Ironic Botox Injections: Classic or Dud?

ahem, sorry, back to nutsacs.

'scrotox', amirite

fascinating article in the new ish of fantastic man on dr fredric brandt, dermatologist to the stars and world's biggest botox customer. what an unusual-looking chap.

There's another guy in London who is a big botox doc; basically he sleeps with socialites and has B6T0X for his license plate.

Theory: women who have botox injections don't do it to attract men, but instead have this and other work done because of what it says to other women (mainly 'I'm expensive and you're not').

Don't even get me started. It's way too fucking depressing. :-(

I endorse suzy's theory. It has plausibility out the wazoo.

What it says to me is "I'm shallow and status obsessed and have more money than sense" but hey, I'm taking those bitches money so I can STFU, can't I?

Anyway, what about the men that go for Botox? Customer base coming up to almost half and half these days.

I'm not sure whether to rejoice or weep my fucking eyes out for the future of the human race.

OK, my job fucking DISGUSTS me. I've had enough Sailor Jerry to say that now I'm not at work.

Theory: women who have botox injections don't do it to attract men, but instead have this and other work done because of what it says to other women (mainly 'I'm expensive and you're not').

I would expand this theory to allege that probably most of the things women do in the service of "beauty" is not done do attract men, but rather to attain (often competitively) a general free-floating beauty standard that is totally independent of anyone's gaze or what anyone finds attractive and is just a cultural thing in itself

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^ that has typos and makes it sound more complicated than it actually is, but you know what I mean -- beauty ideals are so totally not about what men find attractive, they're just cultural ideals that all people keep afloat

this is why guys saying "i like girls who dont wear makeup" is never actually going to get girls to stop wearing makeup

i got someone to stop wearing makeup once by saying that

Only once?

yeah for awhile. . . then she went the other way and became a circus clown

As a generally skeptical young lady who seldom wears makeup, "I like girls who don't wear makeup" always seems to have an undertone of but it would be way, way okay with me if you did!

I know there must exist men with this true preference, but I was raised in such a way I can never truly believe it.

That's the wrong undertone; it should be will this line get you to fuck me? plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

Hahaha OR THAT.

The main time I can remember having that makeup conversation was in college, and the undertones were more like this:

HER: I don't wear makeup (and I'm bummed because it's my belief that this makes me less attractive to guys I actually like -- by the way, you are totally not part of that category, which is why I am telling you this)

ME: Oh, I like it when girls don't wear makeup (also BTW I totally want you and feel slightly humiliated that your big Scylla & Charybdis proposition here is "wearing makeup" vs. "being interested in someone like me")

I dont wear makeup much (not on a day to day basis, certainly) - mainly cause it gunges up my skin something rotten and I hate that feeling. I always feel vaguely self concious tho because I have blotchy skin, so at least foundation would probably make me look a bit nicer :/

But yeah I get the "I prefer no makeup!" all the time from guys! I think a lot of guys find overdone foundation comical, and hate kissing lipsticked lips.

But, but...the gothics?

My wife wears no make-up, and that's A-OK by me. Kissing foundation, lipstick, etc is kind of gross. And make-up looks really weird when you're close to the person's face.

Abb: I'm serious, I dont wear makeup! Or dress goth, apart from like, twice a year going to a club! Gahhh!

mildly disappointed that no-one has picked up the 'scrotox', er, ball and run with it

we still have cold water

Wz gonna have "never mind the botox" as screen name but changed me mind.

maybe it shd be never mind the scrotox

I don't wear (much) makeup because 1 I am too lazy, 1 feel there's no point cause I'm too fugly anyway so why bother 3 get up too late so have to run and 4 I am CONSTANTLY touching my (parts of my) face.My friend tried to convince me to buy a pot of cream for 55 euros. Uh, no, thanks. She also does botox from time to time. Honestly,I can't tell the difference.