Either an actor or a director; who has really been involved in no turkeys, has made no bad decisions?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:39 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0873385/
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:41 (seventeen years ago)
involved in no turkeys, has made no bad decisions
Immediately makes me want to search people who made one good movie and then died tragically, but I'm resisting the temptation.
― kenan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1856457/
― nate woolls, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)
jean vigo
― webinar, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:43 (seventeen years ago)
Nate Woolls wins.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:49 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/61/9098826_117294794220.jpg "Hiya guys!"
(Admittedly Cazale's is a terribly -short- filmography as well)
― Øystein, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:49 (seventeen years ago)
Terence Malick
― I know, right?, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)
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― amateurist, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:53 (seventeen years ago)
also: Ozu, Bresson
maybe Rohmer?
Tarkovsky - all killer no filler.
Agreed abt Bresson, but I'm not sure enough of Ozu's films survive for us to say w/ absolute certainty that there were no duds along the way.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:58 (seventeen years ago)
Kieslowski?
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)
John Cazale
Unless you count a 1962 short and archive footage in The Godfather: Part III, this is it:
The Godfather The Conversation The Godfather: Part II Dog Day Afternoon The Deer Hunter
― Alba, Thursday, 7 August 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)
(I somehow missed Øystein's post above, but still, pays to see the list)
― Alba, Thursday, 7 August 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)
Miyazaki
― I know, right?, Thursday, 7 August 2008 12:01 (seventeen years ago)
I'd really like to say Todd Haynes
― I know, right?, Thursday, 7 August 2008 12:21 (seventeen years ago)
Rohmer ftw
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 7 August 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)
rohmer has never made a bad movie, or even a middling one. i certainly have my favorites and least-favorites, but they are also respectable at least, fascinating most of the time, even when frustrating....
re. ozu, given the fact that ALL of his extant 35-something movies are either good or great or spectacular, i don't see any reason to presume that among the 15 or so missing films there are too many major duds.
oh yeah: eisenstein?
― amateurist, Friday, 8 August 2008 08:59 (seventeen years ago)
Jim Jarmusch is a good candidate, I think. Only his first movie is kinda meh, all the others are good or great. (Haven't seen his Neil Young documentary though.)
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:11 (seventeen years ago)
A third of both NIGHT ON EARTH (Winona) and MYSTERY TRAIN (Strummer) are pretty disastrous
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:19 (seventeen years ago)
Night on Earth has five segments, not three. I agree that Wynona part is the weakest, but why do you think it's "disastrous"? Anyway, all the other segments are pretty great.
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:22 (seventeen years ago)
jarmusch has made 1 1/2 great movies, c'mon. the rest are middling.
― amateurist, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:33 (seventeen years ago)
I definitely disagree with that.
― Tuomas, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)
Will I get laughed out of ILE for saying David Fincher? I've loved at least something about all of his films so far.
― nate woolls, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001238/
― clotpoll, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)
xp Yes.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
I'm thinking on the doc side someone like Frederick Wiseman? Wong Kar Wai had a decent case until Norah Jones happened.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)
LEAVE NORAH OUT OF IT!
― I know, right?, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)
Oh wait Sergio Leone is pretty good. I guess there's some weird uncredited work though.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
It's true. She sucked, but really that movie would have been disastrous whoever the female lead was.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)
International directors who have good resumes inevitably make at least one crap US film, don't they?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:45 (seventeen years ago)
Lynch bitchez
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
Dune bitch.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
nobody's selling me on any of these directors (granted I haven't seen any rohmer or ozu). my tarkovsky fixation is well documented on ilx but none of his films is absolutely perfect. and even tho I like/love some of their work, jarmusch, haynes, and fincher are like wtf?
kieslowski did have a pretty good run there, but the decalogue is about half amazing and half pedestrian. I know, heresy.
― Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
and besides dune, lynch seemed to lose his way for about a decade after blue velvet.
― Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)
I love Dune. His weakest to me is Wild at Heart and even that is at least fitfully entertaining.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)
I have never seen a Rohmer film, what am I missing (bear in mind I hate Tarkovsky and found Fassbinder's "Berlin Alexanderplantz" unwatchable)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
Ozu made like 70 films. I refuse to believe anyone here has seen all of them.
Um Fire Walk With Me?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:59 (seventeen years ago)
Even if you like it, it's impossible to acknowledge that as a major mistep.
but agreed that Haynes Jarmusch and Fincher all have some serious crap that cannot be discounted
oh shit I forgot Fire Walk With Me. okay yeah that is bad, a smattering of great scenes excepted. okay I remove Lynch from the running...
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:59 (seventeen years ago)
still waiting for the first d-bag to offer up pt or wes anderson
― Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
I could get behind Anderson except for Life Aquatic which really was a mess
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
Tarantino as a director hasn't had a mistep (even if his Four Rooms bit is less than enthralling.) Whether you like his films or not is another matter, I guess.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
bear in mind I hate Tarkovsky
dude, have you watched mirror yet?
― Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
Coens unfortunately out of the running as well. I dunno the more I think about this the more I agree that the only real possible winner is someone who's only made a few films. Malick seems like a decent candidate but I never saw his last two.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
I have not seen Mirror. I saw Solaris and hated it, couldn't make it through Stalker.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
I need to see New World. My memory is not kind to it (even though I recall liking it when I saw it.)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
again that is.
true, kill bill wasn't a misstep. it was more like rolling down the side of a hill in a car on fire.
xpost
― Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)
that's why i said "if you discount some of the '80s stuff."
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it's from 1992! has he had a good film since Tess?
― jed_, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)
i would say the pianist but maybe others disagree
― omar little, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)
Hawks made lots of increasingly tired Rio Bravo let's-bullshit-while-we-wait-for-a-movie-to-start exercises (which nevertheless have their defenders): Hatari!, El Dorado, etc.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:42 (seventeen years ago)
in terms of actors who rarely seem to phone it in, i always enjoy watching harvey keitel, although a glance at his imdb does reveal that he was in national treasure: book of secrets, which i can't vouch for.
directors: kurosawa, ford, peckinpah (although there is a lot of kurosawa i haven't seen)
― spaghetti, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)
As far as actors: Vanessa Redgrave. I can't recall her ever giving a bad performance.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:48 (seventeen years ago)
dude keitel did that homeless pirate movie with the fucking monkey
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:50 (seventeen years ago)
You mean Emma Thompson.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)
y'know peckinpah is an interesting nomination - love love love his stuff, but everybody seems to agree that his latter work (which I have not seen) degenerated into pretty bad hackery.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)
They're just weak action films.
I just thought of one guy whose films (that I've seen) are all great:
Henri-Georges Clouzot
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)
Well, I'll give you El Dorado but Hatari! could bullshit for six hours and I wouldn't even notice. Starting movies sucks anyway.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)
I think Kubrick was a solid nomination. Even discounting Eyes Wide Shut as a dud (which I don't), the dude's got classic after classic in his filmography.
― circa1916, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
Apparently Miquette et sa mère is not that good according to IMDB so maybe Clouzot is out.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
keitel withdrawn due to monkey trouble. i'll tentatively (due to the fact he's been in a fucking load of films) put forward gene hackman.
has anyone mentioned charlie chaplin yet?
― spaghetti, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)
have you ever seen A Countess From Hong Kong?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
ugh Hackman
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
Brian Dennehey?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)
M. Emmet Walsh?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)
J.T. Walsh?
xxxxpost, yeah it's not great but with the exception of kubrick (who only directed about a dozen films) and cazale (who died before he was popular enough to start acting alongside chimps) none of the names above have struck me as approaching flawlessness. and i think chaplin, like hitchcock, kind of made enough great stuff to allow us to overlook the (very rare) stinkers.
― spaghetti, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:28 (seventeen years ago)
Money wasn't that good, to be honest. It started great, but went kind downhill towards the end.
roffle-roffel
― Eric H., Friday, 8 August 2008 23:38 (seventeen years ago)
I love Bitter Moon.
It's always at about this point that I ask "what is the point of this game, anyway?" Usual suspect directors/actors get named, punchline movies get counternamed, people get pissed.
― Eric H., Friday, 8 August 2008 23:39 (seventeen years ago)
What's the point of any game?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)
harry dean stanton
― omar little, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)
Exactly.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:44 (seventeen years ago)
Howl's Moving Castle and Princess Mononoke are kinda uneven, though they're not really bad.
Tuomas OTM! At least, that is, in picking those particular two. I was surprisingly underwhelmed by Mononoke, and Howl's really fell apart in its last third. Porco Rosso isn't a favorite, either. Still, none of those are worse than "meh", and Miyazaki may be the best suggestion so far.
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Saturday, 9 August 2008 00:28 (seventeen years ago)
I want to say Hal Ashby, but that's probably because I've never seen any of his 80s movies, which are apparently so bad that they are, like, pretty much totally unavailable on DVD. Can we just pretend that he stopped c.1979?
― Deric W. Haircare, Saturday, 9 August 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)
I need to see a bunch more, but I haven't seen a poor or mediocre Powell and Pressburger movie.
― clotpoll, Saturday, 9 August 2008 03:19 (seventeen years ago)
Not Tarkovsky, Sacrifice sucked. (Both of his film school projects are better.)
I'd say Shozin Fukui, but he recently released a new movie that I haven't seen yet.
Shigeru Izumiya!
― shieldforyoureyes, Saturday, 9 August 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)
Joss Whedon!
― nickalicious, Saturday, 9 August 2008 23:59 (seventeen years ago)
Wait...can tv series count?
I haven't seen Parade, but I think if you don't count the shorts, Tati is a pretty good contender.
― C0L1N B..., Sunday, 10 August 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)
i was about to say harry dean stanton.
― Tape Store, Sunday, 10 August 2008 00:26 (seventeen years ago)
alpha dog is so incredible
WOW yeah cazale! brilliant choice. what a fucking terribly short career tho :(
― piscesx, Sunday, 10 August 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)
For director: Robert Wise http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936404/
His duds aren't really duds and his early meat-and-potatoes noirs (Blood On The Moon, etc) are terrific.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 August 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)
I'm tempted to nominate Clive Owen, although I really haven't seen any of his early pre-superfamous work. And even though Closer was shit, he came away the only likeable character in the whole mess.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 10 August 2008 10:30 (seventeen years ago)
RE: robert wise - THE SOUND OF MUSIC and STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE = ultraduds. Wise also had a hand in mangling THE MAGNIFICENT ANDERSONS, which counts as a pretty bad decision in my book.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 10 August 2008 11:43 (seventeen years ago)
If Clouzot and Wise are being seriously considered, I re-enter Bresson's name into the conversation. (Especially because L'Argent is fantastic.)
― Eric H., Sunday, 10 August 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)
Ap[art for some who were mentioned: Douglas Sirk,which, like Hitchcock is good even when he is bad. or lt least intersting. Cassavetes also had a relatively solid filmography imo
― Zeno, Sunday, 10 August 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
and Bergamn of course
― Zeno, Sunday, 10 August 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)
Terence Davies Sophia Coppola James Bidgood
― I know, right?, Monday, 11 August 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)
James Bidgood
There we go.
― Eric H., Monday, 11 August 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I thought I was being quite clever there.
― I know, right?, Monday, 11 August 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)
it's not most CONSISTENT filmography dudes. you can make some bad movies and still be best cuz you made enough amazing ones. viz. hitchcock.
― s1ocki, Monday, 11 August 2008 14:57 (seventeen years ago)
-- Scik Mouthy, Thursday, August 7, 2008 11:39 AM (4 days ago
― I know, right?, Monday, 11 August 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)
i wouldn't take his word for it.
― s1ocki, Monday, 11 August 2008 15:01 (seventeen years ago)
that said, anyone who answered someone with a really short filmography is cheating.
― s1ocki, Monday, 11 August 2008 15:02 (seventeen years ago)
: )
― I know, right?, Monday, 11 August 2008 15:08 (seventeen years ago)
I like to have seen all the movies or I can't know
certainly never seen all bergman or ozu