― DV, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― N., Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Though they prefer to portray themselves as romantic revolutionaries I'd argue the narrow reactionary nationalism at the core of their ideology is, if not directly related, certainly comparible with the Front National.
― stevo, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
SF are a funny lot - you would think their nationalism and violent elements would send them to the far right, but their policies have a very cuddly element to them.
And whatever SF say, I'm not so sure about their core support being anyway liberal.
As it is I'll be voting for Fine Gael, you all know about my uncle etc. I'm almost tempted not to, because Nora Owen is the FG candidate in my constituency and she's a total muppet. But still, I can't not vote for Fine Gael, I'd feel too guilty.
― Ronan, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
What are the current predictions by the way?
― Pete, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
the illiberalism of SF's supporters v. the liberalism (or leftism, whatever) of SF's official positions is an interesting dialectic.
― Ed, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Guilty because of your family or guilty because of your political affiliations
Guilty because my uncle (Michael N*onan DV btw, not Garret as you'd be forgiven for thinking) has some chance of being prime minister and since I like him personally I feel I should try and make it happen. In fact after considerable thought I decided FG would get my vote as long as he was in charge. Afterwards.....different story perhaps.
I have always been baffled, or tickled, by post-war Eire's UNILATERAL redefinition of itself as The Republic, as if what had been agreed with England suddenly didn't matter.
One thing ILX has never discussed: Free Statists vs Republicans, Collins vs de Valera, compromise vs absolutism etc etc. I guess this is because its few Irish members would be more bored by such a discussion than its English ones.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Democratic Left merged with Labour a few years back.
The Eire thing... people here get really annoyed about it, I'm not entirely sure why. Our constitution begins "The name of the state is Eire, or in the English language Ireland". So there you go.
I think the Brits use Eire to differentiate free Ireland from the occupied six counties.
And there is no southern equivalent to the SDLP. SF are the only all- ireland party (apart from fringe groups like the Socialist Party, the Workers Party, and the Socialist Workers Party).
― DV, Friday, 26 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I am thinking of emigrating.
― DV, Saturday, 18 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ronan, Saturday, 18 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I bet the soldiers of destiny will now fuck the country up so badly that my life will be blighted for the next fifteen years. It's 1977 all over again.
What's up with Fine Gael? How did they become HALF as popular as FF? I don't get it.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 18 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
They lost 23 seats I think, despite their vote only dropping by 5 percent. So the problem is obviously that they got no transfers really. Labour did badly too and I bet they now regret not entering into a transfers deal with FG. Fact is, they were trying to be smart fuckers and hoped to get in with whoever did better out of FF or FG. They'll be kicking themselves now after winning one seat.
Looks like the PDs might be back in government with FF, what a nightmare.
― Ronan, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DV, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― N., Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ronan, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― , Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"No!" he would say, "They are NOT soldiers!".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/02/ireland
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 11:09 (eighteen years ago)
sadly I don't think we have a Le Pen figure waiting in the wings to pique everyone's interest - unless I take this as my cue to enter politics!
o_O
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:48 (eighteen years ago)
you'd vote for le pen, you closet righty you
― darraghmac, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 22:19 (eighteen years ago)
What does o_O mean? is it like you are a cyclops with your mouth wide open?
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:21 (eighteen years ago)
There's never a "What's That?" thread around when you need one.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:26 (eighteen years ago)