Things I Have Seen on Television Today

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During the past twenty minutes, I have seen (a) breakdancing Korean pop stars (b) Spice World in Spanish, and (c) Todd Bridges making out with a young Janet Jackson. And I don't even get cable.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I envy you your happiness. That pleases me greatly -- it's like you've tapped into a new Mike Daddino Cultural Artifacts channel.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crap. I honestly had a question based on this, but I forgot to post it and now I can't remember what it was.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I get so easily excited!"

nathalie laughner, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that makes me wish i lived in your crummy imperialist pig country, sotra kinda.

unknown or illegal user, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sorta kinda that was meant to be

unknown or illegal user, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But Duane, the breakdancing Korean pop stars were on whatever Korean channel we get here, and Spice World was on Telemundo. Although I don't imagine Diff'rent Strokes gets much international syndication.

Nitsuh, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Sucker. I knew exactly what she was talkin' about."

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i just saw the last half of phantom menace - by god what a film...yeah sure, I'll let my 6 year old go off in a space ship with a bunch of hariy men with big "light sabres" and funny looking freaks...uh huh, should've been the pedophilic menace....and i know i was warned about ja ja, but there was like a fuckiing half a planet of them, and they didn't get all balsted either - oh no the shtick kept rolling, and this kid fucking flew a ship and did this weird ass stuff and i'm thinking yeah my ass, i bet you, r2d2 was fucking thinking thirty years on flying with luke - shit, i get hte backseat everytime with these fucking skywalkers.

Queen G, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Geoff you have just raised a BURNING QUESTION that I am suddenly curious about Lucas's plans for -- and apologies if this just reflects my lack of Star Wars master-narrative workings, but -- if R2 and 3PO are seriously going to be "around" through episodes 1 2 and 3 then what narrative device is going to make it so they're not later completely aware of the overarching plot?

Wait okay I suppose the obvious answer is that their memories get wiped whenever they're junked back to Tatooine. But why do I suspect that Lucas, being an idiot, will not milk this for its very huge significance, that significance being that with whatever memory- wiping goes on they love the ability to say "Hey by the way, Luke, we used to hang out with your dad but then he became evil, and incidentally Leia is your sister."

Nitsuh, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Clearly that should be "lose" and not "love," but anyway scrap that whole statement because it occurs to me that I know next to nothing about the overarching Star Wars narrative and am probably just being dumb.

Nitsuh, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Then you suck, Nitsuh. *beats him down* Yeah, it'll be a memory wipe deal. Conveniently if unplanned (I'm guessing), the original SW film allows for this plot device perfectly when Uncle Owen tells Luke to take the droids to get their memory erased after the message from Princess Leia is revealed. I could go on to quote the entire scene line for line, but I suspect that would not be desired.

Recent revelation about TPM, which I always liked and I think has gotten a bad rap -- watching it again in audio commentary mode on the DVD made me realize what an absolutely *gorgeous* film it is visually. Since I was concentrating on that by default instead of the actual soundtrack, the eye Lucas and his team have for creating startling and eye-catching imagery really is something. My favorite scene in the film remains the wordless sequence in the Darth Maul/Qui-Gon fight on Tatooine -- look for when it's nothing but a series of quick cuts showing little more than Maul's swirling black robes, light sabers and bits of the desert background. It's pure visual poetry.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What say we club together and get Ned a memory-wipe?

mark s, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nonsense. Or rather, sure, but you have to dump LOTR for your system too. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Memory wipe" makes me think of a moist towelette that you apply to yr forehead and.. presto!

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spice World in Spanish

Cool! But then, I'm a person who paid money to see Spice World in French.

rosemary, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(is spiceworld mark s approved? I forget)

Graham, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If it's not I'll be so shocked that the cleanliness of my pants will be in danger.

Nitsuh, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CREDITS
*BOMB GOES OFF*

mark s, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Richard Madeley fucking a vending machine demonstrating porn positions.

Graham, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Last night, we caught the beginnings of a scene from (allegedly) a Hungarian television show where women compete to see who has the largest nipples. Joei wouldn't let me watch (and, after 15 seconds of watching, I was happy to acquiese).

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't get cable either -- i can't handle the 6-7 channels i do catch with an antenna/solar flares, much less the 200-300 i would get with cable (though i sorely miss the food network!!)

the best channel = the NASA channel! it's like a perpetual extra-slow outer space screensaver. does anyone else get this, or am i hallucinating?

also like a screensaver but not in a good way: the worship chann

geeta, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

el. the worship channel, i mean. jesus music and rolling pastoral landscapes, 24/7. if you watch it long enough, secret mathematical messages are revealed.

geeta, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

does anyone else get this, or am i hallucinating?

Nope -- it's wonderful, and excellent for stoned spacerock.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
Can we use this thread to talk about MONSTER GARAGE, which is quickly replacing Aerican Idol in my heart???

a master mechanic assembles a team and presents them with a challenge i.e. Turn a VW beetle into an amphibious swamp-boat and BEAT a real swamp-boat in a race; turn a Chevy into a mobile wedding chapel with a working pipe organ. If they complete it they win all the tools they were given to work with, thousands of dollars worth of grinders and welding equipment and wrenches and stuff

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I've seen ME on telly today!

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

strappy work, my good mark!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yesterday I saw a documentary on leonard cohen in his zen retreat.
today I saw a documentary part of a serie on the history of the fashion industry.
no cable here either.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

saw a bit of news on tv this morning. Whilst flicking through the channels, I noticed the Channel 5 was showing something which looked like the Australian version of rod, jane and freddy. Ppl in bright clothing singing fun little songs for kids!

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Ned's explanation of Star Wars way back there still doesn't work. If they wipe the memory after the message from Leia, what's gonna happen in the meantime that would keep them from ever discussing with Leia the whole "oh yeah we totally used to hang with Darth when he was a little kid, you know he's your father" thing? (NB I haven't seen the second one and won't see the third, cause Star Wars sucks.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

LEIA: Take this message to Ben Kenobi!
C3PO: Oh, shit, that dude?
R2D2: Remember that lame-ass braid he used to wear?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

More like:

Leia: Take this message to Ben Kenobi!
C3P0: Oh, shit, that dude?
R2D2: bloop bleep blip whiz bwur bloop blip

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Ned's explanation of Star Wars way back there still doesn't work. If they wipe the memory after the message from Leia, what's gonna happen in the meantime that would keep them from ever discussing with Leia the whole "oh yeah we totally used to hang with Darth when he was a little kid, you know he's your father" thing?

Presumably they don't know a) that Leia is Anakin's daughter or b) that Vader is Anakin, and never did know -- I don't think there's any reason to assume that characters present in the 1st/2nd movies are automatically going to be privy to these things. Yoda, Owen, Kenobi, and Leia's adopt-a-pop may be the only ones (if it were me hiding the twins, I don't think I'd share that information with droids who record their memory in stealable media.)

As for knowing Kenobi -- is there really anything in Star Wars that implies they don't remember him? (I don't remember how the scene plays out, so this is a genuine question, not rhetorical.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, I see your point, Nabisco -- I was explaining poorly. The point is more that the concept of memory wipes for droids having already been established in the SW universe, therefore it is easy to include them at some point in the third part.

(near end of third part)

SOMEBODY: Well, they could still be useful, just wipe their memories.
SOMEBODY ELSE: Sure!

(memory wiped)

A New Hope:

LEIA: I need to give you a message, little droid.
R2D2: Okay. Who the hell are you anyway?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)


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