'evocative' music

Also, for the record: Boards of Canada/Max Tundra/Pram = not my childhood. Does music that is made to be 'evocative' merely remind you of other 'evocative' music ans how you are supposed to feel e.g. Industrial music just reminds me of other industrial music? Is there any music that you don't find 'evocative'?

Also: 'cinematic'. Does this just mean original soundtrack music or has it more specific qualities?

hmmmm, this is a tricky one. as my response to music, and indeed probably everyone's, is an utterly subjective and personal thing and unless i've shared a certain musical experience with someone i never seem to agree on what it evokes/is supposed to evoke. i remember RickyT being ASTOUNDED that i'd never picked up on any childhood references in Boards of Canada and, while it's obvious that they're there in as it were the mechanics of the music - the voice samples, the photography - it just never made me THINK of or remember childhood. it made me chilled out, spacey, sometimes even aweful, but i never thought "ooh, childhood!" i very rarely receive "images" or set ideas of certain times from music, instead music evokes emotions or intellectual ideas or even both for me (as the 2 overlap). f'r example last night i saw Freeheat and felt unreasoning JOY. at the mo i'm listening to Satie and feeling calm and reflective and a touch wistful. the Survivor/Skeelo bootleg inspires joy because it is so clever and so funky at the same time... oh i dunno. i'd be crap at making a film soundtrack eh?

Reaction to music is dependent on a wide variety of variables. How often have you heard a record that taste tells you to dislike but circumstances dictate otherwise? It's a matter of context half the time. At the moment it's Yo la Tengo, the sun is streaming through the windows and all's right with the world.

what katie said about BoC. All music has an effect on me, not sure that it would be useful to describe that effect as an evocation of something though.

Some music only becomes evocative by association. Tainted Love and Ghost Town are evocative of a particular summer of my childhood - though this is nothing to do with the actual songs themselves and everything to do with the context in which I view them. Music which is evocative of other music is a pretty lousy idea generally, because ot may make you want to hear the music it evoked (because it may be better).

Cinematic is usually used as a comparison with the grand movie scores - which means big use of orchestration, surround sound and strong themes. I aleways think it particularly refers to the great Western scores, though I think John Williams and John Barry have a good claim in defining whatis genrally called cinematic. (Orchestral music which requires a context?)

Cinematic generally means cellos playing right at the bottom of the octave for that "wooh, something's happening" effect

Are John Carpenters blipscapes uncinematic?

Any music or record which conjures up a "story" (or backstory) in my mind I would describe as cinematic.

Joh Carpenter's use an electronic version of that deep cello note so no.

Maybe we should distinguish cinematic and soundtrack. Soundtrack music is often unsubstantial by itself without the pictures it is supposed to enhance.

EVO

Brian Evo, that is.