I make no claims for this being a sign of my Higher Enlightenment. Indeed, I'm intrigued by Tim's talk on the Brit TV drama thread and Nicole sometime back on Buffy about the human, direct appeal of those shows in particular, for instance, and it's patently obvious they're both some of the smartest (and kindest) folks around. And of course many are the comments on goofy/silly/grotesque moments on TV worldwide from nearly all of us. I'm not interested in anti-TV tirades per se -- but I'm also not motivated to investigate further despite all of said recommendations, thoughts and considerations.
I partially wonder if my time on the Net explains my lack of interest -- certainly it only seems to have accelerated in proportion over the years to my use/participation on it, from newsgroups in 1993 to now. But clearly many of us maintain a similarly close connection to the Net (and in many ways are much busier than I am) and still pursue it.
So I don't know -- this isn't a post diagnosing my exact unease/dissatisfaction/lack of interest. But am I alone here, I wonder?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Queen G, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
however, I do see TV occasionally - at work, at friends/relatives houses, etc.
I do kind of worry that the interweb can be become as intellectually corrosive as TV, for all its veneer of interactivity.
― DV, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I was never one of these watch-it-because-it's-there types, so I don't really miss it. I read a lot, listen to music or the radio and quite frequently (too frequently really) have a spliff, stare into space and fall asleep.
The only thing I do miss is beeing able to join in with all the 'did you see ...?' conversations. That said most times I hadn't seen the programme in question anyway.
― Anna, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Last thing I actually made a point of watching was The Century Of The Self.
― Tom, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Nathan Barley, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Jonnie, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Mandee, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Douglas, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
As I have Sky I watch a huge anmount of football, I'd watch it every day of I could, but I try not to watch too much nonsense and instead try and find gems on the food, travel and sports channels.
Of course, when bored or in need of music, there is the wanking MTV option.
― chris, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Aimless, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Now THAT'S what I call interactive cable!
― Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dare, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Ess Kay, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
It is easy to dismiss people based on their television habits, but in my defense, in between taking classes and work, I only get to spend an hour or so each day to myself. I've been too stressed to concentrate on reading a book for pleasure in that time (when I start a book I like to spend far longer than an hour on it). So tv becomes a nice little diversion, a way to cleanse the palette of all the worries I have right now.
I actually look forward to being done with classes later this week, so I will have more time to spend on creative things -- I tend to lose interest in television at times like that.
― Nicole, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
also, i don't like TV news, in all its infotainment glory. CNN news items just terrify me.
― petra jane, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sam, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew L, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Sam, I don't have any cable channels and I don't often hear my new music on TV. However, the GYM has MTV which is where I heard Holly Valances new single and made me do an extra five minutes on the treadmill so I could hear that (and 'Lazy' which is NOT good gym mewsic) - I tend to be reliant on friends recommendations and hearing music in pubs/friends gaffs/gym.
― Sarah, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I probably watch too many films. The community aspect (human contact - something shared to talk about/at) is something I like the most about TV.
― Pete, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― ambrose, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I remember a barber once saying to me something like, "You don't have a TV? You must really have to work hard to entertain yourself." I don't find it's much of an effort. Since getting internet access, I have to admit that I use it much the same way others might use the TV. Sometimes it is something to do when I am too tired to read the books I would like to read, which is often. But I also use it in more focused ways at times.
It was very strange not having a TV during after the 9/11 attack. I did feel a sense of being cut off from the people around me because of that.
― DeRayMi, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
It's difficult not to feel disconnected from human contact. It's precisely why I don't like to watch a lot of TV. Somehow, I feel lazy. Computer interaction is totally different, for me: for the most part, you aren't "watching" the monitor; nothing happens unless you _do_ something.
Oddly enough, when I had cable a few years ago, I watched it a lot more...if you call Bravo "watching TV".
Since I'm moving though, I do wonder whether I'll miss the convenience of having it.
― Nichole Graham, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
So it's a Golden Age for TV. Does "Kill Your TV" still resonate? And with so much quality programming, is there still a limit to how many hours of viewing can be enriching or healthful? How do you define quality TV?
― small Frosty (wanko ergo sum), Thursday, 20 November 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago)
There was an article about some research about this in the Times yesterday or today. Don't know if I buy it.
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I was just being a jerk. It's not so much on ILX, but off ILX I run into people everyday who explain to me how much "above" television they are. Pisses me off.
That attitude became a joke on metafilter way back when I had time to read it, the meme started out as "Is that (pop cultural reference) something I would need a TV to know about?" and became, in true meme fashion, "Is X something I would need a Y to know about?" spawning months of...well, maybe not hilarity.
― One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago)
to people who are all smug abt shunning tv im always all arent you interested in culture your culture at all dont u like moving pictures
― :) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
look i just want to know why pushing daisies gets a second season and even showtime wont buy my 70s hot pilot orgy show
― she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Friday, 21 November 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago)
not everybody who shuns tv is actually smug about it however if you let it slip that you don't watch hardly any tv ppl will always go "you smug bastard, thinkin you're better than us"
― J0hn D., Friday, 21 November 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago)
i know plenty of people who don't watch tv or went thru a no tv period. some were definitely smug, most were just "eh, too busy / i stopped watching in college / my tv broke and i never replaced it"i have never seen these people called out for being smug ever.
― velko, Friday, 21 November 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago)
I had free cable for like 10 years, and lost it over the summer...now, when you have free cable for 10 years, you just can't start paying for it...so, I don't watch TV at home anymore...and I don't miss it a bit, but whenever I hear myself 'splainin' this to people, I think "my, but aren't we a smug bastard!"
― henry s, Friday, 21 November 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I'm a smug bastard but not about TV -- as anyone who's seen me fall asleep gazing at food porn in front of the Giada De Laurentis/Rachel Ray/Ina Garten line-up on the weekends.
― One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Friday, 21 November 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago)
i love tv with all my heart
― she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago)
yeah tv is great fuck the haters.some of us don't have satisfying lives, so we need this shit.
― ian, Friday, 21 November 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago)
i am going to get a tv in august 2009
― bear of the teddy (harbl), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago)
i sometimes watch the channel 4 news and the simpsons.
THAT'S IT
― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago)
l have always loved t.v. and i have always watched a ton. i've always been jealous of people who can live without. i would get a lot more done if i didn't watch. i do watch less now than i have in the past. that's for sure. though that election had me going for months on end.
when we first moved here we didn't have t.v. for about six months or maybe longer and it was great. i read a ton and wrote a lot. ended up listening to a buttload of npr on the radio. but i was also happy when we did finally get cable.
― scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 23:04 (sixteen years ago)
when i was younger i could easily read a book while watching, but now i'm slower and my multi-tasking abilities ain't what they used to be. i do paint paintings when i watch t.v. though. and read lots of magazines while watching.
― scott seward, Friday, 21 November 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago)
i used to love friday night tv as a kid, channel four and bbc 2 would be SLAMMIN.
takeover tv, the word, don't forget your toothbrush, bottom, harry enfield, fast show, fist of fun, adam and joe, red dwarf, some foreign language film where you'd see a lady's bits, eurotrash, cheapo 80s sci-fi and horror, weird animated shorts, reruns of classics like blackadder or the young ones...
ride my bike around after tea for a bit, then watch these gems on my goldstar portable.
― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago)
OMG friday night tv when i was a kid (7-8ish) was so great. i get mcdonalds or KFC and my mom would go out til 3am w/her boyfriend and id watch THE LOVE BOAT
― she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Saturday, 22 November 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago)
TV? I only read it for the articles, I never look at the naked pictures.
― a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 22 November 2008 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
Not having Tv for me is like enjoying cheese (the food) but otherwise rarely eating it. BUT, Upon consuming the cheese after a long break,, it's so lively and enjoyable. Whereas if ate cheese everyday, it wouldn't pack any pinch, and it would be taken as granted.
I say this because I was watching close-captioned Kitchen Nightmares for the first last week, at a bar, and for that half hour, it was the best thing ever. Then I forgot about how enjoyable it was.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 22 November 2008 06:11 (sixteen years ago)
I'm a bit drunct
I spent the a year or so without tv and when I had one again I remembered how awesome tv is sometimes.
― Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 November 2008 06:13 (sixteen years ago)
a friend of my girlfriend doesn't have a television, and whenever its on at her house, he can't stop staring at it, and will watch WHATEVER is on.
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:28 (sixteen years ago)
My ex sometimes gets cross when he comes over and I do put on even a DVD (let alone the TV) because he wants to talk to us all and the TV is distracting. I get this point - TV makes it too easy for people to sit together in a room and have no freaking interaction with each other. It has its uses, but like the internet, it really is socially damaging oh god I sound like an 80 year old, dear god.
― Trayce, Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:44 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah but you're otm.
― monkey bonkers (╓abies), Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:53 (sixteen years ago)
i need the tv on all the time even when im not watching it because fuck if im actually going to give my brain the silence to start thinking about stuff
― she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Saturday, 22 November 2008 13:01 (sixteen years ago)
^^^^^^^A+, full agreement from every member of my family; it frustrates me sometimes but still
― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 22 November 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago)
At the risk of sounding self-righteous, TV bores me. I was raised on it, and I've seen 1000 episodes of Three's Company like most people my age, but nowadays if I try to sit and watch television -- even (and really especially) cable news -- for more than about an hour, I start to go nuts. It is profoundly understimulating. Nothing makes me want to read a book more than watching TV.
Frasier is good, though. ;)
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:31 (sixteen years ago)
I feel like TV is the informational equivalent of the Red Eye, the free newspaper that you get on the train in Chicago that has two pages of the top AP news stories, and 30 pages of things that did not need to be printed anywhere ever. You actually feel dumber when you're done reading it. TV is almost always like that for me. Even (and really especially) cable news.
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago)
This is also why I stink at bar trivia.
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago)
dont be so hard on yrself - an hour of cable news is a good run
― :) wealth destruction! (ice cr?m), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:40 (sixteen years ago)
― J0hn D., Friday, November 21, 2008 2:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ this. I don't think I'm better or smarter or any of that. I'm restless and I bore easily. That's all it really is. It's not like I learn or do great things when I'm not watching TV.
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:42 (sixteen years ago)
Its the ads I cant bear. They're loud, compressed, offensive, stupid, and wind me up something fierce.
― Trayce, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago)
We just have a video projector and watch DVDs. No TV. When it was election time we'd just watch the debates at a friend's place. Worked out fine.
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago)
i want a video projector!
― bear of the teddy (harbl), Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago)
Totally.
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago)
I would watch TV more often if "The Cosby Show" was on 24 hours.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago)
― Trayce, Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:52 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^^^^ The first time I seriously went without TV was after moving in with my uncle when I was 18...probably for about six months. Went back home and I could not believe how plastic and condescending it all sounded. I mean, I knew it was that bad, but until then it just washed over me like nothing.
Also, what Kenan's sayin.
― monkey bonkers (╓abies), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago)
I've taken a break from most of the crap I've been watching for the past week and feel much better, becaue frankly most TV isn't very good right now and I've been wasting my time with rubbish (dirty sexy money? this thing is going to get cancelled, why waste my time?)
― akm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
Plus the title is ridiculous.
― fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
well yeah but it seemed like it was going to be good last year. the cast is great. the show is terrible.
― akm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
If there is one thing that I can take or leave with equal enthusiasm, it's television.
When I was the quiet loner who lived next door, I rarely watched television. I went nearly a decade without cable, watching everything on rabbit ears. I just went to the bars more often.
But even though I consider myself not a TV person, I do enjoy being able to watch anything at any time with our expanded cable package and DVR. I was skeptical about letting my daughter watch too much TV, but she loves to dance in front of it and was counting along with one of the shows this morning. She gets plenty of book time as well.
I was raised in a household where the damn TV was ALWAYS on. My dad was the kind of guy where if I was sitting alone in the living room quietly reading a book, he would come in and look around with a confused look on his face, turn the TV on, and then leave the room. Partly based on that, I still resent the idiot box a little bit.
But not enough to salivate over AT&T offering me a way to watch my fantasy football stats change in real time while I watch a Chiefs game.
― ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago)
Happy people don't watch tv, apparently.
― Kerm, Saturday, 22 November 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago)
I dig lots of TV but don't leave it on as background noise or anything. I generally sit down to watch something specifically, and nowadays it's always on the DVR which makes TV 1000x better. No commercials, no worrying about what time stuff is on, no flipping channels aimlessly. I won't even watch stuff live anymore, I'll wait until it's half done so I can skip commercials.
― a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Saturday, 22 November 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago)
he would come in and look around with a confused look on his face, turn the TV on, and then leave the room.
this is why your father an i get along so well
― she should look better if she's gonna be a bitch like that (sunny successor), Sunday, 23 November 2008 18:54 (sixteen years ago)
My TV-watching life:
Ages of earliest cognizance-age 16: every fucking sitcom ever, and Nightline or 20/20-type shows, and cartoons, and PBS, a good five hours a day during school and more in the summer. (We didn't have cable.
Ages 16-20: Just sometimes watched TV, but hogged the TV for MTV2 if I was at the house of a friend who had cable.
Age 20: Moved to Boise, MTV2 was free???!!! But it didn't show a lot of videos. A lot of time getting high and staying up at 2 a.m. when they did show videos.
LATER at age 20 I did mushrooms for the first time and an after effect was getting actively angry at a television every time I saw one, leading to me not watching TV for two years.
22-on: Usual stuff: Colbert, Frontline, House, whatevs, blah blah blah. I think John got me into watching TV again.
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago)
I had nothing to do here for the first week I moved here besides be sick and not have a job, and I got really addicted to Dr. Phil. 5 p.m.-6 p.m. was the one good hour of my day.
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago)
last nite I ate monkfish wrapped in prosciutto followed up with fatted duck breast -- if TV had meat like that we'd all fall off the wagon!
OH FUCKING MAN I WOULD EAT THIS SO HARD
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago)
I've watched obscene amounts of television in my time, but these days I find it difficult to do. I try to catch 60 Minutes, but usually end up forgetting to...I try to watch The Office, but usually end up catching it on hulu the next day.
I get free cable somehow, but nothing particularly seductive. If I had TCM I might never go outdoors.
― del (dell), Sunday, 23 November 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago)
when we had a kid I wondered about how much to expose him to, and decided not to worry about it. he didn't watch or see it that much before he was one which was probably good, but he's two and a half now and it's pbs all morning. his verbal skills and general mental acuity seem to be way beyond a lot of other kids his age so I don't think it's hurt and sesame and stuff definitely probably helped him learn to count and the alphabet. the other thing is that by letting him watch some of it, he can kind of take it or leave it now, he doesn't demand it and it can be on and he barely pays attention.
― akm, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago)
I'm very much pro-telly when it comes to my kids. I realize the (good) children programs can teach them things.
TV makes it too easy for people to sit together in a room and have no freaking interaction with each other.
RONG. This could apply to reading just as much, if not more. With television you do tend to chat between eachother or at the very least comment. With reading (or even knitting, which I do) one tends to talk much less. (Actually with knitting I do tend to talk if it's a simple project.)
I have a really kneejerk reaction when someone proudly proclaims s/he doesn't have television, doesn't watch it, as though it suddenly makes him/her more enlighted. Kneejerk in the sense my foot wants to hit'em between the legs. That's not to say I watch a lot of telesion programs. I usually stick to the Wire (and other tv shows) boxsets.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago)
It's not like I learn or do great things when I'm not watching TV.
yeah, I'm no smug fuck, I just waste my time in other ways, possibly even less productive! At the times when I do watch TV I find myself doing absolutely nothing with my time other than waste it, so it's generally best to avoid. I'm only trying to avoid becoming a slug.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago)