dude vs bruv vs amigo vs bro vs brudda vs dog vs holmes vs homey

im out the loop on salutations (

I saw so many dumb t-shirts for sale using the word "Bro" on them at the Ocean City, Maryland boardwalk last week.

examples?

"dude" wins for me but "homes" (not "holmes" though "holmes" makes me lol) is dear to my heart because it always makes me feel like I'm a kid in socal wondering why guys keep calling each other "holmes"

Geographically and generationally, I am very much a 'dude' dude when I don't simply call you 'sir'.

i love it when people call it "holmes"

My irl last name is Holm, and between the Sherlock thing and people calling me "holmes" like some kind of lol-cholo, I guess I just have no sense of humor left about that one.

Much like Michael White, I use "sir" in the formal and "dude" in the familiar. When I'm feeling a little fruity or baroque, I might extrapolate that out to "guy mann dude" or "dude man slick".

I think I probably say "dude" way too much irl.

guy mann dude

o_O

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Guy+Mann-Dude#t=Credits_All&q=&p=1

i know i say it way too much. it's one of those things that started out ironickkal and took on a life of its own. nowadays it's firmly ensconced in some wayward parasitical existence in my personal lexicon. dude.

http://www.sacredwaste.com/c/cool_story_bro_tshirt-p2359419980232839052w1hk_400.jpg

I haven't punched anyone who called me bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLhHtaVIO4

Is there a gender neutral alternative to "dude" or "bro"? I often slip into calling my female friends "dude" when i want to emphasize a point -- like "dude, you need to listen to this" -- but sometimes they make fun of me for this.

i like "buddy"

"Buddy" and "bud" sound condescending to me. I want a word that casually underscores camaraderie.

pal o' mine

wait, apparently 'pal' comes from the sanskrit 'bhrātṛ', meaning 'brother', so not gender neutral.

I feel like this is a real issue. Maybe not an important one, but still.

Pally?

m8

friendo

prob frienda in the feminine come to think

idk, dude in the right context can work? my two nieces, age 10 and 13, are amazing and very cool and they use dude regardless of who they are addressing

Yeah, m8 would be gr8 but it's such a uk expression.

I think the lack of a word like that says something about social conventions of friendship in the US, like platonic friends of the opposite gender are seen as rare here, or at least "complicated," at least according to the kinds of people who say "bro" or "dude" a lot. It shouldn't be this way.

my boss who is a woman uses "maaaan" all the time, i noticed i started doing it too

'Homeskillet', maybe? Give it a try.

mucker?

yeah if m8 is too uk-centric give mucker a shot

the usage notes on the wiktionary page for 'mucker' specifically says "Mucker, in the friendly senses, is used almost exclusively by a man to another man", but I don't see any reason why this should forever remain the case

I dont think my female friends are muckers though. They're chill. They're bros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_Q9CxXTo4

I call everyone 'dude'. I call my grandma 'dude'. It seems to work.

Yeah i will stick with that. But it seems problematic in the same way "all men are created equal" is.

bezzie

That only works for best friends

pal, man, guy, bud, coach, or the person's name

just call the lassies by their name, treezy

Coach is good lol

Using ppls names too much is too "how to win friends and influence people" for me

Dawg, or alternately appending their first initial. Taught to me as a way to address someone all-friendly-like when you can't remember their full name.

J-dawg, et al.

Acceptable female equivalents of dude: boo, bae, boo-boo, bae-bae, baby boo-boo, bae boo be-baw, mae-maw, hoo-ha, wee-wah, winklevoss.

"You guys!" and "dudes!" serve the same function, right, only a generation or two later?

Bae and boo are not the same at all. Those are gross/cutesy names for a romantic partner.

I'd usually just want to be called by my name. The supposedly gender-neutral use of most of these male-coded terms is weird for me personally as a trans woman because of the uncertainty about whether the person using "dude" or "man" is subtly misgendering me or is just being slangy. (I feel like there's a hierarchy here: "man" and being included in "guys" I can usually tolerate grudgingly, "dude" is dubious, but how dubious depends on context, "bro" is pretty much always offensive.) I do realize that I have to pick my battles over language politics, so I don't call this kind of thing out very much, though if I know the person well I'll just explain that I dislike being addressed that way.

Once i heard someone express frustration at the ubiquity of "you guys," like she felt it erased women, and that is one of the things thats made me rethink using dude in a gender neutral way

Sorry one way street - on my iphone and i didnt see you had posted

I usually just use "folks" for that reason.

Thanks for adding that btw. I definitely dont want to misgender people or perpetuate a male-centric perspective. If i were to use dude as a term of address for a woman it would just be mostly unconscious, out of habit, just bc i use it often with close friends. But maybe i should just get out of the habit, even if it would make me sound more formal idk

The issue is, folks is plural though

I only really hear "guys" and "you guys" in a workplace context, when we are being addressed as a group by a line manager, and it always sounds kind of irksome or passive-aggressive to me because of this. I did once have a manager who used to favour "guys and gals", this is probably now irrecoverably tainted by Jimmy Savile associations

like when a manager is trying to get a roomful of people to stop talking and pay attention: "ok, heads up you guuuuuuuyyys" etc

"Guys and gals" also involves this recognition of gender difference it contexts where that shouldnt be important

Acceptable female equivalents of dude: boo, bae, boo-boo, bae-bae, baby boo-boo, bae boo be-baw, mae-maw, hoo-ha, wee-wah, winklevoss.

― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:38 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you forgot fraulein

I like "folks" but I don't think it has the attention-grabbing immediacy or exclamatory aspects of "dudes!" yet, even tho it is still a somewhat percussive single syllable manner of address. "People!" grabs the attention, but "folks" is punchier tho lacking.

I unironically use "sister," but pretty much only with really close friends and other trans women.

Xp

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