The Searchers: the Great American Movie or dated Western crap?

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The first time I watched it I was pretty let down. I tried again a year later but still couldn't see past the stiff acting, lame attempts at comic relief, and the abruptness of the ending. I didn't see this as a classic film, not in the same league with the great Westerns of Hawks.

Now I've seen it a third time, on a larger screen, I'm much more impressed. I finally realize what makes Ford great, which is quite different from what makes Hawks great (which was largely dialogue and character). It's largely the visuals - not just the gorgeous views of Monument Valley, but the close shot of the anguish on John Wayne's face when he thinks about the family he has left behind to be massacred, and the dark, twisted look he gives the children who have been driven mad during their captivity. And that truly evil moment when Wayne shoots out the eyes of the dead Indian (off-camera) and gloats that his soul will be condemned to wander forever between the winds. And then the final shot, which tells us that this will be Wayne's own fate.

It's still got all those flaws I mentioned, as well as a truly bad theme song, but I find myself phasing them out when I think about the movie, because the moments of genius stand out so much. What do you think?

Justyn Dillingham, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love The Searchers - the moral ambiguities. It doesn't stint on portraying the evils and good in both communities - the Indians and the settlers. I saw it when I was seven and loved it - Ford is very good at happiness as well as despair: the wedding, children playing. I did find the crazy old man a bit irritating though "rocking chair by the fire..."

This is my first time posting to ILE. Hullo!

Linda, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hullo!!!

mark s, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh gosh! It's YOU, hello Linda!

Sarah, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Blimey hello Linda, I'm glad you're real!

Tom, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I never really bought Wayne's change of heart at the end. It would have been much better if he'd killed Natalie Wood - consistent with all he'd said and done up to that point AND that "condemned to wander" fate thing would make perfect sense. So cannot accept it as a classic, sorry.

Oh and Hullo Linda.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hello Lindag.

Alan T, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For me, in the same way that there are authors who I love more than any other reason for their prose, I love this film for the beauty and power and majesty of its direction. And I think it's easy to underestimate Wayne's value as an actor because he was such a repugnant fool (and here playing a repellent character too). He couldn't do much, but what he could do, in the right hands, was extremely potent.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Greetings Linda -- but who are you and why does everyone already know about you but I don't? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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