ACLU cries foul as city nets arrests with 24-hour curfew (Helena, AK)

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/13/town.curfew.ap/index.html

"Now, if somebody wants to sue us, they have an option to sue, but I'm fairly certain that a judge will see it the way the way the citizens see it here," Mayor James Valley said. "The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK, and we have not violated anything as far as the Constitution."

amateurist, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:38 (seventeen years ago)

sorts of gives away the game don't it?

amateurist, Thursday, 14 August 2008 09:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM

latebloomer, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

i thought this was some 30 days of blood thing

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:42 (seventeen years ago)

or 20 days of night or whatever that josh hartnett vampire movie is

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

AK is alaska

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/40_Days_%26_40_Nights_movie.jpg

and what, Thursday, 14 August 2008 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

AK is alaska

-- max, Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 AM (Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:43 AM) Bookmark Link

No, AK is Arkansas. AL is Alaska. AR is Arizona. AB is Alabama.

Don't know if Alberta has one since it's Canadian. Probably the French version or something.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:42 (seventeen years ago)

No:

State/Possession Abbreviation

ALABAMA AL
ALASKA AK
AMERICAN SAMOA AS
ARIZONA AZ
ARKANSAS AR

Alberta is, in fact, AB.

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

Isn't Arkansas where PP lives?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

AK IS ALASKA YOU IDIOTS JESUS

gbx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not saying it's not. I'm just wondering if PP gets a lot of mail returned to him is all.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

anyway, this situation is sort of fucked

gbx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

No, AK is Arkansas. I do live here. Just look at the way the name of the state is spelled Arkansas.

Seriously though, this is the same mayor who a few months ago decided to end the city's underfunded animal shelter crisis by taking all the stray dogs and letting them loose inside the St. Francis National Forest.

I don't see a problem with these dogs released, they're in no greater harm now, than when we picked them up.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:10 (seventeen years ago)

Jesus fucking christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._postal_abbreviations

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/US_state_abbrev_map.png

Are you having us on or do you really not know the postal abbreviation for where you live?

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

"As far as I'm concerned, at 3 o'clock in the morning, nobody has any business being on the street, except the law," Councilman Eugene "Red" Johnson said. "Anyone out at 3 o'clock shouldn't be out on the street, unless you're going to the hospital."

Apparently councilman "Red" Johnson has never been to a pub?

Tuomas, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

I mean unless you can see the Bering Sea from where you're sitting something is very wrong here.

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

MOssouri??? lol that map is totally fucked

goole, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

i love crazy mayor/sheriff stories. i harbor a desire to be sheriff when i grow up

gbx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

Methodology

For each state, the initial letter of the abbreviation is the initial letter of the state's name. The second letter of each abbreviation fits at least one of the following patterns:

* Each of the 10 two-word state names is abbreviated with the initial of each word:

NC, ND, NH, NJ, NM, NY, RI, SC, SD, WV

* 19 states' names are each abbreviated with the first two letters of the name:

AL, AR, CA*, CO*, DE*, FL, ID, IL, IN, MA, MI, NE, OH, OK, OR, UT, WA, WI, WY

* 15 states' names are each abbreviated with the initial and final letters of the state's name:

CA*, CO*, CT, DE*, GA, HI, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, ME, PA, VA, VT

* 9 states' names are each abbreviated with the initial and another letter from the state's name, often the second consonant:

AK, AZ, MN, MO, MS, MT, NV, TN, TX

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

Missouri is "MO" because "MI" (Michigan) and "MS" (Mississippi) were already taken

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahhaa wtf pleasant plains

and what, Thursday, 14 August 2008 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

A++ entertainment

HI DERE, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

"As far as I'm concerned, at 3 o'clock in the morning, nobody has any business being on the street, except the law," Councilman Eugene "Red" Johnson said. "Anyone out at 3 o'clock shouldn't be out on the street, unless you're going to the hospital."

My parents definitely used to think this. They still might.

Laurel, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

"In any case, young lady, there's no point in your curfew being later than 11, because nothing that you should be doing would be happening that late, and we want you off the roads before the drunks start driving. People on the roads after midnight just aren't worth the risk."

Laurel, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

No, AK is Arkansas. I do live here. Just look at the way the name of the state is spelled Arkansas.

Seriously though, this is the same mayor...

gbx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

ie you guys got punked

gbx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

maXD

goole, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

shit

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

i was joking too

max, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

"As far as I'm concerned, at 3 o'clock in the morning, nobody has any business being on the street, except the law," Councilman Eugene "Red" Johnson said. "Anyone out at 3 o'clock shouldn't be out on the street, unless you're going to the hospital."

My parents definitely used to think this. They still might.

-- Laurel, Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:32 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

"In any case, young lady, there's no point in your curfew being later than 11, because nothing that you should be doing would be happening that late, and we want you off the roads before the drunks start driving. People on the roads after midnight just aren't worth the risk."

-- Laurel, Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:34 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I always feel like the really scary drivers are the buzzed drivers trying to get home to go to bed. If you're out past 12, you're probably fucked for work the next day (in a flyover state) so you might as well wait till 1 to sober up and then drive home really slowly.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

Is this because of that politician who got shot with an AR-47?

StanM, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

no

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

The curfew is the second under the mayor's watch since the rival cities of Helena and West Helena merged in 2006. That year, Valley set a nightly citywide curfew after a rash of burglaries and other thefts.

Police in Hartford, Connecticut, began enforcing a nightly curfew for youths after recent violence, including a weekend shooting that killed a man and wounded six young people.
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Helena-West Helena, with 15,000 residents at the edge of Arkansas' eastern rice fields and farmland, is in one of the nation's poorest regions, trailing even parts of Appalachia in its standard of living.

In the curfew area, those inside the homes in the watch area peered out of door cracks Tuesday as police cruisers passed. They closed the doors afterward.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

wounded six young people.
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Abbott, Friday, 15 August 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

Curfews for youths is pretty common practice in American cities. D.C. had one when I was growing up, and a reporter from the Guardian interviewed me about it in a 7-Eleven parking lot. Being an obnoxious teenager, I banged on about how my constitutional rights were being violated. The reporter called me a "typical member of the entitlement generation" or some similarly pejorative phrase, which was entirely justified.

Super Cub, Friday, 15 August 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

yeah but this curfew is for everyone in the neighborhood

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

the youth curfew thing is just an example

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

bahahaha Supercub, reporter kind of otm. I love high school students.

Abbott, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

I really do!

Abbott, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)

"Strange things are afoot at the 7-Eleven"

Abbott, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:03 (seventeen years ago)


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