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Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)

How a candle works.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

Practically everything.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:20 (seventeen years ago)

that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character.

― ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:32 (seventeen years ago)

DO you have a Mac?

The best things about macs is that making any character is stupid easy.

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― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

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― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

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― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:11 (seventeen years ago)

That (most) BMWs are named according to engine size (I was a car freak as a child but never knew this until being informed by a German flatmate while I was a PhD student).

i.e. 318 = 3 series 1.8 litre engine etc.

― krakow, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:54 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't know that black and green olives are identical, just different stage of maturity, until a few months ago.

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago. Likewise Lipps Inc.

― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)

I've got a mac and I still don't know how to do any of, um, ^ those ^

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:01 (seventeen years ago)

I end up going to wikipedia and copy-and-pasting when I want unusual characters

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:02 (seventeen years ago)

The cows-and-bulls thing, plus Adam Ant, are the only things on this thread that I do know

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:03 (seventeen years ago)

how to cook an artichoke properly

― nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

(a julia child recipe steered me right)

― nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

How to tie my shoes (velcro, you see..)

― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:12 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago.

^^^ this. Same with Sandy Shaw.

― NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

Fay Fife of the Rezillos.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:35 (seventeen years ago)

(i.e. it's a pun on "I am from the town of Fife, my good fellow" in broad scots)

― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

What's the Adam Ant pun? Adam Ant = adamant? If so... pretty lame pun.

― Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:37 (seventeen years ago)

That's it.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Tell that to Lai Mpun, the lead singer of Bangkok's Phleng Chat.

― I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:45 (seventeen years ago)

I am 33 and didn't know any of these things. Wait - how the hell DOES a candle work?!

― Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

Same with Sandy Shaw.
OK I was 32 when I found out this was a pun.

― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:54 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know how to explain it but i used to think chickens had a really weird way of "mating", something to do with the rooster's legs. (!!?!?) :)

― Ludo, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

― I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

"that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character."

^^^Dude, you beat me by a month. Thanks!

I once spent a half hour trying to eject a cd from a Mac before someone finally told me there's an eject button on the keyboard. I was going through all these crazy menus and preferences...

― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

― filthy dylan, Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


I did not know that oxen were cattle until about a week ago.

― With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

loooool one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory.

I think I've done that Mac eject button thing too :(

Pronounced lapels like 'labels' for years until corrected but happily don't dress well enough to use it often

― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

My girlfriend was shocked to learn, at the age of 33, that a 'Flea Circus' is actually a rather charming mechanical toy, and is in no way operated by any parasitic insects.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

Ismael, at the age of 32, is shocked to learn the same thing. This thread is getting embarrassing

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

WAT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_circus

― Øystein, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory

no but seriously, what is this about?

― negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

i mean i can see that there's rarely anything to size them against in the big white antarctic, but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

― negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

u could still play tag w/it tho

― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

But you could make the same assumption with ostriches in the big yellow desert (or wherever they live), and in that case you'd be right!

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

aw no-one said 'where babies come from'

― Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

I've had a lot of experiences in my adult life with mispronouncing words I understood as part of written text, but hadn't heard aurally in the context of conversation etc. For example, I was well into my twenties before I knew the word "vehement" wasn't pronounced veh-hee-ment. I wish others would politely correct you when you do that instead of letting you blindly sound like an idiot.

― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a bit like that, but now I'm in the habit of saying works incorrectly, I can't get out of it. Canal is not pronounced can-el, but there's fuck all I can do about it now.

― NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

^ This happens to me all the time too - so much so that I actually now find it quite amusing when I realise, midway through a sentence, that a word I've never heard before is looming at the end. I suppose that people who talk a lot, rather than reading, must find the same with spelling. It only annoys me when some moron uses it as an opportunity to score cheap points (sadly fairly often)

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

I was going to start a thread like this, but it was going to be more about 'life lessons' that took you forever to learn, rather than trivia.

Anyway it's taken me this long to fully realize how unreliable first impressions can be when it comes to people.

― invisible jet (wanko ergo sum), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

haha

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

TAL have an episode on this in the "best of" section on their wesite. people who thought unicorns were real, etc., lots of awkward silences at cocktail parties: good stuff.

― rent, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

i like to tag birds. (runs)

― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

There's a penguin here and he wants to say "you didn't touch me ner ner ner"

― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins went "weh weh weh"

― ╓abies, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you couldnt get me in the same room as a ouija board

― a country packed with ponies (sunny successor), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

I was about 35 when I figured out Open Sesame = Open Says Me.

― Rotgutt, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

i used to think HAZCHEM was a foreign word for danger like Achtung

― Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

I just figured out, like 2 days ago, that the lyrics are "highway to the danger zone"

(until then, thought they were "I went to to the danger zone")

― homosexual II, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

... which is called Gênes in French.

― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 October 2026 14:59 (one month ago)

Tangent spinning off from Geneva/Genoa/Gênes:

We also get the word "gin" from Geneva > jenever.

Jenever and juniper are related by the words' obvious similarity, not descent or derivation.

Ginevra de Benci, the Leonardo portrait in Washington, had juniper as her emblem.

Ginevra, of course, is related to Guinevere and eventually Jennifer.

So if (like me) you know a Jen who likes gin, she is merely obeying the logic of language.

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 October 2026 17:37 (one month ago)

"Jenever and juniper are related by the words' obvious similarity, not descent or derivation."

She rides a dappled mare.

― Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 8 October 2026 18:51 (one month ago)

Yall got me down the jeans rabbithole and I arrived at the 17th c. Master of the Blue Jeans - the floppy hat/demin jacket/hand pie pose didn't start on instagram in 2018, more like 1680

https://kunstfinder.com/kunstwerk/master-of-the-blue-jeans-a-beggar-boy-with-a-piece-of-pie-24866/

― bendy, Thursday, 8 October 2026 19:17 (one month ago)

one for the anachronistic art thread perhaps

― koogs, Thursday, 8 October 2026 19:22 (one month ago)

makes me wanna write a poem in a letter. the worst poem of all my poems.

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Thursday, 8 October 2026 21:14 (one month ago)

shop the look

vintage patchwork denim jacket - £380
pie - £12 (whole)

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 October 2026 21:42 (one month ago)

The inhabitants have a sacred book called (as I remember it) The Book of the Machines that chronicles an earlier age where the people had become enslaved to machines (think: Industrial Revolution), leading to a revolt (think: Luddites) and the perpetual outlawing of machinery.

This sounds a wee bit like at least part of the plot of A Canticle for Leibowitz. I've not heard of this book! And yet I keep seeing the word "erewhon" a lot lately is it some crappy AI company now?

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 9 October 2026 00:47 (one month ago)

And yet I keep seeing the word "erewhon" a lot lately is it some crappy AI company now?

It's a very expensive (and somewhat cultlike as I understand it) L.A. grocery store.

― wipes chooser (unperson), Friday, 9 October 2026 00:49 (one month ago)

"plangent" does not mean "plaintive". who'd'a thunk it?

― massaman gai (front tea for two), Thursday, October 8, 2026 3:05 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

must be something in the air: I misused this word just last week and was corrected. I've gone almost half a century thinking plangent meant something pleasant, similar to 'dulcet.' Turns out it doesn't mean that at all

― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 10 October 2026 01:02 (four weeks ago)

it ofc means a member of the royal house that originated in anjou

the middle of all words are unnecessary details at best and outright lies at worst

― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 October 2026 07:22 (four weeks ago)

Plantagenet from planta genista.

Genista means broom, and broom is the English word for that plant.

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 October 2026 12:55 (four weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcJg6mYxw88

― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2026 13:18 (four weeks ago)

The brake lights on Mini Coopers form the Union Jack.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 October 2026 18:02 (four weeks ago)

really fucking hate those stupid lights

― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 October 2026 18:14 (four weeks ago)

language and tailights
Are both just assigned systems
while chuds kill us all

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 October 2026 18:23 (four weeks ago)

I plan to fight back by ignoring all taillights.

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 10 October 2026 18:32 (four weeks ago)

i’ma floor it baby

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 October 2026 18:34 (four weeks ago)

I only just made the connection with wieners and Vienna aka Wien. I thought it was just a silly name for a hotdog sausage!

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 11 October 2026 00:54 (four weeks ago)

Ich bin ein Wiener

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 11 October 2026 01:33 (four weeks ago)

danishes? in denmark called weierbrød

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Sunday, 11 October 2026 02:27 (four weeks ago)

wienerbrød that is

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Sunday, 11 October 2026 02:28 (four weeks ago)

The chequered pattern on police cars, ambulances etc is known as a Battenberg marking.

Just had a piece of the namesake cake, very tasty.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, 12 October 2026 10:46 (four weeks ago)

... also that Battenberg cake is English, not German.

― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Monday, 12 October 2026 11:05 (four weeks ago)

So it should consider changing its name to Mountbatten?

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 October 2026 11:14 (four weeks ago)

Nah, unlike the British royal family it isn't German.

― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Monday, 12 October 2026 11:19 (four weeks ago)

filmmaker Todd Field invented Big League Chew bubblegum, as a child, together with a minor league baseball player while working as a batboy for the team.

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 14 October 2026 18:15 (three weeks ago)

gateway drug

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 October 2026 18:21 (three weeks ago)

(there's a corner store not far from me that still sells candy cigarettes... I think they're made in Macedonia)

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 October 2026 18:22 (three weeks ago)

low TÁR I hope

― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 14 October 2026 18:41 (three weeks ago)

Military sexual trauma (MST) is considered a significant public health issue and subject of research due to its prevalence and severe health consequences.

― mick signals, Thursday, 15 October 2026 23:10 (three weeks ago)

Is it here we were talking about the origins of fabric terms, often based on their presumed geographic origin?

That got me thinking about cambric / chambray and whether they might have something to do with Wales (Cambria).

No. Cambrai, in France, provides both cambric and chambray. One via Dutch and one via American English.

Cambria descends from Cymru, Latinized. Cambridge, as you lot will know, is unrelated.

You all probably know that Panama hats didn't come from Panama.

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 October 2026 23:45 (three weeks ago)

do bermuda shorts come from Bermuda?

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 October 2026 00:17 (three weeks ago)

yes

― trm (tombotomod), Friday, 16 October 2026 00:45 (three weeks ago)

Shortly

― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 October 2026 00:51 (three weeks ago)

two weeks pass...

the original pun title for Bowie's Aladdin Sane

― My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Saturday, 31 October 2026 22:09 (one week ago)

Georgia Governor-elect Keisha Lance Bottoms is the daughter of R&B singer Major Lance.

― insufficiently festive (WmC), Friday, 6 November 2026 03:53 (three days ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 6 November 2026 15:12 (three days ago)

that explains that someone here was saying they were listening to Major Lance all night

― Zeppelin Avenue Breakdown (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 6 November 2026 16:55 (three days ago)

Zohran Mamdani's mother is director Mira Nair

― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 7 November 2026 16:02 (two days ago)

Hahah welcome.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 7 November 2026 16:49 (two days ago)


Jenever and juniper are related by the words' obvious similarity, not descent or derivation.

I just saw this from a few weeks ago but I don't think that's right? I've always read that gin/jenever derive etymologically directly from juniperus, and that's what online references I can find right now also say. Is there another source I'm missing?

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 November 2026 16:59 (two days ago)

I forget why I thought that, honestly. Gin is English from Dutch jenever, which is from French and therefore ultimately Latin.

Maybe I just meant that when English drunkards sold their last child for gin, they weren't thinking "wow this sure tastes like juniper berries," drawing on their sophisticated knowledge of botany.

They were just shortening the name of the "jenever spirits" the tavern mistress was selling.

― Menty Spice (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 7 November 2026 19:07 (two days ago)

they both seem to come from here

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iuniperus#Latin

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 7 November 2026 20:05 (two days ago)

I thought the name of that Call her Daddy podcast meant someone should call this woman's daddy for some reason. It did not occur to me until today that she wanted to be called Daddy.

(disclaimer: I have never once listened to this podcast and know nothing about it and don't want to)

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 7 November 2026 22:53 (two days ago)

this is wise

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 7 November 2026 23:05 (two days ago)

also my initial take like 2024

― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Sunday, 8 November 2026 02:04 (yesterday)

"Let's call it Call Her Daddy"
"But what if people think it means you should call this woman's daddy for some reason?"
"We could call it Call Her 'Daddy' and then it would be clear"
"But what if someone thinks that means the scare quotes are are calling into question his paternity?"
"We could call it Address Her As Daddy"
"Let's just call it Call Her Daddy"

― Alba, Sunday, 8 November 2026 08:45 (yesterday)

After decades of wondering I finally found out who the guitar man was in the La Isla Bonita video. May he RIP. His name was Marcos Loya.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 November 2026 16:00 (yesterday)

He died April of this year. The last time I searched for him it was at least 5 years ago probably more. I should xp to obits thread :-/

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 9 November 2026 01:12 (eight hours ago)


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