Has Gordon Brown fckd you ovah ?

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i dony usually pick on ppl wiv dead kids but that fucker was so smug about putting down the price of pints before the world cup in a ^ of the little ppl will love this^ as well as bingo - im moved to kabul to sell digital tv to warlords in exchange for ak47's - on my return i will set up krazee junta an' give everyone an x-box

― a-33, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Gordon Brown hasn't fucked you over.

― Mark C, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I will be TWO POUNDS a month worse off - a disgrace, off to Tory Central Office with me etc. Luckily I have realised that I can absorb this cost by buying one less Ayingerbrau at the monthly ILE drinks. For somebody else, obviously - who will volunteer themselves for this sacrifice to keep my budgeting on an even keel?

― Tom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

good job im ill, married with kidz, and self-employed

― a-33, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

whoah - WEEve got extra £9.70 a month - fuck the rest of you - socialism ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

― a-33, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No I have not been fucked over. It probably end up earning me more money as one of them public sector people with key skills and a winning smile.

ANd hey, the NHS needs more money to make the food better (or if my currently hospitalised sister would have it - put a McDonalds in).

― Pete, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Running SOAS quiz = urgent and key skill

― RickyT, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes.

― Mulleted phonics drummer lookalike, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Royally stuffed, although can't be arsed to work out exactly by how much - lose out on Nat. Insurance with the ceiling being lifted, and fail to gain on the extra child allowances as I'm above threshold.

I don't really mind paying more if it'll sort the NHS out, but it's disgraceful that Blair has waited until now to put money in. It's depressingly predictable obv. as it's ideal timing from his p.o.v - con us that they have it under control in first term (lots of talk of 'prudence', adhering to 'spending limits') so that they can buy a second term. Then cane us early on and hope for just enough improvement for the spin doctors to work on to allow them to scrape in a third time, which they probably will due to parlous state of opposition. Use of weasel words like 'turning around the NHS is like turning around an Ocean liner' certain in run-up to next election.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian Reade (A left wing Richard Littledick for thems unacquainted with his work) in Today's Daily Mirror:
Brown gets us on right tax at last
WELL, Labour's lap-dog back-benchers certainly obeyed the Stalinist orders to look glum and wear black armbands yesterday, didn't they?
What were they ashamed of? Where was the whooping and hollering to greet the first honest Labour budget for 25 years?
Had I been among them, I'd have cartwheeled across the floor, banged the Mace to the Tarzan beat and told myself it was days like this that first made me crawl to the bottom of Westminster's greasy pole.
Days when after five long years you can go back to your constituency and look your own people in the eye.
What a weight off every lifelong Labour voter's shoulders Gordon Brown's statement was.
How beautiful it was to see him get out of the closet, clutching the fiscal concept that dare not speak its name. Tax and spend. And to finally remind us of the point of this government. The British people didn't hand Tony Blair an election landslide in 1997 to make those with comfortable lives even more comfortable. He didn't win on a promise NOT to raise taxes. If that was the only ambition British people had for themselves they would have carried on voting Tory.
They voted him in to address the deep decay in our society brought about by two decades of rule under the most brutal, vindictive, free- marketeering butchers our nation has ever had to suffer.
And nowhere had they wielded their axe more violently than on the greatest Labour institution of all. The NHS.
But this government should not get carried away with praise from its heartlands, because yesterday was also an admission that its first term was a waste of space.
Four years spent convincing floating voters that they were Tories in disguise, happy to stick with John Major's spending levels. Meanwhile our public services stumbled to the brink of collapse.
It was a scandalous waste of opportunity. A scandalous betrayal of everything Labour stands for. Blair also knows that the crisis in our hospitals has become so serious that if he'd failed to address it he'd have been booted out at the next election.
But let's accentuate the positive for once. By showing it is not afraid to raise national insurance to deliver everyone a decent health service, Brown has cast aside the paranoia that gripped Labour since John Smith's 1992 shadow budget, and re-stated what it stands for. Not the party of cowardly stealth taxes, but the party of principle. And it was for those principles that the people in this country elected them.
Yesterday Labour sent out the message that the fourth biggest economic power in the world wants to be ultimately judged on how well it treats its poor, sick and needy.
It was the day when the modern Labour Party finally trusted its supporters, pinned faith in the decency of those who want a fairer Britain and ditched the idea of keeping happy those right-wing enemies who instinctively despise them and everything they stand for.
The day, despite Tony Blair's true-blue tie and the muted lap-dogs, they stood up to be counted.
The day they came of age.
― Nathan Barley, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What news of Smirnoff Ice?
― Graham, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That is a terrible article. Old labour so deserved nu-labour, even if none of the rest of us did.

― mark s, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What's terrible about it? And why did 'Old' Labour (whatever that is) deserve New Labour?

― Nathan Barley, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

spin kidding itself it's dish: they lost elections they should have won

― mark s, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't get that spin thinking it's dish. Could I get it in English?

As for losing elections they should have won, true. But that only accounts for 1992. But then Governments lose elections, rather than oppositions winning them. The Tories had the temerity to surrender their one remaining election winning asset - sound finances - 5 months after the 1992 election. And after Black Wednesday, there was no way back.

― Nathan Barley, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I lose a little on nat.ins. I gain a little on business tax it seems = i am neither worse or better off. We will see if family tax credit gets a little higher for us

― Norman Phay, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dish

― mark s, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

No, Brown will not turn Swedish in one spasm. It took the Social Democrats nearly 70 unbroken years of steady progressive government to reach this civilised state of relative equality, high living standards, excellent public services - and high happiness ratings. It needs citizens who want to travel that way. It needs trust in government, which semi-anarchic Britain and its poisonous rightwing, anti-state press forever undermines. (Yes, scandals all governments have, in Sweden too.)

it's time for gordon brown c/d

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

reasons not to trust the government.

1) lied about iraq
2) has wiped ass w. magna carta
3) innaresting fundraising methods

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

These will be the same Swedes who sterilised "mental defectives" in their thousands, eh Polly?

― Dadaismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

This idea that because people haven't done everything good, it means what they have done is somehow tarnished as sell-outs / betrayers / backsliders is fucking juvenile. I fucking despair. The left act like such immature dicks at times that you really what the fucking point is.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

dave, for fuck's sake get some perspective!

what good they've done is far FAR outweighed by the bad.

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

but y'know, it's easy for me on my whopping graduate salary, which easily covers the thousands of pounds i had to borrow to go to uni, so i should shut up.

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

I await your ideas as to how to make this any better, aside from saying 'nu labour' aren't much good. I'm assuming you're not enamoured by Cameron, so I'm wondering what you'd actually do, apart from sound off, which is the political equivalent of pissing down your leg.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

it keeps me warm.

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

But preferable to Blair pishing on your chips, surely?

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm voting for Charles Mingus Campbell next time, me.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Beneath the Underdog indeed

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

"the left"

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

what in the name of fuck is she on?

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 24 March 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

... Gordon Brown's first Honours' List?

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

class war!

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 24 March 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't checked as to whether I'm better off,but as a single working person with no kids I do realise that the Budget is never going to be to my advantage. Ever.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 24 March 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Go and procreate then

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

TS: middle-class individuals being better off vs society being better off.

only these days we don't really have a choice which side we take.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Being single doesn't make much difference, there's no benefit to being married with no kids unless you're over 70.

xpost

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

(unless anyone wants to give me tips on how to initiate a peaceful socialist revolution.)

x-post

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

ts: middle-class individuals being well-off vs families being well-off vs society being well-off

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

ts: the status quo v REVOLUTION!

ts: status quo v billy bragg.

ts: "down down, deeper and down" v "we keep buying things when we don't need them/but as long as we're comfortable/
it feels like freedom"

(it only scans if you bark it in an essex accent. and i might not have got the words exactly right, but hey.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

You had me at quo

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Notice how no politician ever talks about "working families" anymore, it's always "hard working families" - I suppose because "working families" is too close to "working people" is too close to "working class" (verboten). But what about families that aren't hard working, and like to kick off their shoes occasionally instead of having their noses to the fucking grindstone 24/7??!?

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so not middle class. For any number of reasons...

As for the procreation thing; one day I'll find a woman stupid enough...Or a eliable supplier of Rohypnol.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

And I fucking despair of the "shut up, keep behind the Party, don't expect too much all of sudden, prudent prudent prudent, one day the millenium brothers and sisters, noses to the grindstone I HAVE BEEN TO THE MOUNTAIN HALLELUJAH CAN I GET A WITNESS??? AND I KNOW ONE DAY MY PEOPLE WILL BE SET FREE!!!!! PATIENCE!!!!!!!!! ohshit the gap between rich and poor keeps getting bigger and the Party isn't even interested in making the World 'better' just 'juster'" FUCK THAT SHIT. That's not Politics. That's not a manifesto to march behind. That's the shuffle of feet in the soup queue.

Sorry for complaining. I'm sure my time would've been better spent auditing my local PFI Health Trust.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

noodle otm!

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I've been despairing of that since before Blair was elected leader

― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Damn straight, Dada, but for me the failings of Blair brought the failings of the Party as a whole into sharp focus.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

BROWN'S TEARS OVER DEAD ~~LEADERSHIP BID~~ BABY evening standard hoarding is desperate.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

A bit harsh, that.

Although I did think the splash headline should have been "Tears of a Brown" rather than "Tears of Gordon".

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

putting a pin in this till the week really but holy fuck. i generally only ~~link to articles from~~ read the guardian so completely missed this story. it's quite big.

― That one guy that quit, Saturday, 31 March 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=0FZMDHEQ4BYFNQFIQMFCFFOAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/03/31/nbrown31.xml

― That one guy that quit, Saturday, 31 March 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

I want to grapple with why he chose to do that - some sort of short-term gain is the only thing that springs to mind - but it's Saturday so I think I'll be better off playing Civilization.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

Misread thread title as "Has Gordan Brown fucked your ova."

― Jesse, Saturday, 31 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

whatever happened to the geordie racer??

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 31 March 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

I liked the metro headline the day after the budget - "The Gord giveth and the Gord taketh away".

― chap, Saturday, 31 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

The Gord is thy Go(r)d

― Frogman Henry, Saturday, 31 March 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

Bollocks to middle england Gordon. Let the tories have them.

― Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

And the rest of the country as well due to the way the British electoral system is laid out.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain Britain! Right, where's my standing ovation?"

― onimo, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

And the Mail didn't even mention him on their front page. unless he mentions Madeline McCann he's not gonna get a look-in.

― Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

unless he ~~mentions~~ finds Madeline McCann he's not gonna get a look-in

― Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

The McCann arc is reaching second-wave depression: just like the first furore, the papers will get bored of nothing happening, and put Maddy on the backburner.

― Just got offed, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

That prompted me to visit the Mail website to see what the leading story was. It's a Madeleine story.

Anyway, Gordon Brown is beating David Cameron on the "who is the biggest Tory arse?" poll
Which leader best reflect traditional Tory values?

1 David Cameron 47%

2 Gordon Brown 53%

From the same people who think:
On balance, has the surge in immigration been good or bad for Britain?

1 Good 14%

2 Bad 86%

shocker etc

― onimo, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

so all the mail ppl are going to vote labour next term?

― ken c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

Fingers crossed.

(Either that or push for a new leader before the next election)

― onimo, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

The Mail's pro-Brown, anti-Cameron schtick is some of the weirdest stuff British politics has seen in a long time, even if it's obvious where it comes from (Dacre and Brown are friends, Cameron really isn't very good at energising the base support).

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

no has commented yet on the sun's eu referendum campaign yet, which seems to consist mainly of photoshopping brown's face onto winston churchill flipping a v.

― acrobat, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

It's some good Photoshopping.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2007441222,00.jpg

― onimo, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

who decided that we want the referendum?

― ken c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

Rupert Murdoch

― Ed, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

I want a referendum to decide whether or not to have a referendum

― ken c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

There were some poll stats in The Sun, MORI I think, that suggested that if Brown opposed the EU Treaty, he'd get something like 49% of the vote. Which is... yeah.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

After all, Europe has been such a big vote winner for the Tories in the last few elections

― Tom D., Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

fixed

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/1438195048_ebefbfdf29.jpg?v=0

― ken c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

erm
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/1438195048_eb22f827c9.jpg?v=1190726115

― ken c, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

Jacqui Smith thinks that Gordon Brown combines the best of Obama and Hilary

― laxalt, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

There were some poll stats in The Sun, MORI I think, that suggested that if Brown opposed the EU Treaty, he'd get something like 49% of the vote. Which is... yeah.

-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 13:02 (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

Those...were...the...days my friend, we thought they'd never end...

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:03 (seventeen years ago)

(or, more the point, he;d get likened by the Sun)

― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

Where does GORDON BROWN stand on following topics:
BINGE BRITAIN
FERAL YOUTH
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT
PROHIBITION

Or did SO BRAVE Warrington dad GARY NUMAN die in vain?

And why oh why has COWARDLY DARLING done a turnaround on MAKING ROMCOMS PAY THEIR TAXES?

― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

What the fuck is up with the Darling u-turn on making Russian crookslegitimate businessmen from the former Soviet Union pay up?

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

why do CRASH gordon and socialist ELITE still ignore cries of VICTIMS of liverpool ticket FIASCO? romanian CHILD gangs enrolling on SYTEMS THINKING courses on TAXPAYERS money to learn how to FIDDLE benefit system.

― Filey Camp, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

they might leave the country, and that'd be awful because they employ tens of lawyers and prostitutes.

xpost

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

They're shipping them in to feed the need!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

Fiona Phillips would have nothing to talk about otherwise.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

There's always Heather Mills...

― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

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