This here thread is for questions about apostrophe usage, assertions about apostrophes, or just generally a place to lay down a few apostrophes without fear of recrimination.
First question: Is "the pickin's were slim" an example of correct apostrophe use?
― libcrypt, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
I have no idea's
― snoball, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)
I am 95% sure that is correct, but it looks really weird.
― Abbott, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:14 (seventeen years ago)
Not unless it means 'the something of the pickin'. So it would have to be 'the pickin's small, furry ears were slim'.
― ljubljana, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
No, I think it's OK because the apostrophe used to illustrate a contraction of a longer word (I'm assuming in this context pickin' is a slang way of picking, yes?)
― ailsa, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
ha, if it were the something of the pickin' then that'd make it the pickin''s something, wouldn't it?
― ailsa, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
no, wouldn't "the pickin's slim" meaning "the picking is slim" work and "the pickins' were slim" be right?
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)
I view "pickin's" as a contraction of "pickings", or at least "pickin's" is the plural of "pickin'". So the question boils down to this: If a word ends in an apostrophe, should that apostrophe be retained as-is when making the term plural?
― libcrypt, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, that's where I always get confused
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:20 (seventeen years ago)
I think the occasion is so rare it may not have a rule: almost always when a "g" is dropped from -ing, it's a VERB and not a noun, so this question doesn't arise.
― Laurel, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe I'm just having a tired moment, but I can't think of another -ing noun of the top of my head. Pickings is a colloquialism anyway, I would judge.
― Laurel, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)
Being. Offering. Can't imagine them being contracted to end in in' though.
― ailsa, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)
"pickin's were slim" is correct. The apostrophe is there to mark the removal of the 'g', not to denote possession.
― kingfish, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)
drawin' paintin' openin' I'm sure there's loads
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)
Openin' would be used a lot I'm sure
Lightning.
― ailsa, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)
tellin' ya 'round these parts the pickin's're slimmer 'n a shadow on a summer's eve
― rrrobyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)
OMG I have just re-read my posts upthread, cannot believe I am trying to explain grammar when I cannot phrase my thoughts grammatically. I blame the drinkin'.
― ailsa, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)
hayo!
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, my theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever now I look at it again, it's just that, well, "pickin's", as has been duly noted, looks so, so wrong.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)
everythin that ends in a ing can be changed to end in in if you talk like that, and if you're going to write like some people talk then you're writing in dialect and the apostrophe rules kinda just go to hell anyway, not to mention a lot of other grammar regulations. so really it's just a big free-for-all.
― rrrobyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, but please don't write like that all the time, because it hurts my eyes and is borderline offensive
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:50 (seventeen years ago)
well i guess you should then avoid the many many books written at least partly in dialect
― rrrobyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)
somebody made me try to read "McCarthy's Bar", and it was just horrible, because pretty much every Irish person he meets is a big bag of apostrophes whereas he just comes out like english.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:52 (seventeen years ago)
it is true that dialect like that works five thousand times better in sound and film than written down tho
― rrrobyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)
i like reading it, however
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― rrrobyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)
Ooh now I'm thinking about -ing nouns and so far pickings (which I guess is pretty much always plural), drawing, and painting are in all probability derived from their verbs. Likewise knitting, sewing...hmm what else? Sports, I guess: diving, swimming -- still verbs. So you can "noun" pretty much anything. "Whacha doin'?" "Jes waterin' mah plantin's."
― Laurel, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
"Aw shucks"
― I know, right?, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:59 (seventeen years ago)
I hate when they drop the 'g' in ads, et al.
http://www.dealbreaker.com/images/entries/McDonalds%20I%27m%20lovin%20it%20logo.jpg
I would already PRONOUNCE it like that, what with my hillbilly ways of pronouncing things. To try & FORCE me to is kind of insulting. To me. Personally. That's right, McDonald's, I took it personally.
― Abbott, Saturday, 23 August 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)
SLIM PICKENS
http://www.rubyan.com/politics/SlimPickens.jpg
― Abbott, Saturday, 23 August 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)
a big bag of apostrophes<3
― estela, Saturday, 23 August 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)
I'm kind of lovin' a big bag o' apostrophes.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)
another casualty: RIP Apostrophe
― Aimless, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)