Are "hipsters" this decades "yuppie"? ? ?

Ban-able thread, I know, but fol low me here. We have an imagination of the 80s yuppie as being a total meathead douchebag, which is fair enough, there were probably plenty of them. But after spending the past few days watching a million mid-late 80s movies and a good dose of A Different World, I have come to the conclusion that 80s NYC yuppies and 2000s NYC hipsters are the same person. If anything, one is the parent and the other is the child.

In those 80s movies, yuppies were always made fun of for loving "vintage" things, and moving into lofts in places like Brooklyn and Long Island City. They were also criticized for their love of Japanese design and culture. Things accented with the "yuppie touch" always involved half-underground half-mainstream music acts, not like ... Huey Lewis or Phil Collins which has become our popular vision of the yuppe through movies like American Psycho.

Of course 2000s NYC is my 20-somethings zeitgeist, so I am looking into my own mortality here.

("hipsters" meaning the tards I've rubbed shoulders with in Williamsturd, GRPT, BUSHWRIK and other places, not necessary what its become through movies like LORETTA"S INFINITE PLAYLIST and Turban OutfitterS).

Trying coming up with a definition as snappy as self-evident as "Young Urban Professional" for this nebulous hipster strawman, and you might be onto something, in demographic terms, at least...

hi burt_stanton! do you have a website or blog where you record your keen-eyed, acerbic cultural observations?

Yes I do Robert Spirillum. Just walk around NYC, you even see that weird yuppie 80s bowlcut on chicks now. look, my friend ... in that crowd, youy may even find .l.. yourself

would you like to use your blog then?

Nah, I thought this thing was likie ... all NYC and London, and it involves 50% of that demographic. UNless you live on a farm or something.

(note: the original post was more about catch-all terms for a certain 80s white urban demographic, and how they both pretty much fit the void each filled in that decade). So excuse me on my quest t obe the next MOMUS

I think it's hilarious how 1) defensive and 2) in denial ILX is on the hipster question.

I think it's hilarious how many stupid hipster threads there have been and how people feel the need to continue to start new ones.

what's a hipster?

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Main difference between the 80s and now: back then, the hipsters did not want to look like yuppies and the yuppies did not want to look like hipsters. Now they all pretty much dress alike.

Which is one of the main reasons that no clear definition of "hipster" (as applies in the 00s) has ever emerged and the discussions about hipsters never seem to have any fucking point.

Also, Yuppies had jobs.

burt i know i give u a lot of shit but you are becoming consistently top-5 for me

youre like a somewhat more self-conscious + neurotic luriqua

"turban outfitters" loooool

No dude (xpost). Hipsters have jobs and don't have jobs. That's the whole fucking reason why "hipster" (for the 5 millionth time) does not mean anything as used today.

yuppies don't have jobs anymore; I read it in the New York Times.

this has gotta be like the sixth thread Burt has started complaining about his peer group.

"turban outfitters" = what i used to call wholesale liquidators on broadway

Potential for crass Atlantic Avenue jokes

Potential for craoss Atlantic Avenue jokes

I am getting pretty sick of otherwise cute girls with fully-tattoed arms wearing summer dresses, fedoras and cowboy boots. What an awful look.

I found me
In williamsburg
A Dynasty haircut on my head
No idea where I am
Where is my Frogurt?
Where is my kombucha?
Where are my tatoos...Lacoste...I'm drowning and we all like David Byrne

least yuppies knew how to put on a suit that fitted

hey look burt_stanton started a thread about hipsters

ps. tl;dr

I'm more concerned about what the hell Burt is doing watching 80s movies and A different World when he should be studying. Seriously, dude. First year grades are the ones that get the job offers.

burt can you post a pic of yrself in various everyday clothings so's that we can judge just how hipster you are? After all, "hipster" just means "more hipster than me".

*the premise of this thread does not necessarily reflect reality.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Combination_enema_and_douche_syringe.jpg/200px-Combination_enema_and_douche_syringe.jpg

you, my friend, are the combination enema and douche syringe.jpg

i thought it was powerful enough not to need a caption, but that works.

love this indie dude
Oh my god, I'm a hipster
at what point did grind core and black metal become the hipster music du jour?

related:
Why are sweaters considered wussy?

Also some ballachingly tedious thread about a girl who elects to have herself nailed by a "Pitchfork indie rocker" (repeated about 50 times in thread thereafter) instead of ILX poster burt_stanton

I have a theory too: yippies these days wear nappies. But seriously, there is in fact a common trait between yuppies and hipsters: lack of maturity. Hence the self-referential soul-searching threads and discussions about who is what etc. Also both generations consume way beyond their own needs and both are prematurely nostalgic.

A little time spent gazing at the Parthenon Frieze would cure them of their immaturity, eh?

VISION I LOVE U

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http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x85/coachrules1/AllTimeLow9.jpg

http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/Vision/VisionMiniShot.gif

I would have gone with his stat card from the marvel rpg

I think it's hilarious how 1) defensive and 2) in denial ILX is on the hipster question.

― thirdalternative, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:15 (5 hours ago)

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gr8080, thank you, I hear I know right and Everything is Highlighted do too.

Everything, looking at great art does help because it puts concepts like beauty and artistic endeavor in their proper perspective, and it makes you proud to be human and belong to a certain universal tradition, but it's not enough.

You see, even Goethe was immature once. It's nobody's fault, it's a bridge we decide to cross I guess, but with these two generations, sheltered as we were from war, conscription, food scarcity etc I think the comfort zone became too vast, so that we have thirty/twentysomethings playing videogames, whining because of trifles, collecting expensive stuff that remind us of our childhood and so on, basically there's much arrested development in people born since the Sixties. I think you become an adult when you see how hard it is produce real value in the world.

there's "too" much arrested etc etc

oh shut the fuck up.

^^ trolling for a suggest ban

yeah hopefully the global economy will collapse and thirtysomethings will start wearing sensible shoes and reading canon poetry

xps ian says it better i guess

http://yogan.meinungsverstaerker.de/fun/Jesus_Fucking_Christ.jpg

I think you become an adult when you see how hard it is produce real value in the world.

I thought the only people who said things like this filmed plastic bags tumbling in the wind.

masses of people wasting their time on useless bullshit is a side effect of liberty and prosperity. love it or leave it.

"even Goethe was immature once" is the new "boys will be boys"

Other signs of immaturity: avoiding tough issues through cursing, attempts to be shocking, throwing a tantrum, hissy fits etc.

goole, I won't even try to reply because it's another discussion, but believe me when I say consummerism on the scale we have today is not healthy and not really free, since it's often based on too much unwarranted credit, conspicuous consumption, pecuniary emulation (i.e., peer pressure, keeping up w/ the joneses etc) etc. It's a side effect, but not a mandatory one, it reflects a choice made by people for which they (we) must be held accountable.

people are held accountable, this is one reason why we are having a massive economic recession now

you won't even try to reply with your long and detailed reply? ok i'll wait for your reply then.

Vision, where is it, deep inside you that, that makes you think you can just pontificate like this all the time? Like, where does this authoritative tone comes from? It just comes across as, well, cheeky really, to keep vomiting up this stillborn, vaguely aphoristic nonsense in this smugly assertive way. I mean, considering it's so glaringly obvious that you're a complete idiot who just spouts drivel, filtered through a thesaurus.

Hey Vision I Suggest Ban'd u :(

me too high five

Also why do you only show up on threads that might be *controversial* and dive into some clueless diatribe?

If hipsters are this decades yuppies, what will the next generation's last days of disco be?

The decline of American Apparel?*

*I love American Apparel

Is "Vision" this weeks "burt_stanton"?

http://jimmyaquino.typepad.com/photos/san_diego_comiccon/vision_scarlet_witch.JPG
(l-r: vision, hipster.)

I think that's a titster

i think Vision is some kind of Darth Nabisco or something. Like, trying really hard to come across as level-headed and on point but just so empty and hollow, like the dark side of the force.

and he uses the phrase "keeping up with the Joneses"

i am the small cat, "people" in this case are mostly middle-class couples struggling to raise a family, not 20somethings rambling on the internet, complaining and drinking Mountain Dew.

goole, it's not detailed, you're just used to lighter fare perhaps, but that was just a casual comment really. Still, I doubt you can counter those arguments against excess consummerism.

vision don't listen to these fools I understand you keep up the good work

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/2849314329_870941d937_b.jpg

Vision we were spawned from the same pool. and one day we shall retuirn among our kind. but until then we must live our livers as anchorites of values in this world.

through these words, my friends of ilx, you can see into the small window of our stone cells. but one day you too willsee the beauty in the stream of light in which specks of dust float and twirl

bard stedmanor of renassaince fair poetry fame

its FAIRE dude, cmon

high IQ thread of the day, thanks burt stanton.

Where is my Mountain Dew?

;_;

Brad, dude, ok, it's a deal. Abbot, meanwhile, here, have some hipster mead:

http://dieline.typepad.com/blog/images/2007/06/03/fullspread.jpg

that is okay I just swallowed some No-Doz down with a cup of corn syrup.

aren't hipsters basically just a regional version of any other 18-25yo clique? they strike me as cut from the same cloth as these dreadlocked pot-smoking patchouli smelling hippy-wannabe kids who hang out in the Haight, even though both groups probably despise each others aesthetic.

yes, i'm rockapads and i'm old as shit.

"decade"

I am getting pretty sick of otherwise cute girls with fully-tattoed arms wearing summer dresses, fedoras and cowboy boots.

When you are tired of this, you are tired of life.

wow a thread w/ vision and thirdalternative and burt_stanton - what an all-time classic - i cant believe i forgot this existed

what's a hipster?

― carne asada, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 17:17 (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Can we have a thread on this?

the hipnity xp

i wonder abt this question sometimes (the answer is yes btw)

Oh yeah, I totally found confirmation for this when I got stoned all day and watched those weird genre channels cable gives you that no one ever watches just so they can say "we have 300 channels!"

A bunch of the movies were from the late 80s and were about yuppies, and get this ... the people considered yuppies were: graphic designers, artists, copywriters, etc. They were yuppies because they worked in creative fields, lived in urban areas, and paid attention to current fashions. Sound familiar???

yeah like charlie sheen's character in 'wall street', or patrick bateman in 'american psycho'. no wait.

the irony is today's hipsters probably work for those 300 channels

ironically

i dont think thats irony

I actually think burt was on to more than he got credit for.

"too hip" maybe

how come everyone always says "hipster" but no one ever says "hip"

max...are you being ironic?

""yes"/"no""

"even Goethe was immature once" is the new "boys will be boys"

lol

Ban-able thread, I know, but fol low me here.

come on dudes/mods he's *daring* you to do it

is pigeonholing that un-pc?