What You Know About UK Crime?

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What the hell, I heard about the Krays in that Blur song, that Morrissey song, heard that the Krays movie was great (it was BUNK).......are the Krays like the only halfway notable gangsters you guys have?

Ramosi, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, there's that Jack the Ripper guy, but his money-making schemes were a bit obtuse.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All I know I learned from The Long Good Friday.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hoooligans.

Queen G-bah Humbug, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Someone tried to rip off my car on friday night (note to charver TWOCers - popping the cover off the steering column to hot wire a car is not much good in a car where thee ignition is between the seats heh heh heh)

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's all I know abt UK crime at this moment in time

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yo, are you and a-33 brothers? I really need to be sleeping about now but if that were true, I'd be the happiest guy on earth.....why is that?

Ramosi, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

watch "Rogue Trader" and "Sexy Beast", that will tell you all you need to know about UK crime. oh, and "High Heels and Low Lifes"...

katie, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

UK crime = the bunny with the shotgun!!

mark s, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We also have 'Mad' Frankie Fraser and the Richardson brothers (rival gang to the Krays), amongst others.

'That Was Business, This is Personal', by Guardian hack Duncan Campbell, is a good bk on the subject.

Andrew L, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What about the Dome Diamonds gang? They were pretty good. Well, not at robbery but it was an impressive (attempted) crime.

Emma, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, Howard Marks, Ronnie Biggs...

Rick, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, but Ramosi asked abt gangster - Marks and Biggs are just common- or-garden crims... I mean there's loads of serial killers we cld mention too - Sutcliffe, Nielsen, Brady/Hinley etc etc

Andrew L, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I suspeckt that getting yer car nix0red, having a couple of skanks rip yer money off from the ca$h machine and suchlike is a lot more typical of yr average brits Xposure to crimz than anything gangsterish. I am told that certain sects of "our friends in the north" were extremely authentic &basen on real people, like. That's as close as I want to get, certainly.

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
Sometimes, in the UK, you get only nine years for crimes like this.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

That's ... incomprehensibly disgusting.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

No words are strong enough to express what I think about this.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

This is a terrible story, but I think there must be more to it. It says the girl had taken a "cocktail of drink and drugs", but nothing about the condition of the stepfather. If he was in a similar state, of course that doesn't absolve but it might explain the 9 year sentence.

Very horrible, anyway.

Cathy (Cathy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it raises all sorts of questions, which I began to puzzle over, and then got way too disgusted to really want to bother thinking about. I'm guessing he thought she was incredibly drunk, but not in danger of death -- just so much that she wouldn't wake up or remember anything -- and decided this was some kind of grand opportunity to rape his stepdaughter "without consequences." I don't even like typing that. Then he realizes she's really seriously injured herself, and needs medical attention, and suddenly consequences rush up to make themselves very clear to him.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 February 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

What's really sick is that that's the most charitable theory you could possibly have about what happened.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 23 February 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

In the UK people like to go out in public and attack random strangers while someone films it. It has become something of a pasttime over there. They even have parties where everybody shows their videos to each other and they sit around laughing and giving high fives.

naus (Robert T), Friday, 24 February 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

See? They call it "happy-slapping", and EVERYBODY in the UK does it. I knew I wasn't just making things up.

naus (Robert T), Friday, 24 February 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)


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