ts: ed hardy vs affliction

hey guys pay attention so these shirts are the new thing to hate on, in case you were just noticing them right now

you are supposed to hate them as much or more than stripey shirts okay?

where are people buying all those ed hardy shirts? urban outfitters? the internets?

at cool parties

see, the objective here isn't so much to prove you have any sense of tase, but you MUST prove that you are "with it"

p.s. i sure do hate those frat boys

you have a real problem with these shirts!

it's a work thing for me

it's getting increasingly difficult to find a simple plain t-shirt in los angeles or even a dress shirt that looks dope in the front but then you whip it around and OHHH a stamp of a ferocious tiger.

bad form on the last sentence but you get me meaning.

I was in NJ last weekend and saw more Ed Hardy shirts than I'd ever seen in one place. Yuck.

ya i mean elmo i feel u on the bandwagon jumping but lets be real, these shirts are fucking ugly and frat boys are douchebags

fratbags are doucheboys and i cannot dispute this, and yes, blame the consumers but i am in the position where i get to take their money so it's easy for me to say that

that they are ugly is only secondary in the reasons why this shit bothers me. what gets my foil-printed, rhinestone encrusted goat is that these designs are totally arbitrary, but an assorted grab-bag of heavy uber-masculine signifiers, it's just moronic in the technical sense of that word

like, when you are a little boy all your clothes have trains and fire engines on them and when you reach puberty you trade them in for skulls and wolves or some shit

my girlfriend shamed me when she moved in earlier this year by going through my closet and noting all the shirts that had skulls on them. they were more "subtle" than this shit but i was kind of horrified at myself nonetheless.

lol u live in LA

anyway, i cast my vote for those fucking prayer beads the ed hardy model is wearing. THOSE THINGS ARE STILL AROUND.

i didn't note whether you're supposed to vote for what is better or worse because i figured either way we all lose

Seen today on campus:

1 Ed Hardy shirt
0 Affliction shirts
3 or 4 Obey shirts

^^ OH SNAP

at cool parties

When we were in Las Vegas last weekend we encountered "Christian Audigier: The Nightlub" at Treasure Island. They were advertising a guest appearance by The Hills' Lauren Conrad or someone like that.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I kind of like the Ed Hardy skull (and other traditional tattoo art), by itself. Gimme a mostly plain t-shirt with that graphic on it somewhere small? I'm in.

Just what the world needed:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-04/46542317.jpg

As for the wine, it's really not half bad. It's bottled in France by the Castel Group and imported by Nicolas Wines in Connecticut. The Ed Hardy label goes for $10, and the Christian Audigier label goes for $20 at Costco.

The Ed Hardy label helps address a specific problem in the wine business, according to Nicolas Vice President Gene Schaeffer.

"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business," Schaeffer says. "When this idea came along I thought we could develop new wine drinkers."

Claude Ruau-Choate, the wine buyer for Whole Foods in California, says the same. "In the long term, we're trying to build an audience," Ruau-Choate says. "This is the perfect introduction. It's fun. Wine doesn't have to be difficult."

man, the Affliction shirts are annoying. I'm trying to enjoy rocking my Beherit and Burzum and Darkthrone shirts and now a buncha meathead bros have to rock skulls and shit and I have to sadly fold my tents and go home.

my girlfriend shamed me when she moved in earlier this year by going through my closet and noting all the shirts that had skulls on them. they were more "subtle" than this shit but i was kind of horrified at myself nonetheless.

My boyfriend gets a bit testy when I note that a lot of his shirts have skulls on them - also more subtle than those pictured above - I think it's cute. But I wonder if his defensiveness somehow stems from the implication that it's a teenage boy aesthetic as opposed to an adult male aesthetic?

no aesthetic

"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business,"
"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business,"
"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business,"
"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business,"
"There's nothing really new and exciting in the wine business,"

ed hardy will finally get people to drink wine

i think the general look of trad tattoo stuff is kinda cool, but it seems it's been hijacked by douchebags and made into really tacky clothing and branding.

there's a huge fat guy where i work who wears almost exclusively shit like this. i want to punch him in the throat.

lol where tha fuck are u ppl buying "subtle" skull shirts

Lol I have a skull shirt. It's a Homostupids T and I think it's a pisstake as much as it embraces it, but still I feel like I'm being judged everywhere I go.

Lol and I just remembered a time out to dinner with my gf and her friend in which they had a brief exchange that concluded skulls on clothes=played, both oblivious that I was wearing a shirt with a neon skull/lightning bolt.

teeears

this is one of those things where you hate them because of who's wearing them, because idk if there's anything inherently wrong with these designs for the most part

are you blind

jesus dude

for instance whiney, if you started wearing ed hardy and affliction i wouldn't hate you

i think this should be a thread - whiney goes to a brooklyn loft show in an ed hardy tee - will his friends and colleagues hate him? an interesting social experiment imo

They sell Ed Hardy temporary tattoos at Michaels.

i mean they're just a douchier, more crowded version of graphic design I already like in metal

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zpB9ZEe8p8k/Rw_ti52MTgI/AAAAAAAAAAw/3iBMGl4Dfjw/s400/ISIS_sos_boxcover_preview.jpg

yeah guys it's a douchier version of something good so obviously it's ok

take away the hideous logo and shrink the whole design so it's not spilling all over the sleeves and it would be a pretty dope shirt imo

http://www.okayfans.com/p_images/aff-ts/affliction%20t-shirt-33.jpg

except for that isis design isn't printed w/ foil and doesn't have a huge rose over the top of it

dude

whiney

"this design would be fine if we just changed it!" is not an argument

This is like when Alfred said he liked Kate Capshaw's performance in Temple of Doom.

challop ... failed

http://www.afflictionclothing.org/afflictionthisrt/affliction-man-t-shirt/affliction-t-shirt-wholesale-supplier%20(37).jpg

its only a matter of time, art school kids will be wearing this ish soon enough

― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 21:48

already happening in london, saw a girl wearing a christian audigier t shirt over a vintage ballerina dress in new cross the other day, kid i know at goldsmiths is incorporating ed hardy style stencilling into his shit too

gross

came to post basically what deej did. the gravewave kids are gonna be all over this stuff come 2015

xxpost -- Surely that's just explained by being in London.

i've noticed a lot of girls' converse have the totenkopf on them

idk i'd guess it's already happening in american h____r enclaves, surprised deej hasn't seen it yet

wearing this shit ironically is 10x worse than wearing it jersey shore style

http://bentcorner.com/wal-mart-is-selling-shirts-with-a-nazi-ss-skull-on-it/

how can one tell if it's first-wave sincerity or second-wave irony, can we see the forest for the trees yet w/r/t this particular issue

how can one tell if it's first-wave sincerity or second-wave irony

whether the pecs and tris fill out the shirt or not

there's something about the way super-tough dudes have to peacock like this which is weird. sometimes it hits on actually cool styles, but sometimes you end up looking back at photos and you're wearing the stuff new kids on the block told their stylists to return to the store.

― omar little, Friday, January 21, 2011 4:53 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

hdu donnie wahlberg is a mensch

http://bentcorner.com/wal-mart-is-selling-shirts-with-a-nazi-ss-skull-on-it/

haha i was basically kidding. i dunno, i mean, i get why people flinch (i flinch more at the iron cross than i do at the totenkopf) but this stuff waaaaaaaay predates the third reich and i feel like people probably oughta err on the side of not caring.

there's something about the way super-tough dudes have to peacock like this which is weird. sometimes it hits on actually cool styles, but sometimes you end up looking back at photos and you're wearing the stuff new kids on the block told their stylists to return to the store.

― omar little, Friday, 21 January 2011 21:53 (3 minutes ago)

discussed the uk versh of this demographic (the hated ~sports science bros~) in "Hipster" as pejorative.

basically they catch onto h____r trends from like 5-10 years ago, often in a kinda warped way, but it's def going in reverse....kinda uptight whiteboy roidhead/'thug' signifiers are going to catch on in a big way with the cool kids, i've seen this shit in like new cross, clapton, going to be in daltson and then become a kinda 'mainstream cool kid' style soon imo

i will never express anything but love for donnie wahlberg esp for still calling himself "donnie"

xp (not that i don't totally feel that bit in peep show where guy's like "let's just put a zip here, a swastika there. who knows what these symbols used to mean! who the hell even cares?")

christ there's actually a 'hood named clapton over there

yeah it's like a crummy part of east london that some lame artbro types are tryna colonize cuz the og h____r enclaves are too expensive now

you sure seem to know a lot about it

;p

is hipster being img-replaced around here? guess i'll find out

no idgi either

yeah idk e, if yr observant u see these kinda things nahmean?

nah goole just can't stand typing it

first world problems

hah yeah

yeah, nm was just a bad attempt at a joke from last week's whole K guessing where you live thing

google hipster and find nakhchivan

Where I live kids wear $10 t-shirts and don't understand why people pay hundreds to look like a drug dealer.

an old folks home?

bump-tish

how do we feel about this subtle variation, is the question

isn't that the s totenkopf logo

with a bullet hole in the head tho

looks like the severed skeletal head of princess leia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

that's possibly even more offensive than the swastika :x

ss were the worst of the fucking worst

obv

still think an old prussian military insignia based on about a million other military insignias and used by the ss amongst others is less unpleasant than the actual emblem of the nazi party but yeah i mean i'd prefer to just not see any of this stuff anymore

quibbling over the semantic power of different bits of nazi regalia seems like a weird but possibly inevitable direction for an ed hardy thread

did yall know that in some cultures, the swastika means good luck

like in nazi culture eg

as in "good luck to us nazis on our holocaust"

quibbling over the semantic power of different bits of nazi regalia seems like a weird but possibly inevitable direction for an ed hardy thread

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 21 January 2011 22:18 (3 minutes ago)

the iron cross is all about hipsters empathizing with the kulturkampf of the bismarckwave, which spread like thru the teutonic lands with an alacrity not seen until the twin flanks of vice / twee hipster shite encircled christendom in the 2k0s

:-) max

do any art school kids dress like smash mouth circa 1997? some looks will just never be cool

― David Warner (Princess TamTam), Friday, January 21, 2011 3:52 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno this look is way more distinctive than, like, baggy cargo pants? idk wtf smash mouth wore

imo this is just male mom jeans (but worse)

i think it'll depend on when ed hardy falls off for normal dudes & starts hitting thrift stores real hard but i can totally see it

"normal"

dude it has happened already, ed hardy shit has been all over the place for years, it's def peaked as a roidbro style

yeah i mean i figured we were past peak but its not cheap as shit yet so there are steps 2 go

peak oil
peak hardy

related?

arguably

goes like this:

1) trendy name-brand bullshit apparel first shows up on the more fashionable name-brand bullshit people
2) TNBBA trickles down and begins to show up on less fashionable people
3) TNBBA is abandoned by FNBBP and left to the hoi polloi, who revel in it, believing themselves fashionable
4) eventually, everybody move on and the once-TNBBA is universally abhorred, begins to show up on the homeless ("no fear")
5) piquant combo of cognitive dissonance and nostalgia intrigues younger hipsters, rehab begins

i think we're still a ways away from phase 5, re: ed hardy. somewhere between steps 3 and 4, imo.

i dont think it really works like that

shhh, you