i have been seeing this ornate, quasi-tribal, pseudo-regal crap absolutely everywhere. why? what does it mean? when did it start?
http://gomedia.us/arsenal/images/prev/gif/set4_sm.gif
http://gomedia.us/arsenal/images/prev/gif/pack5image.gif
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)
I don't know. It's a cross between those "tribal" tattoos, "flame" bowling shirts, and nu-metal album covers. Someone needs to cook up a website where people can automatically design these things, sort of like that presidential seal designer site from a couple of years ago. Then everyone can go crazy and we'll never have to see these things again, because nothing kills something off like a two week internet fad.
― snoball, Monday, 4 August 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)
The second one is quite nice.
― jed_, Monday, 4 August 2008 14:46 (seventeen years ago)
This is screamo's legacy.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 4 August 2008 14:46 (seventeen years ago)
what's the name of the clothing company that's big w/ MMA and XTREME sports right now?
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)
Zab Judah wore their trunks this weekend, but the name escapes me
http://alejo31.pbwiki.com/f/metallica_-_load-front%5B1%5D.jpg
― some dude, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
god, spooge is totally the right word. kinda hate this
― s1ocki, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.afflictionclothing.com/
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)
Not exactly a dime a dozen...
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4710/picture1gm8.png
― libcrypt, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)
stop hating goths, we're runnin shit now anyway
― J0hn D., Monday, 4 August 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)
heh, i figured this was all due to some new crop of design program plugins
― goole, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
seems like all the shirts at the stores right now are either plaid/striped 'vintage' shirts, or shit w/ these graphics or horrible stitched designs
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
Insofar as commercial graphics is concerned, these designs are good. I wouldn't buy a t-shirt with the skull on it, but some of the other designs at the site are good enough to wear. However, any designer who'd buy one of those "packs" deserves to be stripped of his Mac immediately.
― libcrypt, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)
This one is wearable:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7572/imageuploadimagesg8.jpg
― libcrypt, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
i don't even use a Mac so i'm in the clear (xp)
― blueski, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
Generally, though, the art there is just too blatantly commercial to be interesting.
― libcrypt, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:27 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, see, I'm kind of happy to see that chain stores have finally returned to selling print t-shirts that aren't all fake-distressed "old" or semi-ironic (high-school gym t-shirt, old Frosted Flakes ad only in Japanese, state tourism t-shirts, Atari, etc.), and I am cool with it when people can really pull off some of the bright-ass heavy neon print drapey t-shirts that are around these days (like that kind of Chicago rap-hister / electro look, neon print hoodies and skinny pants and giant near-flowing print t-shirts) -- but yeah, I feel like some stores have just jumped into insane crap with the print t-shirts, especially when it comes to this kind of super busy shadowed skulls-and-laurels "regalia" stuff. I was trying to grab a cheap non-sweaty t-shirt to change into at a Forever 21 the other day, and it was just piles of this stuff.
― nabisco, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
^^ mostly referring to the first image Tracer posted -- imagine shirts irregularly plastered with hundreds of those, displayed under hoodies that are the same, only color-reversed
― nabisco, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)
Similar design from Upper Playground:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7294/picture2at0.png
― libcrypt, Monday, 4 August 2008 17:32 (seventeen years ago)
OMG libcrypt you get Abbott's Hero of August award for discovering those vector sets.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)
i would buy a So-Me vector set
― blueski, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, see, I'm kind of happy to see that chain stores have finally returned to selling print t-shirts that aren't all fake-distressed "old" or semi-ironic
Not so in the UK - right now there seems to be a rash of people walking around wearing football-ish T-shirts with <Japanese city name> <some number> printed on them. Like "KYOTO" with a huge "9" underneath it.
― snoball, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)
My Indian coworker has shirts like that, presumably from India, but they say 'flirty' type things. My favorite one says
HOT TIE
And he's quite fluent in English so I am surprised he hasn't realised this space inserted changes the phrases meaning somewhat?
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)
Flirty things instead o a city or team name.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:17 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.xtremecoutureclothingstore.com/store/images/xtc_main_banner.jpg
― bnw, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)
wtf "couture"
if this wuz france they could be sued for misuse of that word
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
Shit is useful as 'stay away' warnink.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
WHAT do you think about Juicy's use of the word, elmo?
I think it's a reference to a UFC meathead.
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
It is the last name of Dainty Male Model #2. First name: Randy.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)
but the really sad sad thing is that i am currently working on BRANDING a line of shirts that have this sort of ATTITUDE
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:42 (seventeen years ago)
which would be very funny to me if it didn't directly involve my paycheck
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
There is nothing funny about labor in exchange for currency. ;_;
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
i think juicy 'couture' is also dumb, i mean unless those shitty terrycloth sweatsuits are hand-sewn
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
OTM!!!!! Thank you.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
T/S: this vs. ed hardy bullshit
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
haha trick question
buh THIS bcz at least it isn't ALWAYS insultingly expensive. And I don't have to wear either of them.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
I saw Ed Hardy cologne somewhere - does it smell like tattoo shop (disinfectant, cigarettes and maybe a hint of BO)?
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
there was like a fifteen minute window in the late-90s when Sailor Jerry and Von Dutch shit was cheap and kind of cool because they were cheap and selling just to Southern California nu-greasers (and people on the Internet).
Then something went horribly, horribly wrong.
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)
maybe i should convince my boss to make the brand name "ANGRY RAPIST" because that's what i think dudes who wear this shit look like
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
gothic script logo, of course
fuck the boss, do that shit yourself
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)
Does anything exist between vintage-ironic and Angry Rapist wear? Even in the $50-100 shirt area, it all looks the same, just 'nicer.'
― milo z, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
yes. vintage rapist.
― Granny Dainger, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:14 (seventeen years ago)
Angry Ironic - it says "I'm angry, but in an ironic way"
― snoball, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)
Ironic Angry: ironic, but in an angry way
― Granny Dainger, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:18 (seventeen years ago)
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
angry rapist
elmo you are gold
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)
Right now there seems to be a rash of people walking around wearing football-ish T-shirts with <Japanese city name> <some number> printed on them. Like "KYOTO" with a huge "9" underneath it.
This has been driving me insane. Usually the writing is in gold. I assume there's a v popular chain store that's putting this stuff out, and I just don't know what it is. It's annoying because I own an actual Japanese baseball jersey that I got in Chicago in.. er, 1995 I think, and now I don't want to wear it ever again. Looking back on it I should have bought up the shop's whole supply, they had like 200 of them for $3-5 each.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)
Although actually it doesn't seem like people want true vintage stuff along these lines - they want shit that's based on a vintage aesthetic but obviously new (and shiny!).
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)
They're almost always Rorschach-like mirror images, too:
http://store.drumbum.com/media/drummer-tribal-t-shirt.jpg
It seems like this stuff comes from custom motorcycle and tattoo culture
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:53 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.teamhelluk.com/images/x21-blk%20rampage.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.everytshirt.com/images/products/Super_Hero_T-Shirts/small/Tribal-Superman-T-shirt.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
okay srsly what is the point of that ^^^^
― HI DERE, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)
*96 tears*
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)
Custom motorcycle and tattoo culture are among the worst cultures I can conceive.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, see, it's that kind of back-shadowed type of grey-on-black thing behind the Superman logo, it seems to be on all types of things -- you'd think it was some kind of revolutionary new printing technique someone just invented and everyone's excited about now.
― nabisco, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)
This fits, too:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5563/forumluciano2710ly6.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
(xpost) I think that part of the "excitement" for manufacturers is that even if a batch of shirts don't print properly, they can still be sold because they look "distressed"
― snoball, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
symmetrical design = you only need to do half as much work
― blueski, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
Ragstock in Chicago still has all these down in the basement. Easily a couple hundred of them.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:14 (seventeen years ago)
Hahahaha I think that's where I got them! Amazing!!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
"Them" - I actually did get three, but gave two away. That is nuts. I may need to call in a favor or two from a Chicagoan I know..
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)
It's like, combine this:
http://www.zonal.co.uk/news/newsarchive/assets/ministry.gif
with some tribal crap, repeat
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 August 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)
It's for people who like Mindless Self Indulgence and shit like that.
― the next grozart, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
kingkongvsgodzilla otm
― dan m, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.coolfer.com/blog/blog/images/weezermakebelieve.jpg
― 6335, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)
there were t-shirts on sale in like H&M or something a few years back that were like football shirts w/ a number on the back w/ McQUEEN or MARLEY above or the surname of other similar "legends" and it probably had "LEGEND" printed on it somewhere too and yeah it had swirly meaningless designs on and they were probably printed over other designs or patterns and were probably faded and/or worn or had stitching all over all this stupid bullshit
― conrad, Monday, 4 August 2008 23:55 (seventeen years ago)
i will reluctantly give an iota of credit to Affliction since they happen to have plenty of actual illustration in there designs, which at least takes some skill, rather than just copy-pasted vector motifs.
and for whatever it's worth, I don't really blame the people who wear this stuff (there's no accounting for taste, anyway) nor the designers who cobble this stuff together on deadline. it's the art directors who deserve the blame, no?
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
it's the parents
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)
Was there one t-shirt company or design agency who kicked this off?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:31 (seventeen years ago)
i think a lot of the aesthetic started w. custom decalwork on motorcycles - trickled outward to WWF & energy-drink stylez.
― remy bean, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)
ugh, "their designs" xpost
you'd think it was some kind of revolutionary new printing technique someone just invented and everyone's excited about now
not exactly revolutionary but yea, there is a technological side to it. being able to charge a premium cost for a t-shirt means that using multiple types of inks (discharge inks + conventional plastisols) and other effects (flocking, metallic foil) on the same garment is no longer cost-prohibitive -- your production time slows way down but your profit margin expands because of the perceived value added. so yeah, justifying the exorbitant retail price with more complicated printing techniques is kinda backwards but i think it definitely is driving this aesthetic in the marketplace.
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
http://gomedia.us/arsenal/images/prev/gif/hooladanders3-prev.gif
― abanana, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)
ORLY?
― carne asada, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah. That's exactly it. I guess you take one of those, make it real big, then take one or two pieces of it and copy and paste again and again. Shove the little pieces around until they begin to resemble molted feathers or weird twig-polyps of the main shape. Take three days to do this part so that you can charge a lot. Then paste a large coat of arms, or a skull, or a beetle, or all three, in the middle. Then type something in a blackletter font at the bottom. Finally: PROFIT.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 15:02 (seventeen years ago)
^^ tell me that pic is off the wall of a tattoo shop
― goole, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)