S/D: Nagisa Oshima, renegade filmmaker

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Due to scarcity of discs, I've only seen Cruel Story of Youth, Boy and Gohatto, all recommended esp the first two, and Max Mon Amour (not so much). There's a comprehensive Lincoln Center retro now, to be followed by a multi-city tour.

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/006729.html

http://www.filmlinc.com/wrt/onsale/oshima/program.html

It's gonna be tricky with the October baseball, but I'd like to get to Night and Fog in Japan, In the Realm of the Senses, Empire of Passion, Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:56 (seventeen years ago)

Diary of a Shinjuku Thief is really fried and good.

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

Basically its a doc/fiction mash-up like WR: Mysteries of The Organism, only with less decapitations.

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

I really liked Taboo. In the Realm of the Senses is a snore though.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

Rosenbaum declares the retro the NYFF highlight:

http://www.artforum.com/inprint/issue=200808&id=21140

Where Oshima differs most strikingly from an antisentimental, leftist provocateur like Buñuel is in the relative absence of humanism in his work. (Boy, a mainly sympathetic look at a lonely ten-year-old con artist, is a rare exception.) If The Sun’s Burial (1960)—an early shocker about rival street gangs in an Osaka slum—was partly inspired by Buñuel’s Los Olvidados (1950), as the British DVD’s liner notes maintain, the notion of Oshima showing any tenderness toward his doomed punks, as Buñuel does toward Jaibo, is unthinkable—even if Oshima is no less outraged by corpses being dumped like garbage. And the repeated occurrences of sexual assault (mainly rape) in Cruel Story of Youth, The Sun’s Burial, Violence at Noon (1966), Sing a Song of Sex (1967), Death by Hanging, Diary of a Shinjuku Thief (1968), The Man Who Left His Will on Film (1970), Empire of Passion, and Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence—usually committed by his protagonists and often seen as acts of rebellion against the Japanese state (a view at least contested in Death by Hanging)—suggest that, with the possible exception of In the Realm of the Senses, feminism and nonviolence are not exactly hallmarks of his leftist positions....

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

merry christmas mr lawrence is great, though bowie might put you off. also, one of the greatest ever film soundtracks (composed by ryuichi sakamoto who also stars)

rio (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

between its relentless cutting and moral quicksand, Violence at Noon is exhausting on first look. Apparently Kino put out a DVD in '02 that's out of print.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

saw Taboo this weekend – great kitsch.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

have only seen in the realm..., which i liked lots. the rare erotic-obsession movie that manages to be actually erotic and obsessive. feels really crazy by the end.

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

The 'renegade' thing is correct, yes. He is my fave of all the big Japanese auteurs, really all schizo and critical and at war with anybody and himself, almost irrationally so...but he doesn't forget to make his films look good at the same time.

'Ceremony' is another must see.

Would love to see so many more of his, esp 'Night and Fog in Japan', its kinda right he takes the title from a Resnais doc.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

I think I have to choose btwn The Ceremony & The Man Who Left His Will on Film this Sunday, cuz I'm not sure I can take two of his back-to-back.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

Don't know about 'The man who left his will' but 'The Ceremony' has quite a lot of stuff about baseball (had to read the notes about it). Don't know if that helps..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

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Dr Morbius, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, the baseball-related pain was notable. Oahima's melodramas are unhinged and exhausting but never risible.

I didn't know going in that Death by Hanging was a black comedy.

Anyway, this retro is touring Minneapolis, Vancouver, Cambridge, Seattle, Berkeley, D.C. and Rochester.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 October 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

also, the Cinematheque Ontario's essay on the series (w/ recommendations at end):

http://www.cinemathequeontario.ca/programme.aspx?programmeId=228&page=1

I didn't like Diary of a Shinjuku Thief very much just cuz I don't like the late '60s 'political' Godards it approximates all that well either.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

Oshima's dramas tend to walk the line -- I think that wedding in 'Ceremony' is something Haneke is totally capable of doing, and happens to also be an overtly political film in the way it tries to portray a dissatisfaction in the direction Japan followed post-WWII right?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:06 (seventeen years ago)

Oshima is much funnier (on purpose) than Haneke.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:10 (seventeen years ago)

I am pressed to find any occasions where Haneke tried to infuse any of his films with humour!

Anyway, picked up 'Night and Fog...' DVD on a sale. It turns out to be a bit like 'Ceremony' but centered on a single wedding. DVDs seem to cause distractions, yet to finish, but so far so great.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 October 2008 09:13 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

Night and Fog in Japan has some amazing lighting & compositions, but I felt lost a lot re the postwar radical politics. I'd like to watch it w/out subtitles. (also the quick lateral pans wore me down)

Dr Morbius, Friday, 3 April 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

DItto. Frustrating and kinda irritating overall.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Friday, 3 April 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

Oshima retro at the NFT in September. Watching Diary of a Shinjuku Thief and one more.

Is Empire of Passion worth a watch?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Diary of a Shinjuku Thief drained me => this was great.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

Did the decent thing and posted a thread on ILB about it:

Best bookshop scenes on film

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

Coming In May

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 February 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence out from Criterion this week... A lot of it is POW camp-camp, but lawd a'mighty, Ryuichi Sakamoto looked like one of the most beautiful men to ever walk the earth (and wrote a good score too).

http://www.genjipress.com/img/dvd/2009/B00022VMJE-01.jpg

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 September 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

the interviews on the criterion in the realm of the senses are p entertaining; lol @ a story by an asst director abt auditioning a young actor for the lead who after being unable to get it up suggests "i might be able to get an erection if oshima fondles it"

johnny crunch, Monday, 13 June 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.asahi.com/obituaries/update/0115/TKY201301150349.html

Seems that he has died today, of pneumonia, at the age of 80.

He was a great filmmaker. RIP.

my chemtrails romance (c sharp major), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

RIP.

'In the Realm of the Senses' was one of the Scala in Kings Cross' regular rep bankers; I saw it there on a double bill with '9 1/2 Weeks', of all things

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

Sad news, but a full life!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

damn, rip

turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

Was watching Double Suicide: Japanese Summer just last week.

What a run of his films, with In the Realm of the Senses to come too:

1967 Sing a Song of Sex (A Treatise on Japanese Bawdy Songs)
1967 Double Suicide: Japanese Summer
1968 Death by Hanging
1968 Three Resurrected Drunkards
1969 Diary of a Shinjuku Thief
1969 Boy
1970 Man Who Left His Will On Film
1971 The Ceremony

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

ok I have yet to see Three Resurrected Drunkards but how tell me how it can't be anything less than great w/this synopsis:

A trio of bumbling young men frolic at the beach. While they swim, their clothes are stolen and replaced with new outfits. Donning these, they are mistaken for undocumented Koreans and end up on the run from comically outraged authorities. A cutting commentary on Japan’s treatment of its Korean immigrants, this is Nagisa Oshima at both his most politically engaged and madcap.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

it's bananas, but not one of my favorites.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

merry christmas mr lawrence is great (...) also, one of the greatest ever film soundtracks

― rio (r1o natsume), Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 15:58 (4 years ago)

^bears repeating

M. M. 54ND, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

damn, really need to watch more of his stuff. there's about a dozen of his films on hulu+ fyi

steaklife (donna rouge), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrF4YATAvc

meisenfek, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

For all of you who were once boys or girls, we include you in our prayers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn0L_z02oXw

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

RIP. Watched Cruel Story of Youth tonight in tribute.

Jah Creature (WilliamC), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 04:59 (thirteen years ago)

His Obit, v slight, has this factoid:

Oshima gave up directing to become a popular talkshow host on Japanese television

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

lol

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

seeing he had done nothing since gohatto at the turn of the century, i assumed he was too old/unwell to make films

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Knew he had a stroke so knew not to expect anything.

Must've been a treat. Imagine coming back tired week at work blah blah...and there is Nagisa Oshima to erm entertain you for an hour or two by slipping in a few Marxisms and interviewing Japanese porn stars.

Beats Jonathan fkn Ross, that's for sure.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:26 (thirteen years ago)

I liked his appearances as a judge on Iron Chef.

Jah Creature (WilliamC), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

apparently he had his first stroke before Gohatto

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

can't get this out of my head so it shouldn't be out of yours too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G0AqFp1_eM

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 10:45 (eleven years ago)

I love this track, i thought I was tripping when I saw the movie. Apparently it was a big hit at the time, the band were called The Folk Crusaders, the lyrics are nuts too.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 14:00 (eleven years ago)

lol, so this starred The Folk Crusaders. Forget A Hard Day's Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYgYEwTRLgc

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 15:51 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

magnificent repertory film program is screening restorations of Death by Hanging, Diary of a Shinjuki Thief, Boy, The Man Who Left His Will On Film, and The Ceremony at the end of may

Which should I see? All of them??

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:11 (ten years ago)

Where is that? got a webpage?

I'd see all of them. If you had to catch a couple and haven't seen any I'd say Boy and Diary of a Shinjuku Thief.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 22:47 (ten years ago)

I know Boy (hey it has a kid, so that's easier somehow) and ceremony (its around a wedding and has more easy-ish satire and a couple of laughs) are the ones most highly regarded but you've got to bone up for the other ones so go for Shinjuku..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 22:49 (ten years ago)

yes, you should see all of them; those are probably his best films. shinjuku thief is very "difficult," depending a lot on understanding the historical moment in japan.

death by hanging was a relevation when i saw it, back in college.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 23:38 (ten years ago)

revelation

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 23:38 (ten years ago)

I saw a couple of the more 'famous' ones then saw Death by Hanging and that's where this guy just became someone I needed to see almost anything by. Even things like Dear Summer Sister where the context is hard to grasp -- and Oshima has said he doesn't really mind if a non-Japanese audience is able to follow it.

Which is fine.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 23:41 (ten years ago)

only seen 'death by hanging' and 'boy' of those five but really liked em both, esp. the former

donna rouge, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

havent seen Shinjuku or Will (i think). Maybe if im not moving apartments at the end of May i'll trip over.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 00:15 (ten years ago)

only seen 'death by hanging' and 'in the realm of the senses'. loved both especially the latter.

tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 00:16 (ten years ago)

okay so basically I should just see all of them

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:23 (ten years ago)

xyzzzzzz check out http://ihousephilly.org/calendar/the-ceremony

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:24 (ten years ago)

tbh I haven't even had that much experience w/ non-Kurosawa Japanese film ("Good Morning", "Woman In The Dunes", "House", "Branded to Kill", a few others maybe) but everything I've seen I have really, REALLY loved

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:27 (ten years ago)

'in the realm of the senses' is m/l garbage, 'death by hanging' one of the best movies ever made

een, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:28 (ten years ago)

It doesn't make any sense not to like 'In the Realm of the Senses'.

tbh I haven't even had that much experience w/ non-Kurosawa Japanese film ("Good Morning", "Woman In The Dunes", "House", "Branded to Kill", a few others maybe) but everything I've seen I have really, REALLY loved

― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't be surprised if you end up feeling there are gaps and need more context.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:29 (ten years ago)

i think that's mostly true of shinjuku thief... although that film is confusing not only for its now-obscure (to non-japanese at least) political references but because of its discordant and heretogenous texture ... "action theater" is mixed with docudrama mixed with melodrama etc. it's nuts and not easy to like.

"death by hanging" probably demands some knowledge of the mistreatment of koreans in japanese society, but the exposure of official hypocrisy and the formal game-playing is easy enough to grasp if you've experienced anything like godard (although i won't join the folks who claim that oshima was "copying" godard--if anything i think they were on an equal plane).

"boy" is probably the most, erm, accessible of these films, although that's a weird word to use for a film that's so existentially unsettling. but if i had to show someone one oshima film it'd probably be that one. (although my favorite oshima might be the totally zany "three resurrected drunkards," in which--spoiler alert--nearly an entire reel is repeated to discombobulating effect.)

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:41 (ten years ago)

I just bought this http://www.criterion.com/boxsets/720-eclipse-series-21-oshima-s-outlaw-sixties

and I'm excited to see it.

Actually, I have an interest in Zainichi Koreans and didn't know about Death by Hanging. I've read some history on Zainichi Koreans and Korean-Japanese political relations so it'll be interesting to see it from that perspective.

Amateurist, are you Japanese?

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:25 (ten years ago)

the screenings always have both fliers w/ an article about the film and also someone usu does a brief introduction before the screening

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:41 (ten years ago)

A few of his films are about the treatment of Koreans in Japan as 2nd class citizens. A sympton of what is wrong thing.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)

some ppl are really bothered by the rape scenes in his work (many in films i haven't seen).

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:07 (ten years ago)

i've heard a lot of inappropriate (uncomfortable?) laughter at some of the rape scenes. the depiction of sexuality in oshima or indeed many japanese films is never simple. in oshima there will be seemingly misogynst elements side by side with stuff that could be interpreted as feminist (much as in godard). i think you have to view it through the prism of psychoanalysis, probably--the idea of contradictory and eruptive sexualities as being a kind of disruptive force in society. imamura also tackles these ideas with a more obviously feminist slant.

F♯ A♯ (∞) -- no i am not japanese at all!

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:32 (ten years ago)

The marxism is the other layer, i.e. capitalism has destroyed certain expressions of sexuality, so he depicts certain extremes as a claim back move.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:16 (ten years ago)

five years pass...

floored by Death by Hanging but ambivalent about Sing a Song of Sex and Three Resurrected Drunkards... until that final sequence, and that final shot. Both remind me of initial encounters with certain Godard movies, often w/o a lot of context that isn't necessary but helps.

flappy bird, Sunday, 12 July 2020 06:48 (five years ago)

five years pass...

Heading into that Radiance box :)

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 11 January 2026 18:49 (three weeks ago)

Looks really good

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 January 2026 19:11 (three weeks ago)

Somewhat related as two v political filmmakers

https://www.ica.art/films/in-focus-adachi-masao-film-politics-revolution

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 January 2026 14:19 (three weeks ago)

Both Revolution +1 and Escape were hurried, cheap budget, but nevertheless really moving on a politics that has collapsed in different ways with consequences that are there for all to see = Gaza.

+1 had this shattered family angle, the scene where the would be assassin looks on at his mother cleaning the courtyard outside their house and imagines them having a nice conversation around eating out together will remain with me for a long time.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 January 2026 10:11 (one week ago)

Interesting to read the old posts on this thread while I go through the set. Didn't feel any Godard at all in Death By Hanging - what a total masterpiece btw - but Diary Of A Shinjuku Thief def has that 60's Godard vibe of trying to cram in as many different things you're interested in as possible at high speed. Dunno if Oshima is less suited to this mode or if I lack the cultural context...

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 26 January 2026 19:53 (one week ago)

merry christmas mr lawrence is great, though bowie might put you off. also, one of the greatest ever film soundtracks (composed by ryuichi sakamoto who also stars)

So after all this time, having only seen the occasional still from it, I finally saw this, and at a one-off big screen showing at my local Alamo to boot. I get its uneven reputation, but I admire the end results nonetheless -- I think Bowie holds his own and I was kinda amazed Sakamoto was cast strictly because Oshima saw a photo of him during his YMO days and thought he'd be good for the part. And he was and delivered THAT score as well; hearing it on a full theater sound system was a trip. But I'm mildly surprised I hadn't realized or known beforehand that this was also the big screen debut of Beat Takeshi!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 February 2026 23:15 (three days ago)


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