The Drunken Obama-McCain Debate Thread

"liveblog" that shit here

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I'm 70 miles away from the next president!

Their force fields make it difficult for me to get any nearer.

the debate that almost wasnt

is this shit really at 10 eastern? can we move it ahead if so?

osama obama

I thought 9pm Eastern?

10pm! I've been drinking since 4. not good.

9 eastern!

oh dear live drunking of mcainblogoma

I'll be at a friend's house. Wish I could be here with you guyz.

******SPOILER ALERT******

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Gotta bike down to the bar, gotta get my tire fixed, gotta get out of this office

xp jesus christ, they couldn't find a better pic than THAT?!

Fox News is most enjoyable this evening.

Any flop sweat yet?

cracked my first tallboy of the evening, ALRIGHTTT

It's on at 2am GMT so I assume that means 9pm EST

I have two bottles of "the dog" on hand

hmm all I have at home is a third of a bottle of Wild Turkey and no beer.

this could get ugly.

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it depends on how big the bottle is, Shakey

so this is 8pm CST? Shit. I'm gonna be at a WEDDING RECEPTION

i will check in from bar. lol.

they should suspend the wedding reception so you can handle the debate crisis

I'm not sure what kind of friend would schedule a wedding reception on a night like this.

who gets married on a Friday night?!?

the groom's british

ill be setting up stereo equipment at some house party :-/

I just got back from the off license and am about to watch dazed and confused, so I'm not sweating it.

they should suspend the wedding reception so you can handle the debate crisis

genuine lolz

i'm gonna watch this sober. i have a stomachache tonight, so it won't be pleasant either way.

is Fred Thompson participating?

I'm armed with nine Sierra Nevadas and a new box of microwave popcorn.

i'll be at william basinski. i'll ask him what he thinks

An e-mail:

Dear Kathryn,

... What do we have to do in order to get this across to the McCain campaign? Can you get ... all the rest of the “word warriors” and “talk titans” to hammer this point home over the next week? Gaffes, no worries, mate! The medias hate for her only solidifies my support. Bring ‘her on, she can’t be worse than Biden. She does not need to cram & prep, let her rip with what she knows. I’m not supporting her database like she’s some sort of Johnny Mnemonic, I am supporting her character & judgment. I want to see her duke it out with media and spin doctors.

Please, please hammer this home!

on the plus side, here at work I have ample supplies of wine

The Annual Wonkette Debate Drinking Game

Don't worry, folks, if you can't catch tonight's action appropriately sloshed, we got THREE more of these things to go thru.

(Presuming they don't try to pull some more chickenshit shenanigans, I guess)

yes, let palin rip. let her fall. i'll enjoy watching her flare out as the oxygen tears her body into fiery shreds upon reentry into the atmosphere

“word warriors” and “talk titans”

One of these was a movie with Harry Hamlin, right?

obama looks so miami vice with his blazer and sunglasses

Awww, I should've known you guys would have this thread. My 4-pack of Boddington's and bottle of red wine are my debate partners tonight.

I’m not supporting her database like she’s some sort of Johnny Mnemonic,

new meme

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Their force fields make it difficult for me to get any nearer.

lolllll

im just hoping this will be on npr cos my TV is too sick to pick up stations anymore..

I'm watching the debate with a friend whose wife is a kill-all-terrorists-dead Republican. We'll have a ball!

^^ it will, at least on my local npr it will

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You can always check the webfeeds.

Also, one of the local beer theaters has stepped in and will be showing the next three debates. good.

im just hoping this will be on npr cos my TV is too sick to pick up stations anymore..

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u can watch online too

where i don't have a tv

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I will confess that I think McCain could probably do a pretty good "Yippie-ki-yay, motherfucker" himself. He'd be better off doing Clint Eastwood though.

cbsnews.com has a visible "htdocs" directory?? really?

I found Obama's relation to his wife somehow - confident, engaging, likeable. I liked it partly because I felt it was part of a genuinely personal relationship in a way, not staged - though in public, to be sure, and knowing that people were watching. I liked the fact he asked her 'how we doing' or 'how you doing' when of course the relevant question was 'how did I do?' - there was something self-effacing about that.

I understand that of course he could not ask that. I am just reflecting on, responding to, the grace that I find that this remarkable man conveys.

"even his face is muscular...tankitytanktank tankitytanktank"

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8K5xpL2ZMU8

I'm glad the 2 minutes I saw included Bracelet vs Bracelet. What a fucking tragic circus.

by next week it will be accepted that Obama won this handily.

i'm just here to say that i drank 1 modelo, 2 pbr tall boys, 2 sam adams "octoberfest", and a pint glass and a half of wine (my host had no wine glasses), and we put a wig on a kitty cat.

also i'm going to a tea party with iran today.

I really appreciate cnn for claiming to be nonpartisan and than the post-debate chatter saying things like "tie/McCain slight win" but when they get into the details which obviously insinuate that Obama won.

It's like they are trying to gain back the Republican demographic, but are secretly pandering to the Obama fans (by giving Obama the big wins and McCain lots of small wins, etc...)

Cerebal, Thoracic, Muscular.

2 22oz steins of Mothership Wit, 2 or 3 steins of PBR.

And they wouldn't let me yell at the tv as loud as I wanted to at the bar.

my problem last night was I got too drunk too fast and got impatient and bored and my friends were talking over the TV and so I just shut it off and we watched "Fatal Desire" starring Eric Roberts and Anne Heche instead.

who won, Roberts or Heche?

glass of CA sauv blanc

a cerveza and two glasses of cheap cabernet.

im glad that my forecast of the popular reception of obama's performance-- too deferential, lots of points left on table-- was not shared.

i wish now that i had SEEN more of the debate. i probably heard 50% of it without video

anne heche won

It's 3 pm, I'm on my 3rd beer, I'm on part 4 of 11, and I just put Daft Punk on itunes in the background. I like how Obama keeps calling him John and not like Senator McCain or McClane or RIDDIIIICK!!!!.

Jim Lehrer's voice fills this perfect frequency that is never muddied or tread on by Daft Punk.

Yea, the shots where obama is talking directly across stage to mccain were v v good

Fox News uses camera angles and split screen so that you can't tell that Obama is talking at him across the stage, it looks like they're both always addressing JL.

Yea -- did different networks run different mixes?

I wish I could get a screen cap of that face lehrer made once when he couldn't get mccain to stop talking.

well i'd think that each network's producer would be calling the angles to the cameraman to best suit their agenda.

haha, I switched it to Switched On Bach just in time for Obama to start talking about killing Bin Laden.

somewhere between six and nine Jaegerbombs

nicka tell me you will youtube this lengthy feat of synchronization for us

3 Dale's Pale Ales, bottle of Stone's Arrogant Bastard Ale, 3/4 of a Pint of J&B Scotch. This is way more money than I normally spend on booze. All I have left for tonight are a few National Bohemian strays and the rest of that scotch. ;_;

anchor steam is the fuckin best

I watched it on CNN, and it was honestly pretty boring, both candidates saying stuff we already know, reinstating their points, McCain pissing me off with his "You don't understand" bullshit. I mean, that just sounded disrespectful to me. Far worse than Obama calling him "John" instead of "Senator McCain".

It was funny how after the debate everyone was saying "Oh yeah, there's no clear winner". Me and my dad watched the whole thing and pretty much agreed on that. I mean, even if you hate McCain you have to admit he held his ground here. And then the polls came in saying Obama had won and then I think it was Blitzer that said "Well, you know, once people start saying somebody won, then it picks up steam, and it becomes official" or something of that nature. That kind of upset me, him openly saying how manipulative the whole process is.

I liked listening to the first part on the radio over to my dad's place (he has a TV, i dont), it seemed more timeless and befitting a presidential debate. The CNN shot with the audience reaction thing was bizarre and really difficult to see..

Both candidates lose big-time in the economic policy part of the debate. My dad is pro-McCain and I was leaning toward Obama so whenever sparks would fly we found common ground on the fact that these two are gonna bail out wall street/are corporate whores anyways/we are all fucked/etc.

I mean, even if you hate McCain you have to admit he held his ground here.

he kept getting facts wrong, and came across as snide and nasty and impetuous. debates are partly about presenting your manner and personality and he lost here big time. people might think those things don't matter but who would you rather have making judgements and decisions?

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Haha, I was drunk for this, too -- I'd been doing wine tastings all afternoon and then had a 22 oz of Newcastle and 12 oz of PBR on top of it. Drinking game my girlfriend and I devised included swigs for "Main Street" from either candidate, "Look" from Obama, and "My friends" from McCain, which kept us going. Phrases we also would've drunk to had they had been mentioned: "President of the United States of America" (entire phrase) from Obama and "Vietnam" from McCain (I took a swig for "P.O.W.," anyway).

To be honest, my immediate reaction was that this was pretty much a draw but in a way that was ultimately better for Obama, inasmuch as he proved he could keep up and throw some punches on McCain's putative turf. I'm happy, however, to see Obama seems to have polled much better than that. I probably didn't register McCain's visual "mistakes" as being that significant because a) they seemed like par for the course with him (of course he's going to laugh sarcastically like that, the goon) and b) I was paying more attention to the verbal give-and-take. But on reflection, it seems like the viewers who aren't paying attention to every word -- which is to say most of them -- are going to draw a more favorable impression from Obama's demeanor than from McCain's.

man barack lets the first mention of earmarks pass without bringing up palin!! wtf??

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I know what you mean -- my girlfriend was shouting "Bridge to Nowhere, Bridge to Nowhere" at the TV -- but I think Obama is wise to lay off Palin and let the media do its job. Plus, earmarks don't have the same resonance for most Americans as "tax cut for the middle class" does.

i just really really don't get all the "this was really boring" comments here. on so many levels. first of all, because i didn't find it "boring" at all. second, because to the extent that it was "boring", i'd suggest that's to be expected, because it was the first debate, and obama was going to play it very cool and cautious. he's gotta pace himself and not reveal all his lines of attack at this point. plus of course he knows that if he revs up the heat too much in certain ways, he risks setting off all those "oh no black man angry" buttons. i'm fascinated by how obama maintains this delicate balance... assertiveness without rage... how he parries mccain's attacks, how he looks at the big picture and then lasers in on the key points. etc.

Should we keep this thread for the next debates, or make new ones? We got three more to go.

new ones, i say. keep it quick-loading.

Keep this for the other two Obama-McCain debates. But make a new thread for the inevitable clusterfuck of a Palin-Biden thread.

create a new thread to debate whether to start new threads or not.

Say, has any word been coming out about how Biden has been training? I mean, how the fuck do you prepare for this particular show?

same thread

It was funny how after the debate everyone was saying "Oh yeah, there's no clear winner". Me and my dad watched the whole thing and pretty much agreed on that. I mean, even if you hate McCain you have to admit he held his ground here. And then the polls came in saying Obama had won and then I think it was Blitzer that said "Well, you know, once people start saying somebody won, then it picks up steam, and it becomes official" or something of that nature. That kind of upset me, him openly saying how manipulative the whole process is.

I assumed the reason Obama "won" & went up in the polls is because all the undecided voters who still weren't sure abt Obama being "ready to lead" finally realized he is not as inexperienced as they thought -- I think he, way more than McCain, was the one who had to prove to ppl that he could hold his ground

yay!

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don't we have one of these debate threads already?

I was going to go on the cnn.com live feed for the debate preview but apparently they also have a live feed for "the white house goes pink"?? fuck the debates!

Presidential Election 2008 Debate 2 Rears Ugly Head, Pals Around With Lollorists

get with the program

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don't we have one of these debate threads already?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:48 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes, this one! get with the program guys! If the discussion thread can be 5000 posts then I don't see why we need a new one, as discussed above but whatevs.

I would like to point out that during the previous debate I was in no way dissing cc slaughters, for which I have much love

brokaw voice = more and more like charlie brown's teacher's voice