A33m-deal-with-Channel-4.html

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 10:58 (seventeen years ago)

To be fair, he probably saw what happened to Norton and decided it best to stay put/know his limitations.

Oh and we haven't yet mentioned Vorderman's echt-weepy pseudo-Mary Magdalene face of ersatz beneficence when she does those Courageous Children-type ceremonies.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:00 (seventeen years ago)

See, here's the thing.

Richard Whitely and Carol V were neither household names when they started.

But suddenly, because the format worked, the makers panic into thinking the presenters have to be "as famous" as who they have.

So, do they replace RW and/or CV with a vaguely familiar local TV presenter and a recently graduated math girlie?

No, they do not.

See, they could replace Des with the bloke who does Thames Valley news, he'd be fine.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:03 (seventeen years ago)

bloke who does Thames Valley news & Riz Latif ftw

Tom D., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

Harry Gration! Also neatly circumvents problem of old men not wanting to commute to Leeds.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:07 (seventeen years ago)

Note how Vorderman doesn't need a job description prelude...Amy's got some way to go to match that level of celebrity.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 10:48 (seventeen years ago)

that's because SHE NO LONGER HAS A JOB INNIT LOLZ

ken c, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

She's got at least forty years of Blankety Blank to look forward to.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

shame there's no vorderman HYS topic :(

DG, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

HYS being the operative term.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

it's all about capital punishment for smoking weed today

DG, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

Finally something we can all agree on

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

suzie dent is the telegenic one anyway.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

Um, wasn't Bruce Forsyth replaced TWICE on the Generation Game without any noticeable deterioration in ratings?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

Rory Bremner's a good choice if they want to save money because he can just do everyone else as well. I'm looking forward to wry, mirthful quips from "John Cole" and "Bill McLaren" in Dictionary Corner!

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:21 (seventeen years ago)

Anger over Wagemann's departure

gzip, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

At least the Vord never linked her blog with every comment.

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

so true

ken c, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

ts vorderman vs winehouse

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

Countdown USA

Sorry, that show is rubbish.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

suzie dent is the telegenic one anyway.

hopefully she will now be recognised as this and all the boring maths stuff put to one side (it's the crappest bit of the programme, isn't it? i mean, it's a WORD programme, the maths is incidental surely).

And Countdown will survive.

or something, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

The result would've been different under Cameron.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/21/article-1088245-028D4749000005DC-38_468x786.jpg

Mark G, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

WIN

Shacknasty (Frogman Henry), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

"who is vorderman" indeed

Tracer Hand, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

nope.

darraghmac, Monday, 24 November 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

The next two letters better be a C and a K.

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

Unbelievable Jeff

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

strange how in the original news stories there was only photos of stelling and not her - surely a facebook pic would've sufficed temporarily

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Rachel Riley hasn't quite got the place, turn and smile movement down yet. It's quite sweet. I watched the first ever Countdown 27 years ago. I feel like I have completed a life-cycle.

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

how is Jeff getting on?

Glans Christian Christian christian Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Monday, 12 January 2009 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

Watching with the sound off at work, so it's hard to tell. Both number rounds have been utter sitters so far.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 12 January 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

I watched the first ever Countdown 27 years ago. I feel like I have completed a life-cycle.

― Alba, Monday, January 12, 2009 4:53 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

!!! i thought you were like, 27, 28 years old?

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 12 January 2009 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

I was a precocious infant!

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

ha, and so did I. Watch it, I mean, not thought you were 28.

xpost or thought you were a precocious infant.

Mark G, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, I'm 35 and was just enthused nine-year-old.

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Ooh - a 75 in the numbers round. Chance for Rachel to show her worth?

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

No. These guys are good.

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

you add... no! you subtract, damn!!!

snoball, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

Blimmin heck - that was a fast Conundrum. That Irish guy.

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

NICE ROOTS!
(I shouted out "Rhinoceros!")

snoball, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

Jeff was solid. I don't consider that he had much to live up to.

Alba, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

I got the conundrum a few seconds after he buzzed but just before he said it, so that sort of counts, by my standards. Nowhere on that last numbers game, though, and as for "ethmodis"...

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

I bumped the Stelling thread for this but nobody seemed to care

Mostly textbook groanworthy jokes'n'such from the S-man but a good Plymouth Argyll zing at the end, mostly very composed and pleasantly ingratiating, Miss Riley seems quite demure and unpretentious as well, enjoyable stuff, helped that both contestants were great craic, the winner REALLY reminds me of someone I know

also the first numbers game was the easiest numbers game ever

Goodnight, Mr. Johnson. (country matters), Monday, 12 January 2009 16:14 (seventeen years ago)

I'm looking forward to seeing how Stelling deals with whichever token insanely precocious 10-year-old this series throws up.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

Who was that absurd young'un they had a couple of years back? I remember a guy called Julian Fay who was insane but there was this kid as well...

Goodnight, Mr. Johnson. (country matters), Monday, 12 January 2009 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

Conor Travers, apparently.

There was a kid who used to go to my school called Allan Saldanha who was (I think) meant to be one of the all-time greats, he gets mentioned here.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:30 (seventeen years ago)

There is a CountdownWiki, and this is Allan's entry. He got to the final aged 9. I was also in the year above his brother, Richard, who got to the final in 1998.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

Er, Julian Fell, even

Goodnight, Mr. Johnson. (country matters), Monday, 12 January 2009 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

OMG, I watch too much Countdown, because I remember Allan Saldanha, and possibly maybe his brother as well. That Conor Travers was mad good, his run coincided with me being sick off work.

I missed today's and, much to my shame, have just looked it up on 4oD for curiosity value.

ailsa, Monday, 12 January 2009 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

I thought this was gonna be about Harry Potter.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Monday, 12 January 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Well, I suppose everyone has to work.

I would, however, suspect that many people's "fear of maths" is based on working out how long they'll be paying off those debt consolidation loans that Vorderman is so keen on advertising.

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:59 (seventeen years ago)


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