what do you know about clement freud?

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i have to interview him. not for anything important or anything, just an informal chat about his time working for the Observer.

the problem is, no one seems to know exactly what he did for the Observer. i think he may have been a restaurant critic or some such, but no one's any bloody use around here. and i should really know *something* about the subject before i go. suppose i could always go to borders cafe and read his autobiography/biography...

any help appreciated (before monday), though

nickie, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

One time Liberal MP. Part time jockey. Dog food ads. Demeanour of bloodhound.

Graham C, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wrote GRIMBLE!!

mark s, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When annoyed he becomes Inclement Freud.

DG, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he looks really cool

ambrose, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

His constituency included ELY CATHEDRAL wahey!

Also, when the Callaghan govt faced the vote of no confidence that would bring it, socialist rule in the UK and the entire post-war consensus down, they offered him support for a bill he had introduced if he would agree to miss his train from Liverpool, where there was a by-election the following day, and therefore not be able to vote against Labour (the Liberals, having propped up Labour from 76-78, had by then decided that they would vote against the govt in any vote of confidence because they thought Britain needed a general election). He said he would think about it, but never considered complying: he kept a deliberately low profile but voted against the govt, which lost the vote of no confidence by one vote, and Thatcher was duly elected five weeks later.

So by all means ask Freud about the small role he played in the PIVOTAL TURNING POINT (despite itself) of post-1945 Britain

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lots of famous relatives. Has written loads about food, but I don't know if that was the subject of his Observer writing. My technique when interviewing someone without a chance to do the research or whatever was to say things like "So tell me about your writing for the Observer," which would usually give me enough info to ask another non-idiotic question. It's clearly a workaround, but it's a pretty effective one.

Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I keep getting him confused with Egon Roe-Knee (sp!!!)...

jel --, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mmm. i think the 'for the sake of the listener can you tell me EVERYTHING ABOUT YOURSELF' line of questioning is probly the key.

thanks for your help everyone, much appreciated.

nickie, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I reviewed his autobiog. He did restaurant/food crit stuff for the observer and others. ran a nightclub, drifted into light entertainment the way soem folk drift into a life of crime. the guy seems to have been a career lush. Quite funny in an effortlessly superior way that is always just on the edge of being infuriating.

misterjones, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Argagaggagagahahahaha in the Jobs and Money section there was a job going at the FREUD MUSEUM!!! (Okay the SIGMUND variety) but still... hope it all goes well Nickie, I have no clue what he did either.

Sarah, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he was brought in to try and make British Rail's sandwiches more edible.

chris, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He was a regular guest on the Dick Cavett talk show (US) in the 70s. I didn't know what he was famous for then (besides being related to Siggy) but always looked forward to his visits because he was amusing.

nickn, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it went alright. although it could have gone better i.e. i might not have unintentionally called him fat and accused him of being Labour when he was Liberal (which i knew, just a slip of the tongue that he didn't take too kindly to). i spent most of sunday evening reading profiles of him and still came up with nothing about what he did for the Observer (nobody on the Observer knew either). did learn, however, that he hasn't spoken to Lucien for over thirty years, his wife had an affair with a sixteen year old Jonathan Self (Will's bruv) when she was in her late forties with the full knowledge of hubbie (self was still invited round for tea and was invited to their golden wedding anniversary party), and that he believes that the natural state of a good man is generally to be grumpy, unforgiving and irritible (comforting to interviewer). oh, and that he hates the smell of garlic - so i kept all garlic products for teatime on purpose.

he was neither friendly nor unfriendly. seemed rude without being rude. the kind of natural insouciance and confidence that comes with a certain kind of breeding - where politeness or friendliness is deemed unnecessary - which i hate and am envious of. and he was wearing a monogrammed shirt.

anyway, it sparked off a conversation with my flatmate last night about the upper classes (or so-called) and their morality (i.e. they appear to have none - affairs all over the shop, under everyone's noses) and their lack of manners, in general. but perhaps this is too simple. the same could be said of the Lower Orders by watching a few episodes of Tricia.

anyway, i didn't really get away with the whole not knowing what the hell he did for the Obv thing. i asked him, he got shirty, i stated that, of course i knew every in and out of his journalism career but that i needed him to reiterate for the idiot listeners that wouldn't. .anyway, he sort of alluded to what he did but wouldn't tell me straight out.

when i got home i realised that i didn't tape over the first track on the minidisc where i was messing at home while listening to the streets and rapping in a mix stylee. daren't try to erase it now lest i wipe the whole interview. will have to leave it for the amusement of editorial. *shame*

nickie, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he's on the cover of "band on the run" by paul mccartney & wings.

, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

did someone already say that?

, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nickie

"he was neither friendly nor unfriendly. seemed rude without being rude. the kind of natural insouciance and confidence that comes with a certain kind of breeding - where politeness or friendliness is deemed unnecessary - which i hate and am envious of. and he was wearing a monogrammed shirt."

this is brilliant. may I steal it?

misterjones, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes you can mister jones but i shall have to demand some sweeties in return.

nickie, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He went to a progressive school where they did not have to go to lessons and could wander round in the nuddy.

Pete, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He grew tired of that school I believe, and left for somewhere more conventional.

In his credit, he did start working life as a veg chef peeling spuds in a hotel, at the humble age of 16 or so.

misterjones, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six years pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8001383.stm

What do I know about Clement Freud? He's dead :(

JTS, Thursday, 16 April 2009 07:40 (sixteen years ago)

RIP dude. Just a Minute's with you on it was better than when you wasn't.

NotEnough, Thursday, 16 April 2009 07:59 (sixteen years ago)

RIP dude. Just a Minute's with you on it was better than when you wasn't.

― NotEnough, Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:59 (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^^^this.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:00 (sixteen years ago)

Thirded. RIP Clement.

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:56 (sixteen years ago)

Fourthed. They are not making dudes like this any more :(

Pat Phoenix Wright, Messageboard Attorney (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:58 (sixteen years ago)

Imagine having Sigmund Freud as your grandad, that would rock!

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:00 (sixteen years ago)

Sigmund was pretty good at the deadpan, too.

Pat Phoenix Wright, Messageboard Attorney (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:02 (sixteen years ago)

Grimble was my hero, age 8! RIP.

Matt #2, Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:03 (sixteen years ago)

Grimble! Fantastic.

Nice story on the radio this morning about him going for a walk with his grandad. Someone was having a fit and his hat had fallen off, and people were putting money in it. They watched for a bit then walked away, and Clement asked why they didn't give him any money. Sigmund said "He didn't do it well enough".

RIP.

turnover is validating, profit is salivating (ledge), Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:32 (sixteen years ago)

I do think calling your daughter Emma Freud was maybe a joke too far.

The Unbearable Skegness of Being (NickB), Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:55 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe she was a pain in the arse as a child.

The Unbearable Skegness of Being (NickB), Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:55 (sixteen years ago)

that's a fantastic story ledge.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 16 April 2009 09:57 (sixteen years ago)

xxxpost - fifthed.

RIP.

AndyTheScot, Thursday, 16 April 2009 11:42 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://indiaknight.posterous.com/?sort=&search=freud

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 15 September 2011 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

Excellent Freud joke, hang-dog style of telling really makes it.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 15 September 2011 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/14/sir-clement-freud-accused-of-abusing-two-girls-between-the-late-1940s-and-70s

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 21:56 (nine years ago)

his wife had an affair with a sixteen year old Jonathan Self (Will's bruv) when she was in her late forties with the full knowledge of hubbie (self was still invited round for tea and was invited to their golden wedding anniversary party)..

he was neither friendly nor unfriendly. seemed rude without being rude. the kind of natural insouciance and confidence that comes with a certain kind of breeding - where politeness or friendliness is deemed unnecessary - which i hate and am envious of. and he was wearing a monogrammed shirt.

anyway, it sparked off a conversation with my flatmate last night about the upper classes (or so-called) and their morality (i.e. they appear to have none - affairs all over the shop, under everyone's noses) and their lack of manners, in general. but perhaps this is too simple. the same could be said of the Lower Orders by watching a few episodes of Tricia.

Well

lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 22:35 (nine years ago)

the ilx of the past is a another country

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:06 (nine years ago)

will they airbrush him out of the Band On The Run sleeve?

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 14:52 (nine years ago)


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