Wait, what?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 04:11 (seventeen years ago)
This Sunday's cartoon is an adieu of sorts to readers, but not a final farewell. She announced this month that she would retell her strip's narrative, beginning Monday, by taking her continually aging characters back to 1979, but creating new artwork and some dialogue. Her syndicate says it's the first time a mainstream cartoonist has set out to tell the same story twice.
Oh plz let Elly be a lesbian this time around.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 04:21 (seventeen years ago)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8746/hoooozo2.gif
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 04:35 (seventeen years ago)
some things just aren't worth dying for
― electricsound, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)
Ugh, this idea sounds craptastic.
― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 04:41 (seventeen years ago)
CABOOSE!!@#$@#$%%^$%#!$
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)
Oh Hoooo, how we've missed you
― kingfish, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)
maybe the arkansas democrat-gazette will pick it up again and run it up until the gay character makes an appearance (was it a friend of michael's?) and then cancel the strip in protest all over again!!!
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:12 (seventeen years ago)
lynn looks fantastic for a 60-year-old!
― get bent, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:14 (seventeen years ago)
Out to kill Farley ALL OVER AGAIN
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:14 (seventeen years ago)
also for a cartoonist xpost
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:15 (seventeen years ago)
farley, haha
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:15 (seventeen years ago)
I wonder if she ever got over Charles Schulz's disapproval of her offing the dog
― kingfish, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:16 (seventeen years ago)
A related story of interest:
You can feel the comic-strip family saga known as "For Better or for Worse" (known to some as "FBOFW," and to others simply as "Foob") coming to a close, in a cataract haze of soft focus.Foobsters everywhere, weep. Creator Lynn Johnston is semi-retiring, repurposing her archives beginning with next week's strips. A comic strip that unfolded in real time -- year by year, in which characters aged and changed and sometimes even died -- will now only look backward, with enhanced reruns. As a farewell, Johnston seems to have made an extra effort to drench this week's wedding of characters Elizabeth Patterson and Anthony Caine (if you read it, this is bigger than Luke and Laura) in even more sentimental goo than faithful readers have come to expect.And so, on that note, let us now honor a particular kind of "For Better or for Worse" devotee: the haters.These are the many millions who live to despise every last thing about the comic strip, and, as such, have never missed a day. For them, Foob has never been worse -- worse puns, worse sap, even worse life choices. (Which, in a sick way, means "For Better or for Worse" has never been better!)
Foobsters everywhere, weep. Creator Lynn Johnston is semi-retiring, repurposing her archives beginning with next week's strips. A comic strip that unfolded in real time -- year by year, in which characters aged and changed and sometimes even died -- will now only look backward, with enhanced reruns. As a farewell, Johnston seems to have made an extra effort to drench this week's wedding of characters Elizabeth Patterson and Anthony Caine (if you read it, this is bigger than Luke and Laura) in even more sentimental goo than faithful readers have come to expect.
And so, on that note, let us now honor a particular kind of "For Better or for Worse" devotee: the haters.
These are the many millions who live to despise every last thing about the comic strip, and, as such, have never missed a day. For them, Foob has never been worse -- worse puns, worse sap, even worse life choices. (Which, in a sick way, means "For Better or for Worse" has never been better!)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:17 (seventeen years ago)
-- get bent
let me tell u sister its allllllllllll lighting & airbrushing
― deeznuts, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:17 (seventeen years ago)
can we guess what sort of panel the strip will end on?
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:17 (seventeen years ago)
actually, when i first looked at the thread title and article link, i kept thinking why in the world would you start it all over again from the beginning with the family circus?! oh. still, why?
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
I think maybe there will be baby farley involved
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
Their son Michael hit it big with a best-selling novel (About what? We never learned) and he and his wife, Deanna, bought the old Patterson family home, somewhere in the suburbs of Toronto. Little sister April Patterson's band, the Archies-esque 4-Evah, broke up, then got a new singer, making them 4Evah & Eva. Elizabeth (a.k.a. Lizardbreath) gave up her new life teaching native people in the Canadian hinterlands to move home and marry Anthony, her boring high school boyfriend.
You know, I'm kind of glad I didn't know about any of this until now.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
i kept thinking why in the world would you start it all over again from the beginning with the family circus?!
Haha, if The Family Circus completely threw in the towel and went Dysfunctional Family Circus on us, I would be so happy.
Actually maybe that's Lynn's secret with the strip -- it'll all look the same from the get-go but the dialogue will all be from The Lockhorns or something.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)
what would you have done with the knowledge? xp
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:20 (seventeen years ago)
"repurposing her archives"
this is totally the spin she used to sell the idea to her publisher. be a part of history! it's the first time ever! etc.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:20 (seventeen years ago)
cmon, ned. fess up. you've totally been closely following "the intricate world of her characters" openly for years now
― andrew m., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:21 (seventeen years ago)
I *did* follow the strip for a long while, no lie -- I pretty much remember when it started. Farley dying was the last thing I remember paying attention to, though. That and the fact that Michael was a Barenaked Ladies fan in college, which seemed only apt.
"I save up all my vitriol for this piece of . . . art," says a woman named "Lia," seen on a YouTube video posted last week, in which she critiques Elizabeth's nuptial moment and wistfully ponders the end of a very long era."I predict (Elizabeth) will become a binge drinker, get a raging case of herpes and will eventually have to leave Anthony," Lia says, with that special blend of devotion and cynicism unique to Foob analysis.
"I predict (Elizabeth) will become a binge drinker, get a raging case of herpes and will eventually have to leave Anthony," Lia says, with that special blend of devotion and cynicism unique to Foob analysis.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:23 (seventeen years ago)
Wonder what the hell Michael's supposedly brilliant novel was about. I am betting he becomes the Canadian Sidney Sheldon.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:24 (seventeen years ago)
So anyway, series reboot a la Battlestar Galactica, and it's already set in Canada, even more convenient. Elizabeth will be the first known Cylon...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)
or a canadian dean koontz, only with more overt lesbian subtexts
― kingfish, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:29 (seventeen years ago)
Tried to find a recent pic of 58-yo Cathy Guisewite for comparison and failed.
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.cagle.com/hogan/reubens/reubens2006/jeannie_cathy.jpg
― get bent, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:35 (seventeen years ago)
(cathy on the right, circa 2006)
ack
― electricsound, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:39 (seventeen years ago)
Ned I don't know why any of this makes you sad?!?!?!!!! HOW would you ever get to hear April's song about turning 16, Foot on the Floor? (That's an MP3.) Or her band's song Everybody's Different? (Another MP3.)
HOW, NED???? u r missink out.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)
BOX the fucking CAR, you paranoid cranks
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:28 (seventeen years ago)
I really like For Better or For Worse, even though it makes less sense now & is less charming. That's okay, right?
Not as good as the end days of Peanuts (which are dear to me, no matter how many Rerun or 'Snoopy asks for Cookies' criticisms you throw at it). But at least she has some IDEAS and is willing to try new things. Even if they're...old things? I wouldn't mind seeing Michael get his first summer camp smooch on again, but from a new perspective.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)
MORBS OTM THX TO THIS COMIC I CANNAE NOW LIVE SAND @!&BOXCAR!@*&!!
I love Lynn's explanation that one of the factors for redoing the old comic/reverting to her early style is that "over the years, the mom's nose has grown to look like a giant potato." (paraphrase)
― Abbott, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
lynn and husband have divorced?? i am so disillusioned.
― lauren, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
For Worse and Worser
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:39 (seventeen years ago)
This'll be a good stopping place for me. Sounds like she's miserable enough after her husband leaving her that she's literally going to live in the past for the rest of her days, but I'm not interested in indulging her.
― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
Why can't it be like when they do sitcom spinoffs and she can have a new strip just called Elly!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:41 (seventeen years ago)
She should have started a new version of "Mary Worth" where a totally new character named Elly Patterson sends deadbeat dads and other worthless men to their just rewards, over a cliff. (xpost!)
― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:42 (seventeen years ago)
btw, when i looked at mary worth last week it seemed like a storyline on internet credit card fraud was brewing. way to get with the times!
― lauren, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)
I hope Berke Breathed's ears aren't perking up.
"Oliver could be on the internet now!"
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)
from comics curmudgeon:
>Phishing, everybody! Phishing! That’s what the build-up is all about. Mary Worth is going to advise its perhaps not-so-tech-savvy audience (median age: 68) about the dangers that lurk in fake spam emails from online merchants; so as not to anger the oldsters, it’s Charterstone’s resident thirtysomething trophy wife who will be defrauded and humiliated for the edification of others.
i can't help it. i love mary worth.
― lauren, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff28/beatonna/fbofw.jpg
― velko, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)
awesome
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)
Very great.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)
He already was! That was the whole point!
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4148/11oz9.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)
"Oliver could be on the World Wide Web now and have his own TWITTER."
Happy now?
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)
Beyond words.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)
In all honesty, if only Charles Schulz had thought of this in 1975.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
That Kate Beaton one = classic! Also...
http://www.tcampbell.net/2007/06/foobetter-r-foowurse.html
Though I don't know what they're getting at with that Christopher Robin / Peter Davies (who?) panel... clue me in?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)
Haha the blinking eyes – the weirdest thing Lynn has ever done to FBOFW.
― Abbott, Thursday, 28 August 2008 01:23 (seventeen years ago)
Seriously, the more I've thought about this, the more fucked up it seems.
SHE'S GOING TO GO BACK TO HER FIRST STRIP AND REDRAW THE ENTIRE SERIES?
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:26 (seventeen years ago)
YOU KNow what would be great? If like Jim Davis went back to beginning of Garfield, and just redrew everything except with Garfield being just a cat with no thoughts. Shift the focus on Arbuckle.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)
Where's that Outland strip of Oliver getting rich and lodging monitors into his eyes?
― kingfish, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:35 (seventeen years ago)
This is about as appealing as Billy Joel reforming Attila today.
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:50 (seventeen years ago)
I have been giggling at "I burn for you like a lukewarm drink" all day.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:52 (seventeen years ago)
Uh...whuh...uh...:
A: Gee whiz, we can’t even show a butt crack. I mean now I think you can show cleavage, but not at the other end. In fact, I hid a naked character in the strip for four years and not one editor found it.Q: Is that the little ....A: Ned. It was funny. Because I showed Elly sitting on a bed flapping her nightgown and I showed just a hint of the other cleavage and there was hell to pay over that. They wanted to cancel that one daily and replace it and I said just use whatever technique you like to get rid of it. So in some papers she had panties on and in others they made a wrinkle in the sheet and covered her over. Others they just use white-out. I just thought that was so darned funny I created Ned to see if they would find this little mosquito-sized man who sometimes was quite large on the window. But as long as the main characters were not exposed, this little guy never raised an eyebrow.
Q: Is that the little ....
A: Ned. It was funny. Because I showed Elly sitting on a bed flapping her nightgown and I showed just a hint of the other cleavage and there was hell to pay over that. They wanted to cancel that one daily and replace it and I said just use whatever technique you like to get rid of it. So in some papers she had panties on and in others they made a wrinkle in the sheet and covered her over. Others they just use white-out. I just thought that was so darned funny I created Ned to see if they would find this little mosquito-sized man who sometimes was quite large on the window. But as long as the main characters were not exposed, this little guy never raised an eyebrow.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 August 2008 04:54 (seventeen years ago)
Her husband was my husband's dentist in North Bay, Ontario. The scuttlebutt in North Bay reports that he had an affair.
I met her at a brunch buffet on xmas eve this past year. She was very nice. There's a great interview with her on Slate from a few years back.
― kate78, Thursday, 28 August 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)
Gee whiz, we can’t even show a butt crack
at least I can repeat this to myself to delay the inevitable nervous breakdown
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 28 August 2008 06:13 (seventeen years ago)
As one of For Better or foR Worses's biggest fans, I'm divided by this idea. But Lynn Johnston always knows what she's doing, so I trust her.
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)
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ZOOM JUST MILLIMETERS AWAY FROM A PROFESSIONAL 3-D MODEL OF ELIZABETH PATTERSON!
FOR A SMALL NOMINAL FEE, DOWNLOAD *OUTTAKES* FROM THE LIVES OF THE PATTERSONS -- YOU LIVED DECADES WITH "FOR BETTER OR WORSE". AND NOW, YOU CAN HAVE AN ANSWER TO "WHAT IF?"
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 28 August 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)
man if only the bambi 2002 thing were on YouTube
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 28 August 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
Whoa, I never knew about this naked Ned.
http://www.nedtanner.com/images/strip_one.gif
Man, I sure had a crush on Weed back in junior high. Grubby beatnik-looking bro whose name hinted at drug-doing, BUT he was a cheery, highly-motivated self-starter. He has a ponytail now, though, so fuck that. What happened to you, my love?
― Abbott, Friday, 29 August 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)
I know you've got exhibits in Canadian museums and are doing very well, but...but...the ponytail...*sigh*
― Abbott, Friday, 29 August 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)
It's gonna be awkward when patterson dies and she's only up to 1996.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 29 August 2008 03:57 (seventeen years ago)
Well, she barely draws it now anyway, so the existing artists and/or an estate could just keep it going for decades and decades. Thanks, ridiculous copyright extension acts!
― Nhex, Friday, 29 August 2008 05:38 (seventeen years ago)
As comic strips go, it's somewhat better than average (average being pretty dreadful). But, really, I can't say I give a damn about its fate.
― Aimless, Friday, 29 August 2008 05:53 (seventeen years ago)
@-@ ^U^ - O-
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 29 August 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)
April in her underwears???
― free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Saturday, 28 May 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)